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Question: Who will win this fight?
Stevenson by decision - 9 (45%)
Conceicao by decision - 0 (0%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
Stevenson by KO/TKO - 11 (55%)
Conceicao by KO/TKO - 0 (0%)
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Author Topic: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23  (Read 1733 times)
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July 22, 2022, 11:58:18 PM
Last edit: May 20, 2023, 11:08:49 PM by Baofeng
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It was reported that Stevenson's next opponent will be Robson Conceicao and the fight will be held at Shakur's home town of Newark, N.J.

As what we witnessed this year, Stevenson defeated Oscar Valdez to claim the WBC belt, he has the WBO belt when he defeated Herring.

On the other hard, Robson Conceicao lost to Oscar Valdez, but it was very controversial, Valdez was found to have PEDs in his system and the biased scoring.



https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/6/24/23182000/shakur-stevenson-next-fight-robson-conceicao-reportedly-close-sept-23-espn-boxing-news-2022

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Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

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July 23, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
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It seems that Stevenson is about to hit his prime and we have seen how he clearly dominated a tougher opponent in Oscar Valdez. Initially we thought that Oscar has a good chance against Shakur because of his left hook and power. But Shakur uses his boxing skills and very technical in dismantling Valdez and even score a knock down during their fight. For me, Stevenson will win this by a large margin if it goes to the judges scorecard and there will be no controversies , clear victory. A poll might be good though.

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July 23, 2022, 03:14:34 AM
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Jesus the odds is making Robson too weak.
Shakur by the way is already in the Pound for Pound list. Shakur will win this with wide UD if not by KO. Hard to outclass Shakur will his skills he is like semi-Loma back in his prime days. Neither Robson or Cordina will win against him which I believe is his next fight too.


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July 23, 2022, 07:12:02 AM
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Jesus the odds is making Robson too weak.
Shakur by the way is already in the Pound for Pound list. Shakur will win this with wide UD if not by KO. Hard to outclass Shakur will his skills he is like semi-Loma back in his prime days. Neither Robson or Cordina will win against him which I believe is his next fight too.
I agree, Robson might have given Oscar Valdez all he can handle, but against this version of Shakur we might be looking for a knockout or unanimous decision as you have said. Could be a wide margin and then we will see brilliance of Shakur just like in the Valdez fight.

Maybe after this fight, Shakur might go with unification fight with maybe Cordina IBF champion or Gutierrez at WBA.

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I think Shakur can clean up this division in the next year or so. And then probably go up to 135 lbs division and maybe look for the money fight there. It will be a great fight between him and Davis. We've seen him and some of the boxers in the Davis vs Romero fight and he said that him and Davis will be great.

Anyhow, if he get past Robson and chances are high that he will, he will target the two champions and then unify and go up in weight.

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I think Shakur can clean up this division in the next year or so. And then probably go up to 135 lbs division and maybe look for the money fight there. It will be a great fight between him and Davis. We've seen him and some of the boxers in the Davis vs Romero fight and he said that him and Davis will be great.

Anyhow, if he get past Robson and chances are high that he will, he will target the two champions and then unify and go up in weight.

He did made a good run since he retained his title, Herring, Valdez and Conceicao will just be few down his list. Stevenson got a long way for his career and this is just giving Conceicao another chance for a title. Its a hard battle for him though.

Conceicao doesn't have a KO power, I'd just give that to Shakur. What he have is the height and reach advantage which will give a hard time for Shakur for every round. Its just how they could outbox each other.

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Shakur Stevenson is a young and hard-hitting boxer and it seems to me that he is faster and more technical compared to Robson Conceicao, so Shakur has every chance of winning, perhaps, and he has not bad chances for a knockout.
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July 23, 2022, 12:56:03 PM
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I think Shakur can clean up this division in the next year or so. And then probably go up to 135 lbs division and maybe look for the money fight there. It will be a great fight between him and Davis. We've seen him and some of the boxers in the Davis vs Romero fight and he said that him and Davis will be great.

Anyhow, if he get past Robson and chances are high that he will, he will target the two champions and then unify and go up in weight.

He did made a good run since he retained his title, Herring, Valdez and Conceicao will just be few down his list. Stevenson got a long way for his career and this is just giving Conceicao another chance for a title. Its a hard battle for him though.

