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December 25, 2020, 03:27:34 PM
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I don't think that advice will solve the problem because perhaps you would also suggest that the gambling discussion board should also be removed for signature campaign. Some things that might be improved is the awareness of users to continue reporting every spam post to the moderator by pressing the report to moderator button in the right corner of each post. This will have a huge impact on the forum as most contributors have been doing it for a long time. The rules can still be tightened and that may be the solution for now.

If the spam posts that are there are deleted in an extreme way every day or week then I believe the activity of the spammers will be narrower and they will find a solution not to be deleted. I hope this way many of them will change their minds because without quality post they will not complete their weekly qouta. I've seen the effectiveness of the idea having a positive effect on local board, and it has decreased the number of spam posts there. So just report it to the moderators and it will be a good thing.

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December 25, 2020, 03:39:12 PM
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The request was probably made with the sincere intention to save the Altcoins section. tk808 looks like a huge supporter of altcoins not named XRP hehe. Kidding aside, it's also a matter of personal interest. tk808 wants to remove the garbage from the section he likes but the others are also concerned that those trash will be thrown to the sections they often visit. It's like saying "keep your own garbage".

How about a proposal to remove altcoin paying signature campaigns? or campaign that pays in tokens?
They can launch their campaigns in social media platforms anyway.
Will that help reduce spam? I believe so.
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December 25, 2020, 04:28:06 PM
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instead of erasing the problem the attempts should be to first fix it then if it weren't fixed we can look for more drastic measures. first start by warning any signature campaign that has the most number of spammers then ban those signature campaigns (like what happened to Yobit spam campaign!). this way the job of cleaning up the forum is outsourced to the source of the problem which is the campaigns that are paying them in first place to spam. when the campaign managers start not paying for spam posts or even kick those spammers out those boards clean up automatically and not just that, the quality of the posts will improve too since everyone has to post higher quality posts to get paid so they make an effort.

if the signature were removed from those boards, the spammers would simply infest other places.

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December 25, 2020, 07:00:09 PM
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How about a proposal to remove altcoin paying signature campaigns? or campaign that pays in tokens?
They can launch their campaigns in social media platforms anyway.
Will that help reduce spam? I believe so.
This can be the best solution but its unlikely to be implemented because its kind of biased decision which is against the freedom what provided in Bitcointalk. Removing signature from altcoins section also going to increase the spams on other section as others mentioned. So the best possible solution is to implement strict guidelines for bounty campaign like having a maximum cap of participants for signature campaign is mandatory.

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December 25, 2020, 07:14:32 PM
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It will eventually send a message like removing signature in the forum.
It won't be good for the companies trying to get their clients thru the forum traffic. Bitcoin or cryptocurrency hasn't yet gone to mainstream yet where there will be a platform to advertise, this forum serves as one and should remain to be the top one.

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December 25, 2020, 07:34:31 PM
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Break incentivized posting on altcoin sections. Break the mass spam of the puppet masters.

that section is no different from the Bitcoin Discussion, Speculation, Trading Discussion section... if you remove signatures in that section then you would have to remove them in other sections as well. if you think something is spam just report the post and the problem is solved.


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December 26, 2020, 04:46:45 AM
Last edit: December 26, 2020, 05:00:22 AM by tranthidung
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What percentage of the Altcoin Discussion board is filled with useless, generic content and equally useless one-liner spam?
Lengthy posts don't equal to non-spam posts. Sometimes such posts can disguise us at first glance as they are lengthy and the undeniable fact is posters spend more time for such posts. But it does not mean lengthy posts are quality.

I don't have data for merits over boards but the Ninjastic.space sheds a light that how spammy the altcoin boards are.

The last solution as theymos cares about is shut down the signature as he spent some attempts to clean the forum and force members to contribute with better contributions.
  • Welcome message
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  • Enhanced merit system (demotion on old-era Jr. members without 1-earned merit)
  • Bump score

Merited posts don't equal to good posts in all cases but let's look at the raw stats for it from Merit Dashboard (built by DdmrDdmr).
  • Merit Dashboard for Sections/ Sub-sections
  • Total % of received merits in all Altcoin-related boards are 10.68%
  • But 50.6% of those received merits belong to the sub-board "Announcements (Altcoins)"
  • There are abuse or misuse of merit in Announcements (Altcoins) but somewhat the stats show the rest sub-boards for Altcoins don't have good quality.

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February 07, 2021, 10:09:34 PM
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I fully agree especially in the ETH threads there seem to be a lot of people copy/pasting the same text spinned replies for their sig campaigns. It would be nice to at least have a altcoin discussion forum where no sigs are shown (i know you can turn them off, but so the posts get better.)

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February 08, 2021, 01:34:57 AM
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The problem is and continues to be the fact that there are users that do not understand how thread bumping works in the altcoin section:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.0
So, there are signature spammers, and spammers in general just infesting it.
And the people who are just posting to get their token signatures out there.

As I have said before if the entire altcoin section (Which I do use) went away tomorrow I would not miss it that much.
Many others feel the same way.

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February 08, 2021, 12:36:01 PM
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I fully agree especially in the ETH threads there seem to be a lot of people copy/pasting the same text spinned replies for their sig campaigns. It would be nice to at least have a altcoin discussion forum where no sigs are shown (i know you can turn them off, but so the posts get better.)
I don't think that will happen. Admins don't focus that much on the altcoin boards because this is a bitcoin forum. Quality discussions take place outside of the altcoin boards. I am sure there are good posters who would like to discuss altcoins in a rule-abiding and professional manner, but they are the minority.

I would suggest to everyone who creates threads there and doesn't want shitposters to lay their eggs, to create self-moderated threads and delete whatever posts they deem unworthy. Self-moderated threads are also an instant turn-off for spammers because they know here is a guy who pays attention to what is happening in his topics.  

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February 08, 2021, 03:38:03 PM
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I would suggest to everyone who creates threads there and doesn't want shitposters to lay their eggs, to create self-moderated threads and delete whatever posts they deem unworthy. Self-moderated threads are also an instant turn-off for spammers because they know here is a guy who pays attention to what is happening in his topics.
This is polishing a turd. Self-moderated threads don't just turn of spammers, but also people who don't want to see posts deleted at a random user's discretion.

True altcoin section users should be reporting the constant spam that come from users and they should also avoid participating in all of those meaningless megathreads. You can immediately identify them by title, which is usually why spammers only respond to the title without reading anything else.

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February 08, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
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Break incentivized posting on altcoin sections. Break the mass spam of the puppet masters.
I don't understand why some people have problem with signature campaigns. While spam is bad, signature campaigns have helped keep this forum active.
Many new adopters have kept long association with cryptos because of signature campaign.



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