[Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23

[Baofeng]

It's interesting to know though that Robson could have gotten his full purse here if he refuses to fight Shakur because he is over the limit of 130 lbs. However, he decided to push with the fight and negotiate to get at least $50k more for Shakur not making the weight.

So it's good that he didn't take the easy route, easy money for him not taking the fight and then he will still have the chance as he is rated both number 2 by WBC and WBO, the belt being on the line here.

https://www.boxingscene.com/conceicao-ve-received-full-purse-he-decided-not-fight-overweight-stevenson--169250

[lionheart78]

It is very disappointing to see a great boxer stripped of the title belt by scale.  Well, it is the boxer's camp fault, probably their camp is too relaxed to notice and maintain the weight of Shakur.  It is now interesting to see whether Conceicao will outperform the scale and beat Stevenson on their coming fight.

Too bad, Shakur won't be defending his belt anymore because he cannot meet the required weight, he exceeded almost 2 pounds with only few hours left from the weigh-in. Now, there's no holding him up from moving towards the lightweight division where there's money in almost every fight especially now that there's a lot of known good boxers in one stable.

I just really hope that he won't be greedy enough to get Davis in his first fight, I mean, I know Shakur can manage but his chances against Tank Davis is literally low especially now that he is not used fighting in 135 lbs. yet. It might be best for him to fight Garcia first, I'm quite sure that money will rain even in that fight.

Yeah, it is a shame that Shakur lost his belt against the scale, lol.  So it is a no-bearing fight for Stevenson but a unification fight for Conceical if he wins the fight.  It would be intersting to see if Stevenson moves in the upper division because it is where lots of great boxer are packed in.

I think he made the right decision not to force his body in the second weigh in and try to meet the required weight as it could be disastrous to him.

I believe he wanted to force it but his body weight cannot lose any more weight and meet the required weight limit. 

“Once you sitting in the tub and you see .4, and you’ve a whole pound left, you know right there that you can’t get to that weight,” said Shakur Stevenson to ESPN about his efforts to make weight for Thursday’s weigh-in.
“I spoke to my grandfather; I spoke to James Prince and Antonio Leonard. Everyone agreed with me. I told them, ‘I don’t think I can get to this weight. I put everything in my power.’

“They were right there with me for some of it, so they actually got to see the weight cut process. They agreed with me and told me that I shouldn’t put my health at risk trying to do something that really can’t be done.

“I know I did everything in my power to try and get to the weight. I just couldn’t. There’s nothing else,” said Shakur when asked if there was anything else he could have done to make weight. “When your body won’t create no sweat.

“That’s how you’re going to lose weight with the water that comes out of you. That, I worked out. There was nothing else I could have done. I ran, I worked out, and I got in the hot tub. I done so many different things in trying to make weight. My life is more important,” said Shakur.

This is kinda heartbreaking when he did all his best and yet can't get into the desired weight. 

[robelneo]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

[bisdak40]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

[peter0425]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

There is a too much favor in scoring towards Shakur and indeed he showed great in this fight , going up to higher division will bring His career a chance to  change His image , but going now? while there are bigger name and best fighter in line? maybe this will bring him more challenge and risk of losing.
but being a boxer will give this a chance of a lifetime as he is not getting any younger and those 3 mentioned names are also in that same age bracket.
But congratulations to Shakur he really owe this fight.

[Baofeng]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

Yes, mate it was a dominating win by Shakur, but he can't knockout Robson, although he score a body shot knock down. This version of him might not be enough for elite of 135 lbs. So yes, he will need to have a tune up fight first and see and feel the power of a true lightweight.

I'm thinking that Davis and Loma might just toy with him and he will be pot shot by Loma all day long. While Davis might be looking for a knock out if they fight.

[Yaunfitda]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

Basing from the scores, (I haven't seen the match yet), it seems that Robson was really outclassed by Shakur in this fight although there is no knockout win for him.

Yes, this division is weak I might say, but the next one, it will be a very competitive weight class for him. As you have said, it's loaded with the likes of Haney, Davis, Loma, Garcia and George Kambosos. And I think if ever he fought any one of them, Shakur might experience his first lost.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

And this win proved once again that Shakur is the best 130 lbs despite not unify the belts. But he holds the belt of WBC and WBO, two organizations that has the 'weight' as far as boxing goes. And since he can't make the weight limit and he says that this will be his last one and it was just fitting that he won against a tough and game Robson. So it's time for them to mix up and get the belt that Stevenson has vacated and so it open up another opportunity for Robson even if he lost this fight.