Conceicao doesn't have a KO power, I'd just give that to Shakur. What he have is the height and reach advantage which will give a hard time for Shakur for every round. Its just how they could outbox each other.

I think Herring did have the same or even longer reach than Robson but Shakur was able to negate it during their fight and become the aggressor and switch strategies as the fight progresses. He uses his ring IQ, attack the body more in the latter round to soften up Herring.

I think that will be the same strategy that he will do in this fight to offset Robson height and length against him and win by out boxing Conceicao.
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July 23, 2022, 01:10:28 PM
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Shakur Stevenson at 1.05, I would simply think that he will win this fight, I'm not seeing an upset here, this is most likely another tune up fight for him better get a big fight again. His opponent is not popular, though with 17-1 record, that's nothing if he had not into popular fights.

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July 23, 2022, 02:53:45 PM
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Shakur just keeps getting better he is good in defense and offense although he lacks in power, I agree that he should be in the top list of pounds for pound Robson Conceicao is a good fighter but no way he can beat Shakur, it's only a matter of time before he rules the Super featherweight/Junior lightweight (130 lb/59 kg) because all the champions in other organizations like Gutiérrez and Cordina can't match his skill, so I bet Shakur Stevenson to win the bout via knock out.

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July 23, 2022, 03:11:58 PM
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Shakur Stevenson is a strong team and they have higherly winning chance. So they always offer low returns for betting on their behalf. They have a 90% chance of winning the game and most of the time they win. so i am always support Shakur Stevenson every times. and i make bet behalf them


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July 23, 2022, 03:18:21 PM
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The odds is very small that is not worth it to bet at all. This match is not interesting at all for me even if this a title fight because Stevenson is dominant on this game not because he is the current title holder but rather he defeat Oscar Valdez in dominant way which is the previous holder of one of his belt while Conceicao was beaten by Valdez.

I under that each boxer has different style so there might be some changes but Stevenson previous matches are all resulted on convincing way so I will not be surprised that odds is terrible.

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July 23, 2022, 10:36:45 PM
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It was reported that Stevenson's next opponent will be Robson Conceicao and the fight will be held at Shakur's home town of Newark, N.J.

This would be a battle of former Olympic medalists, silver for Shakur while gold for Robson if I'm not mistaken.

Just wonder why this fight is going to be held in New Jersey and not in Las Vegas where gamblers could see live the unified champion, Shakur Stevenson. Maybe Bob Arum has something to do with this as I read an article after Shakur won against Valdez that Arum is not too fond of Shakur being a defensive fighter and can't draw a massive crowd which I believe might be the reason why this fight is to be held in Shakur's hometown.

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July 23, 2022, 10:47:02 PM
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It was reported that Stevenson's next opponent will be Robson Conceicao and the fight will be held at Shakur's home town of Newark, N.J.

This would be a battle of former Olympic medalists, silver for Shakur while gold for Robson if I'm not mistaken.

Just wonder why this fight is going to be held in New Jersey and not in Las Vegas where gamblers could see live the unified champion, Shakur Stevenson. Maybe Bob Arum has something to do with this as I read an article after Shakur won against Valdez that Arum is not too fond of Shakur being a defensive fighter and can't draw a massive crowd which I believe might be the reason why this fight is to be held in Shakur's hometown.

yes, robson got his gold medal at 2016 olympics. but the reason why it will be in NJ, maybe they are not looking for huge gate payout here. but talking about the odds, bookies are seeing that robson is not a threat to shakur because of the wide gap. who knows, this may be an upset, if robson will prepare for this fight. so let's see...

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July 23, 2022, 10:47:51 PM
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It was reported that Stevenson's next opponent will be Robson Conceicao and the fight will be held at Shakur's home town of Newark, N.J.

This would be a battle of former Olympic medalists, silver for Shakur while gold for Robson if I'm not mistaken.

Just wonder why this fight is going to be held in New Jersey and not in Las Vegas where gamblers could see live the unified champion, Shakur Stevenson. Maybe Bob Arum has something to do with this as I read an article after Shakur won against Valdez that Arum is not too fond of Shakur being a defensive fighter and can't draw a massive crowd which I believe might be the reason why this fight is to be held in Shakur's hometown.

