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July 25, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
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My Fellow Europeans

Indians and Chinese are telling me that they make better products and offer better services then us ... Grin

What do you say to them ?

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July 26, 2020, 12:14:36 AM
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I'm not from Europe, I am an Asian. But, I am not infavor with China nor India.
And definitely, I am not infavor with war. Its not the solution of the problem right now.
And we are not the enemy of each other. The Virus is our invisible enemy that we need to fight with. We need to set aside the self interests or the other country's interests. What matters now is to find the Cure for Covid-19 and save the lives of the people in the world. Peace be with you and your whole country ✌Stay safe 💕
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July 26, 2020, 03:03:13 AM
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I am neither from Europe nor am I very familiar with Europe products' quality but I am 100% sure that in this kind of war China will lose and lose miserably. I would even go as far as to claim that my country's local products can match in terms of quality against China products.

For quite a while, China products are almost equated with mass-produced, substandard, disposable, cheap, easy to break, and even dangerous to use due to certain chemical components.

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July 26, 2020, 06:15:39 AM
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My Fellow Europeans

Indians and Chinese are telling me that they make better products and offer better services then us ... Grin

Economies are not generally segregated like that. Products made in India/China by Indian/Chinese workers are often produced by and to specifications designed by European or US companies. I don't see the point in trying to create tension between different parts of the world. It's just xenophobia and jingoism. Western products are often made in China because it is cheaper to do so. Economies of scale make transport cheap on those vast container ships. If you want the exact same product to be produced in Europe, it will cost more but for the same quality.






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July 26, 2020, 06:20:56 AM
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There are nothing worse in the world than indian guys code
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July 26, 2020, 02:35:08 PM
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Indians and Chinese are telling me that they make better products and offer better services then us ... Grin
Everything is made from China, and we can accept that fact, but if were talking about quality. I dont think they could match up with Europe at all. Even though, Im not from that Country, I have cousin working there and everytime he comes back in our country, he always bought us quality products.

China thinks they could somehow dominate the market, well for the Indian case, Im neutral about them but they arent comparable to Europe yet. But I love their Indian food their special curry spicy ones.

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July 26, 2020, 02:56:47 PM
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I'm neither from both countries but is this a good idea that starting a war I think no but before we give my opinion. Stating a war does have a full of agreement what are the dos and don't and restriction to their war also who are the country accepts this agreement like who agree and disagree with those war for the countries. Okay, now back to my opinion I think this is not a good idea because right now we have this pandemic outbreak and some of the people and those are countries involve to the war right now are not a fully recovered to this spreading virus there are a lot of people right now are infected and healing their selves with the use of facilities and I think this is chaos when this will happen.

China is one of the populated countries and India and I think they cannot bring war with Europe because those are in third world countries which is the largest and richest country right now even we are facing this problem.

Indians and Chinese are telling me that they make better products and offer better services then us ... Grin
Everything is made from China, and we can accept that fact, but if were talking about quality. I dont think they could match up with Europe at all. Even though, Im not from that Country, I have cousin working there and everytime he comes back in our country, he always bought us quality products.

China thinks they could somehow dominate the market, well for the Indian case, Im neutral about them but they arent comparable to Europe yet. But I love their Indian food their special curry spicy ones.

China are good for duplicating the products and using other materials and release to the marker with the low price and this is one of the reason why china known for this kind of process.

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July 26, 2020, 03:08:10 PM
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Indians and Chinese are telling me that they make better products and offer better services then us ... Grin

No one can make everything better then everyone else. Usually only one is the best. Like Luka Dončič is best basketball player. But he is not also best soccer player. HE is good soccer player. HE is good at any sport, because he is a sport talent but he is simply not the best soccer player on the world. It is almost impossible to be best in few different sports. So as it totally impossible to be a country that produce all products best.
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July 26, 2020, 03:19:17 PM
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Well if you notice what brand of cars we use today are mostly from Asia. Suzuki cars are made in India. It may be owned by Japan but its created in India. And of course, where else do they assemble and make cars today but in China. In the list are Toyota, Honda, Ford, Nissan, Hyundai, and Mercedes.

You can check it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production

No need for war in this.


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July 26, 2020, 03:41:10 PM
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Well if you notice what brand of cars we use today are mostly from Asia. Suzuki cars are made in India. It may be owned by Japan but its created in India. And of course, where else do they assemble and make cars today but in China. In the list are Toyota, Honda, Ford, Nissan, Hyundai, and Mercedes.

You can check it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production

No need for war in this.



Are you kidding with suzuki .... ? Are you comparing does junk cars with european cars ? ....  Grin you should really do a google search on european cars...

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July 26, 2020, 03:42:38 PM
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 Grin Grin Grin

I've never used a European goods before except a language imported by them; so I'm going with the Indians and the Chinese because I'm more familiar with their goods and services.

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July 26, 2020, 03:43:47 PM
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Well if you notice what brand of cars we use today are mostly from Asia. Suzuki cars are made in India. It may be owned by Japan but its created in India. And of course, where else do they assemble and make cars today but in China. In the list are Toyota, Honda, Ford, Nissan, Hyundai, and Mercedes.