[Pamadar]

And this win proved once again that Shakur is the best 130 lbs despite not unify the belts. But he holds the belt of WBC and WBO, two organizations that has the 'weight' as far as boxing goes. And since he can't make the weight limit and he says that this will be his last one and it was just fitting that he won against a tough and game Robson. So it's time for them to mix up and get the belt that Stevenson has vacated and so it open up another opportunity for Robson even if he lost this fight.

No doubt about that, even Robson survive till the last round, but it was an obvious win for Shakur.

There's no doubt that he really achieved the best place in this division, but it's time for him to explore and weight up
to challenge other champion from another division. It would be nice to see who's going to be his opponent and if that
might be a title fight or an entry fight, then he will chase for the belt after.

[Japinat]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

Shakur made a good move on forfeiting the fight because he knows himself that he cannot shrink that 1.6 pounds in mere 2 hours before the official weigh-in, it could be a walk in the park for Shakur if he had made the required weight. The difference of their power is so evident, Robson doesn't stand a chance against Shakur and that's for real. Nevertheless, it was a good run and now it's time for him to take his power in lightweight division.

[Jating]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

Shakur made a good move on forfeiting the fight because he knows himself that he cannot shrink that 1.6 pounds in mere 2 hours before the official weigh-in, it could be a walk in the park for Shakur if he had made the required weight. The difference of their power is so evident, Robson doesn't stand a chance against Shakur and that's for real. Nevertheless, it was a good run and now it's time for him to take his power in lightweight division.

As I have previously, it was a good decision on their side, nothing to regrets as he if shrink himself that 1.6 lbs, it can do damage to him. And it was evident that in the power department, Shakur has the advantage and that body shot really slow down Robson in the fight. Although he says that he will pull a surprised, there's nothing spectacular about him. Top tier boxers, he had difficulty, but probably he can beat the rest of the fighters in this division but might fall short of the champion. Anyhow, let's see how the eliminator will be for both belts. I'm seeing Robson figuring out in one of those fights.

[lionheart78]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Yeah, Robson is fully outclassed by Shakur.  And that KO, punched delivered to the body of Robson is quite unnoticeable, I thought it was a pushdown but when they do slowmotion, the punch to the body made Robson down on his knee.  I think that KO affected the fight-style of Robson that much that he seems to look like a different boxer from the time before the knockdown. If he forced his way in hitting the required weight, he might probably perform poorly and Conceicao probably had unified the belt.  It maybe not be that bad but surely his punching power and stamina will be greatly affected.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

You could have considered the decision of Shakur not forcing his way to meet the required weight.  His stamina and conditioning are almost not affected of the extra activity he has trying to meet the weight requirement since he decided not to when he feels it will cost him that much if he pursues the target weight.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

That would a very interesting story to find out. Shakur will be moving to a weight division that has lots of great boxer to offer and I agree, he needs some tune-up fight to have a feel of the weight division's strength before facing the creams of the crop on that division.

[Japinat]

As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

Shakur made a good move on forfeiting the fight because he knows himself that he cannot shrink that 1.6 pounds in mere 2 hours before the official weigh-in, it could be a walk in the park for Shakur if he had made the required weight. The difference of their power is so evident, Robson doesn't stand a chance against Shakur and that's for real. Nevertheless, it was a good run and now it's time for him to take his power in lightweight division.

As I have previously, it was a good decision on their side, nothing to regrets as he if shrink himself that 1.6 lbs, it can do damage to him. And it was evident that in the power department, Shakur has the advantage and that body shot really slow down Robson in the fight. Although he says that he will pull a surprised, there's nothing spectacular about him. Top tier boxers, he had difficulty, but probably he can beat the rest of the fighters in this division but might fall short of the champion. Anyhow, let's see how the eliminator will be for both belts. I'm seeing Robson figuring out in one of those fights.

Right, his body already giving him signs that it's time for him to move to the next weight class because he will suffer if he continues to reducing his weights just to meet the requirement even if that is not his comfort weight anymore. Well, that's one down for Robson and surely he will be fighting for that vacant title.

[Baofeng]

Thanks to everyone again who keep this thread a live with their insights and predictions. And mostly everyone got it right based on the poll.

And it was a good homecoming fight for Shakur, he didn't win by knockout by it was a dominating fight.

And to summarized, he won thru the judges scorecard  The official scores were 118-108, 117-109 and 117-109. He wasn't able to make the weight limit though, so he was stripped of his WBC/WBO belt. And he will be moving up in weight in his next fight, So he will at 135 lbs, and this division is pretty stock up.