Perhaps the sticking point is that Shakur will show his talent on his hometown? But I somewhat agree with Bob's observation, Shakur style as we all known is very frown by casual fans except for those hardcore and his fans. So maybe him making the fight in Shakur hometown will draw some fans into the gate and then later Bob Arum can spin it around down the line saying Shakur is the A-side because he bring fans to buy tickets for his fight. Clever move and a win-win for Shakur image and Top Rank.

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July 24, 2022, 01:30:10 AM
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Shakur just keeps getting better he is good in defense and offense although he lacks in power, I agree that he should be in the top list of pounds for pound Robson Conceicao is a good fighter but no way he can beat Shakur, it's only a matter of time before he rules the Super featherweight/Junior lightweight (130 lb/59 kg) because all the champions in other organizations like Gutiérrez and Cordina can't match his skill, so I bet Shakur Stevenson to win the bout via knock out.

Not sure if he lacks power, if I'm not mistaken, he knock down or knock out his opponents with body shot. And I would say that he has one of the most powerful body shots in the lower division. But this fight is again another best test for him, we've seen how his defense is, so I'm expecting of him to somewhat show his prowess just like what he did on taking apart Oscar Valdez. Dela Hoya even twitter that he is a combination of Floyd and Canelo.

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July 24, 2022, 02:12:45 AM
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It was really a masterful and class shown by Shakur in the Valdez fight. In that fight, he really moves like Floyd Mayweather (just finished watching the highlights just now). There were rounds that Valdez is the aggressor and pushing the fight, even pinning him in the ropes. But Shakur is too intelligent to be trap and that jab is really superb. And then he combine it with body shots and then going to the head. I doubt know how Robson Conceicao will counter that.

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July 24, 2022, 04:48:43 AM
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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

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July 24, 2022, 07:51:38 AM
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Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

Shakur Stevenson should challenge the other championship holders in his weight class for a move on unifying all the championships similar to Naoya Inoue.

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July 24, 2022, 09:16:34 AM
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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him.

Stevenson - 1.05
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The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez.

Edit: I also added a poll.

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July 26, 2022, 08:34:40 PM
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Just a quick update on this fight:

Here is the kick off press conference, however, Robson is not yet in the US, nevertheless you can see the support Newark has given to Shakur though, the mayor is there to give support to him.

There's also a lot of prospects in the undercard, so overall I will say that Top Rank has put a good match in this fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L14l1zY5tU

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He is obviously well love in Newark as what the Mayor says, he really carry them in his jersey and boxing trunks and represents the City and they are just giving it back to him.

And then he assured his fans that he is going to beat him Conceicao, and he will be technical (just like in the Valdez fight). So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

Shakur waits for an opportunity while the pressure fighter comes after him like what he did with Valdez but why they did all this show while Robson is not there at all will make the crowd think its all just Shakur show.

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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.
Stevenson is a boxer with great skill and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent, and Valdez is a formidable champion with an unbeaten record in 30 fights. But all those report cards turned red against Stevenson.
and I will also say the same thing that Conceicao will lose and KO before the last round.

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July 28, 2022, 02:38:21 AM
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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.
Stevenson is a boxer with great skill and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent, and Valdez is a formidable champion with an unbeaten record in 30 fights. But all those report cards turned red against Stevenson.
and I will also say the same thing that Conceicao will lose and KO before the last round.

That is what you call ring IQ, and I agree, against Herring it was a different strategy and so with the Oscar Valdez win.

It's not hard to see Stevnson winning by KO and the fight not going to distance. We might see him as being a very cerebral fighter, but he also possesses a KO power at this division. It could be a body shot to the liver and Robson can't beat the count.

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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

Let me quote it for you,

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“I think that’s where [Oscar] Valdez made a mistake. He didn’t put the pressure on [Conceicao] and didn’t try to start beating him up until rounds six, seven. I think that’s where he went wrong. With me, from round two and three, you’ll see a lot of me trying to beat him up. I wanna get him out of there.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/stevenson-im-going-there-beat-up-conceicao-wanna-get-him-out-there--167887

So that's what he said and that's why I said that I'm expecting Shakur to really jump on the gun. He can still be technical but at the same time be the aggressor and not giving Robson any space from the early rounds. He actually score a knock down against Valdez in round 6 if you are not aware of.  And as you have said, he dominated Valdez with his technical abilities but at the same time deliver a knock down punch.