You can check it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production

No need for war in this.



Are you kidding with suzuki .... ? Are you comparing does junk cars with european cars ? ....  Grin you should really do a google search on european cars...

Grin

You could have mentioned Mercedes company he'd keep shut.

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July 26, 2020, 03:44:52 PM
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Everything is made from China, and we can accept that fact,

No, they are not and we should not accept a fact that is based on nothing and that is actually false.
A good example is this:
https://www.lifewire.com/where-is-the-iphone-made-1999503
A lot of things are not actually made in China but just assembled there.

Second and more important, if everything is made in China
- the US and the EU have an almost 30 trillion economy
- China exports just 1 trillion to these countries
Where is the rest?

If everything is made in China, why do they import 100 billion of equipment, machines, vehicles and electronics from Germany alone?
If China exports 2.2 trillion in the world and everything is "made in China" what happens with the 1.4 exported by Germany?

Well if you notice what brand of cars we use today are mostly from Asia.  
You can check it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production

What I actually notice from that table is that
Asia     has:     49,261,267  vehicles
Europe has:     21,130,694  vehicles

Taking into account that Europe has 1/7 the population I think we're doing pretty good, right?
Contrary to the myth that "everything" is made in China.


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July 26, 2020, 03:49:22 PM
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Well if you notice what brand of cars we use today are mostly from Asia. Suzuki cars are made in India. It may be owned by Japan but its created in India. And of course, where else do they assemble and make cars today but in China. In the list are Toyota, Honda, Ford, Nissan, Hyundai, and Mercedes.

You can check it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production

No need for war in this.



Are you kidding with suzuki .... ? Are you comparing does junk cars with european cars ? ....  Grin you should really do a google search on european cars...

Grin

You could have mentioned Mercedes company he'd keep shut.

Ferrari,Bugatti,Lamborghini,Maserati,Renault,Skoda,Opel,Seat,VW,Audi,Dacia,Maybach,Citroen...and many others and GHE-O

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July 26, 2020, 03:59:47 PM
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Are you kidding with suzuki .... ? Are you comparing does junk cars with european cars ? ....  Grin you should really do a google search on european cars...
You're true AFAIK most of Indian cars doesn't have airbags, it's pretty dangerous IMO. In a simple accident, it will make a lot injuries or even death!

While in european cars they have airbags as a standard, to make it more safety to ride.


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July 26, 2020, 04:07:00 PM
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Are you kidding with suzuki .... ? Are you comparing does junk cars with european cars ? ....  Grin you should really do a google search on european cars...
You're true AFAIK most of Indian cars doesn't have airbags, it's pretty dangerous IMO. In a simple accident, it will make a lot injuries or even death!

While in european cars they have airbags as a standard, to make it more safety to ride.



in Europe kind of all is made by Standard ... if someone sells Chinese toys in my country all i got to do is report him ... then they make lab tests and they will find out that Chinese used carcinogenic plastic ... his biz will be closed and get a fine ...

You can't even burn the EU flag if your british do to EU standards  Grin

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July 26, 2020, 04:15:09 PM
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Grin Grin Grin

I've never used a European goods before except a language imported by them; so I'm going with the Indians and the Chinese because I'm more familiar with their goods and services.
Honestly, the Indian and China products cant matchup with the European products in terms of quality. Besides, the reason why China and India seem to gain more the affection of companies and group is because of their tax level which is not as huge as the EU.

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Honestly, the Indian and China products cant matchup with the European products in terms of quality. Besides, the reason why China and India seem to gain more the affection of companies and group is because of their tax level which is not as huge as the EU.

Honestly if we are to go by the standard of goods and services rendered by the aforementioned counties against their European counterparts, the European goods and services will definitely outperform theirs. We can see how most part of Asia and Africa are still living abject poverty. They can only afford substandard goods and it is only Indians and Chinese engineers that are ready to manufacture those type of goods to meet their demands and wants.



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July 26, 2020, 04:33:33 PM
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i don't know about India but the thing about Chinese is that they have been aiming to maximize their target customers as much as possible. that means they are producing as many product as possible with as big a range of quality as they can.

it is from top quality hence higher price targeting customers demanding higher quality and have the money to pay for it. which are usually from developed countries.
down to low quality crap hence the lower price targeting customers that don't have the money for it, which are usually from under-developed countries.

this also includes producing parts to complete products and making all other countries including developed countries heavily depend on them.

that is how they are overtaking the world.
the "war" is already lost, the rest of the world just hasn't realized it yet Grin

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July 26, 2020, 04:41:29 PM
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Indians and Chinese are telling me that they make better products and offer better services then us ... Grin

They can say that because they both have the largest population here in the world and their labor is much stronger than other country. Being a 1st and 2nd with largest population will surely take advantage of their labor to produce and make a lot product, and that's the reason why their economy is strong.

For quite a while, China products are almost equated with mass-produced, substandard, disposable, cheap, easy to break, and even dangerous to use due to certain chemical components.

That's the only thing that they lack although they have a lot of manufacturers but the quality is not that guaranteed. Most of the materials that they used in their products are very poor quality but they are affordable that's why the demand is high.
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