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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

Shakur waits for an opportunity while the pressure fighter comes after him like what he did with Valdez but why they did all this show while Robson is not there at all will make the crowd think its all just Shakur show.

Consider this the easiest fight match to make money as long as you bet a huge amount also seeing what the odds is as of now. It will also be a huge loss if an upset happens.

That will really be a huge upset if Robson somewhat manage to win, in any form against the best 130 lbs  fighter we have. No doubt that Robson have the tools, but at the same time, Shakur is about to hit the peak of his boxing career so it will be very difficult to see a boxer with this caliber at his prime being upset. So for me, I'm not seeing it happening, and so again, the wise bet could be Shakur.

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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him.

Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez.

Edit: I also added a poll.

The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.

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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him.

Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez.

Edit: I also added a poll.

The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.
What is the odds for over 7.5? I haven't check sports bookies yet.

But if we look at Stevenson's record some of them are UD, so I reckon this might be the case against Robson, as Conceicao could be a tough cookie to crack. I mean he is not American obviously, so his style might be very different on other fighters that Shakur has face in his last 3-4 fights. So if the over 7.5 has a good odds then why not?

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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him.

Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez.

Edit: I also added a poll.

The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.

I think you can put your vote on the outright victory instead of the KO/TKO options.

I would guess the bookies might favor the under 7.5 rounds as opposed to the over. However, I think that they will listed the over/under at 10.5.

Yes, the records of both shows that this might go to the distance, but we will see, I would love to see the odds on Shakur winning by KO/TKO, if that is attractive enough, I might go for it.

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July 28, 2022, 11:31:29 AM
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The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.


Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset.

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The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.


Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset.

I'm just thinking, maybe Conceicao might be tougher than Valdez?

What are your thoughts about that?

A good boxer like Shakur doesn't underestimate their opponents, Herring and Valdez are two great fighters that he has beaten and gotten the belt. But Conceicao is an Olympian and so is Shakur, but yes, style makes fights, so I will give credit Conceicao is he can last the full 12 rounds without getting knock down or losing by knock out.
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The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.


Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset.

I'm just thinking, maybe Conceicao might be tougher than Valdez?

What are your thoughts about that?

Maybe, because Robson "almost" beat Valdez in their fight. But it doesn't matter to Shakur though. In his mind, he can beat anyone at this division and could be looking for a unification fight iwith the other champions in the future. So as long as he can get the job done, then Valdez or Herring or even Conceicao can't win against the best version of Shakur right now. And it will be an intriguing that after unifying all the belts in 130 lbs, moving up in weight and then fight the likes of Tank Davis.
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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918
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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner.

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July 31, 2022, 03:00:29 PM
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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

If he is not comfortable anymore he should let go of the Junior Lightweight and become a full fledge lightweight, boxers should be in their comfortable weight when getting in the weigh-in without draining their body, it will have a bad impact on their performance, he will be in good contention fighting in the lightweight, a match with Haney will be good for his legacy, of course, he needs to get past Robson who is a very tough fighter. 

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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

If he is not comfortable anymore he should let go of the Junior Lightweight and become a full fledge lightweight, boxers should be in their comfortable weight when getting in the weigh-in without draining their body, it will have a bad impact on their performance, he will be in good contention fighting in the lightweight, a match with Haney will be good for his legacy, of course, he needs to get past Robson who is a very tough fighter. 

For sure, if he feels that he is outgrowing this division and may have to go up and move up in weight. He already said that in previous interviews that he has plans to going up weight classes. But for now, he seems to be secured here.

And as mentioned in the past articles, if he ever wins here, he might face either the WBA champion Roger Gutierrez or IBF Joe Cordina. So maybe that's his goal first, to unify all the belts before moving up to 135 lbs. division.

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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner.

The fight that we are anticipating in 135 pounds will be him vs Tank Davis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvx82C8To

And he even calls out Davis, so that is a dream match. But in any case, Shakur should do his business here, clean the 130 pounds division first. I think he can beat Cordina and Gutierrez and have all the belts. And then go up one class above at 135 pounds.
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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner.

The fight that we are anticipating in 135 pounds will be him vs Tank Davis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvx82C8To

And he even calls out Davis, so that is a dream match. But in any case, Shakur should do his business here, clean the 130 pounds division first. I think he can beat Cordina and Gutierrez and have all the belts. And then go up one class above at 135 pounds.

Of course, he should, if you want to excite the boxing community, the way to go is to call out the top boxer in that division, and only Tank Davis and Haney are the top names in that division he should also call out Haney, and you are right he should wipe the Junior Division first he can do that because he is the top name in that division he can pressure the other champions and promoters to do that before going up in the Lightweight, if he goes up in the lightweight division it will be one of the most exciting divisions in boxing.


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August 01, 2022, 10:49:27 AM
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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner.

The fight that we are anticipating in 135 pounds will be him vs Tank Davis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvx82C8To

And he even calls out Davis, so that is a dream match. But in any case, Shakur should do his business here, clean the 130 pounds division first. I think he can beat Cordina and Gutierrez and have all the belts. And then go up one class above at 135 pounds.

Of course, he should, if you want to excite the boxing community, the way to go is to call out the top boxer in that division, and only Tank Davis and Haney are the top names in that division he should also call out Haney, and you are right he should wipe the Junior Division first he can do that because he is the top name in that division he can pressure the other champions and promoters to do that before going up in the Lightweight, if he goes up in the lightweight division it will be one of the most exciting divisions in boxing.

I don't know, Stevenson vs Haney, I think that's not a good match, it will be boring, I would rather watch a Stevenson vs Davis because for sure Davis will dictate the fight and it will not be a boring fight.

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August 01, 2022, 12:02:31 PM
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Shakur Stevenson is a young and hard-hitting boxer and it seems to me that he is faster and more technical compared to Robson Conceicao, so Shakur has every chance of winning, perhaps, and he has not bad chances for a knockout.

Since he will be fighting in his hometown, I think the fight will be dedicated to his people out there and he is more motivated to win this fight and give his very best to knock out his opponent. the kid will gonna dominate his opponent, a young champion like him is almost impossible to beat, it requires tremendous effort and strategy which only has a little chance to work if executes well. Stevenson will be one of the next HOF if he can somehow dominate every weight class he is currently in. But before that, I think he will have some great walls to break in the upcoming years of his pro career as a boxer.

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It was really a masterful and class shown by Shakur in the Valdez fight. In that fight, he really moves like Floyd Mayweather (just finished watching the highlights just now). There were rounds that Valdez is the aggressor and pushing the fight, even pinning him in the ropes. But Shakur is too intelligent to be trap and that jab is really superb. And then he combine it with body shots and then going to the head. I doubt know how Robson Conceicao will counter that.

I have always thought that Shakur is on another level, this time it was shown, just like you, I think that in boxing things go well when intelligence is used, Valdez did not have any more opportunities, he believed that he could have an advantage with the fight at full strength, and imposing force, but it was very good and hard how Shakur won, now I wonder, what will happen to Shakur, where will they escalate him in his next fight, the boxer is very hot and I'm sure he he wants more action, plus the amount of money he should have won is not a small thing, it is a considerable thing.

Shakur Stevenson is a young and hard-hitting boxer and it seems to me that he is faster and more technical compared to Robson Conceicao, so Shakur has every chance of winning, perhaps, and he has not bad chances for a knockout.

Since he will be fighting in his hometown, I think the fight will be dedicated to his people out there and he is more motivated to win this fight and give his very best to knock out his opponent. the kid will gonna dominate his opponent, a young champion like him is almost impossible to beat, it requires tremendous effort and strategy which only has a little chance to work if executes well. Stevenson will be one of the next HOF if he can somehow dominate every weight class he is currently in. But before that, I think he will have some great walls to break in the upcoming years of his pro career as a boxer.

Well, maybe Shakur can feel a little more advantagehj, but he wouldn't trust me too much, because in the same way, having his public support him is hard, because apart from the fact that he can feel that support, he can have pressure that is something much stronger, sometimes the pressure causes the person to be persuaded and not be able to fight with such freedom.

This is something that very few still see, but I really see it as an advantage, but one thing is what one thinks as an spectator and another is what the boxer feels, it is a set of emotions.

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August 04, 2022, 11:59:15 PM
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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner.

The fight that we are anticipating in 135 pounds will be him vs Tank Davis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvx82C8To

And he even calls out Davis, so that is a dream match. But in any case, Shakur should do his business here, clean the 130 pounds division first. I think he can beat Cordina and Gutierrez and have all the belts. And then go up one class above at 135 pounds.

Of course, he should, if you want to excite the boxing community, the way to go is to call out the top boxer in that division, and only Tank Davis and Haney are the top names in that division he should also call out Haney, and you are right he should wipe the Junior Division first he can do that because he is the top name in that division he can pressure the other champions and promoters to do that before going up in the Lightweight, if he goes up in the lightweight division it will be one of the most exciting divisions in boxing.

I don't know, Stevenson vs Haney, I think that's not a good match, it will be boring, I would rather watch a Stevenson vs Davis because for sure Davis will dictate the fight and it will not be a boring fight.

Yeah, he is more interested on fighting Tank Davis, although Haney has is the man because he is the undisputed champion. But it seems that Shakur is thinking about the money that he can made if ever him and Davis will clash in the ring. And he wanted to test his skills obviously against a power puncher like Davis and see if he can stand a chance. His defensive prowess against a southpaw. Maybe like a similar Pacquiao vs Floyd kind of fight. But if they will face on their primes then it's going to be a must watch.

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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner.

The fight that we are anticipating in 135 pounds will be him vs Tank Davis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvx82C8To

And he even calls out Davis, so that is a dream match. But in any case, Shakur should do his business here, clean the 130 pounds division first. I think he can beat Cordina and Gutierrez and have all the belts. And then go up one class above at 135 pounds.

Of course, he should, if you want to excite the boxing community, the way to go is to call out the top boxer in that division, and only Tank Davis and Haney are the top names in that division he should also call out Haney, and you are right he should wipe the Junior Division first he can do that because he is the top name in that division he can pressure the other champions and promoters to do that before going up in the Lightweight, if he goes up in the lightweight division it will be one of the most exciting divisions in boxing.

I don't know, Stevenson vs Haney, I think that's not a good match, it will be boring, I would rather watch a Stevenson vs Davis because for sure Davis will dictate the fight and it will not be a boring fight.

Yeah, he is more interested on fighting Tank Davis, although Haney has is the man because he is the undisputed champion. But it seems that Shakur is thinking about the money that he can made if ever him and Davis will clash in the ring. And he wanted to test his skills obviously against a power puncher like Davis and see if he can stand a chance. His defensive prowess against a southpaw. Maybe like a similar Pacquiao vs Floyd kind of fight. But if they will face on their primes then it's going to be a must watch.

For sure, Stevenson vs Haney might be a boring fight as both are very defensive minded, although I must say that Shakur has the power advantage at least in his career as he can knock out or knock down anyone at 130 lbs and maybe it will carry up to 135 lbs. And maybe it's one reason why he wanted Davis, because Tank style will suit him very much and it will be an intriguing fight and definitely the money is bigger than a Haney fight.

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Shakur Stevenson does not rule out the possibility that after the fight with Conceicao he will move to the lightweight category, but as he says, everything will depend on how this fight goes and everything will depend on his physical condition.

source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner.

The fight that we are anticipating in 135 pounds will be him vs Tank Davis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvx82C8To

And he even calls out Davis, so that is a dream match. But in any case, Shakur should do his business here, clean the 130 pounds division first. I think he can beat Cordina and Gutierrez and have all the belts. And then go up one class above at 135 pounds.

Of course, he should, if you want to excite the boxing community, the way to go is to call out the top boxer in that division, and only Tank Davis and Haney are the top names in that division he should also call out Haney, and you are right he should wipe the Junior Division first he can do that because he is the top name in that division he can pressure the other champions and promoters to do that before going up in the Lightweight, if he goes up in the lightweight division it will be one of the most exciting divisions in boxing.

I don't know, Stevenson vs Haney, I think that's not a good match, it will be boring, I would rather watch a Stevenson vs Davis because for sure Davis will dictate the fight and it will not be a boring fight.

Yeah, he is more interested on fighting Tank Davis, although Haney has is the man because he is the undisputed champion. But it seems that Shakur is thinking about the money that he can made if ever him and Davis will clash in the ring. And he wanted to test his skills obviously against a power puncher like Davis and see if he can stand a chance. His defensive prowess against a southpaw. Maybe like a similar Pacquiao vs Floyd kind of fight. But if they will face on their primes then it's going to be a must watch.

For sure, Stevenson vs Haney might be a boring fight as both are very defensive minded, although I must say that Shakur has the power advantage at least in his career as he can knock out or knock down anyone at 130 lbs and maybe it will carry up to 135 lbs. And maybe it's one reason why he wanted Davis, because Tank style will suit him very much and it will be an intriguing fight and definitely the money is bigger than a Haney fight.

He could ramp the belts in WBA from featherweight to 145 and then back to 130 again to beat the guys like Lopes, Haney, and Garcia. Although these 3 I think will also chase Shakur once he's going 140lbs. I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank. He'll be able to fight Lopez if he isn't able to win vs Tank.



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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

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August 05, 2022, 12:27:40 PM
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

It's because style makes fight, and somewhat Shakur has the advantage in height and in reach and maybe he thinks he can utilize that one against one of the biggest puncher in the 135 lbs.

And I don't think that Davis will back down this fight, this is another fight that can define both of their careers, and this could be one hell of a war. Hopefully though, both their promotional company will be interested as well because that will be the biggest hindrance since Shakur is with Bob Arum and Davis with Floyd (not sure if he has sign a contract extension.)

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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

It's because style makes fight, and somewhat Shakur has the advantage in height and in reach and maybe he thinks he can utilize that one against one of the biggest puncher in the 135 lbs.

And I don't think that Davis will back down this fight, this is another fight that can define both of their careers, and this could be one hell of a war. Hopefully though, both their promotional company will be interested as well because that will be the biggest hindrance since Shakur is with Bob Arum and Davis with Floyd (not sure if he has sign a contract extension.)

It's why this fight will be more of a money maker. Although Shakur proved to be talented already, he'd be tested with a quick punch from a KO artist. So we'll see if what he did to Valdez will still be effective to keep Tank at bay.

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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

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August 10, 2022, 02:00:59 AM
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

I guess it's really who is going to come up with the money on the table. Dela Hoya said that he is willing to discuss it with anyone in Davis camp to make the fight happen with Ryan Garcia. Although there are a lot of things that need to be talk about, like purse split and the network that will cover the fight. Nevertheless if both side are really willing to sit down and 100% on it, then there is no stopping this fight. This is also the case for Shakur, he is with Top Rank so it's a different company with Tank Davis. But same reasoning, this fight can me made if they want to, easy as that.

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August 10, 2022, 10:00:57 AM
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

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August 10, 2022, 11:16:56 AM
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As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.
Yep, he need to face 2 boxers again if he's really looking to obtain the other belts on his current weight, maybe on Q2 2023 to Q1 2024 we will see Shakur will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division.

I think Garcia vs Tank will happen soon before Shakur have move up to lightweight division, I'm more excited with this fight rather than rematch between Kambosos vs Haney.

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The chances of winning between the two boxers are difficult to predict where these two boxers already have many supporters, but it is undeniable that Shakur has great technical skills and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent.
and my hope is shakur will win this match just 2 rounds and make the opponent KO

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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

We need to see how Shakur takes Robson, then speculate what will be his next fate, a win is a good chance of bringing

himself to face Davis and that would be another money fight that will bring more hypes to his career.
He should impress the fans in his upcoming fight and bring the attention to Davis camp, promoters
will surely ride with this and possible to negotiate for the potential fight.
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The chances of winning between the two boxers are difficult to predict where these two boxers already have many supporters, but it is undeniable that Shakur has great technical skills and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent.
and my hope is shakur will win this match just 2 rounds and make the opponent KO

I haven't fully watched that Valdez-Conceicao controversial fight but I heard a lot say it should've gone to Conceicao.

Both Conceicao and the champion got good skills but Shakur is getting better each day. And Shakur's fighting in his hometown with his promoter staging the event so this is everything wrong for Conceicao. My only concern is Shakur's lack of power. So I really doubt a second-round knockout happens. It is possible Shakur might be a little aggressive here as Conceicao is not a heavy puncher either so knockout may happen but in the late rounds. 

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August 11, 2022, 02:48:19 PM
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

I agree, Shakur should just focus in his current division even if he will manage to defeat Robson here because there are still 2 belts remaining that are in possession of two different champions in the super featherweight. Going against Tank will be a tough challenge for him as we don't know yet if he can still have the same speed and power in the upper weight class.

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August 11, 2022, 03:54:17 PM
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As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.
Yep, he need to face 2 boxers again if he's really looking to obtain the other belts on his current weight, maybe on Q2 2023 to Q1 2024 we will see Shakur will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division.

I think Garcia vs Tank will happen soon before Shakur have move up to lightweight division, I'm more excited with this fight rather than rematch between Kambosos vs Haney.

There's almost no hype in Kambosos-Haney rematch, and I find it boring although Haney is really brilliant with his skills but people wants some entertaining match to see but we cannot really see those if Haney is participating. Also, I think Kambosos will just lose his face in front of his countrymen because Haney will just dominate him again, no doubt.

Garcia-Tank fight will be much exciting to see though, I hope they can make it happen this year and Shakur should just do some cleaning in his current weight class before moving up.
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The chances of winning between the two boxers are difficult to predict where these two boxers already have many supporters, but it is undeniable that Shakur has great technical skills and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent.
and my hope is shakur will win this match just 2 rounds and make the opponent KO

I haven't fully watched that Valdez-Conceicao controversial fight but I heard a lot say it should've gone to Conceicao.

Both Conceicao and the champion got good skills but Shakur is getting better each day. And Shakur's fighting in his hometown with his promoter staging the event so this is everything wrong for Conceicao. My only concern is Shakur's lack of power. So I really doubt a second-round knockout happens. It is possible Shakur might be a little aggressive here as Conceicao is not a heavy puncher either so knockout may happen but in the late rounds. 

Shakur really has an advantage in this match. He's aggressive and based on his previous fights, he has fast hands and strong defense. It's something that Conceicao should be ready about. He should also be ready to counter Shakur's movements. It will be tough for him and I hope that he won't get too surprised when he faces Shakur.
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

Yes, that will be Ryan Garcia who will have the chance to fight Tank Davis because they both belong in the same division and both of them are now getting interested to have a fight. Unlike Shakur who needed to climb another weight class if he decides to fight Tank Davis, frankly, he's a bit young and early to climb another division just for Tank. He should claim more belts in his own division first.

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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

I agree, Shakur should just focus in his current division even if he will manage to defeat Robson here because there are still 2 belts remaining that are in possession of two different champions in the super featherweight. Going against Tank will be a tough challenge for him as we don't know yet if he can still have the same speed and power in the upper weight class.

The only reason why I think that Shakur wanted to test his skills against Tank is that the amount of money that he could earn here.

So maybe he could bypass the 2 remaining belts, as someone said, it's not that important, this boxers will go and maximize every chance they can get to earn millions because their health is always on the line when they fight. Just the question on whether Top Rank can go and talk to Davis team, Floyd or Leonard Ellerbe.
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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


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August 13, 2022, 05:02:22 PM
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

I agree, Shakur should just focus in his current division even if he will manage to defeat Robson here because there are still 2 belts remaining that are in possession of two different champions in the super featherweight. Going against Tank will be a tough challenge for him as we don't know yet if he can still have the same speed and power in the upper weight class.

The only reason why I think that Shakur wanted to test his skills against Tank is that the amount of money that he could earn here.

So maybe he could bypass the 2 remaining belts, as someone said, it's not that important, this boxers will go and maximize every chance they can get to earn millions because their health is always on the line when they fight. Just the question on whether Top Rank can go and talk to Davis team, Floyd or Leonard Ellerbe.

For sure he will earn more millions of dollars if he will take on Gervonta Davis compared to the remaining title holders in super featherweight division combined but that is also if Bob Arum can make that fight happen before or after Ryan Garcia take on Davis because Shakur will be at the back of a long queue as Davis is one of the most sought after boxer in their neighboring division.

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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

I feel you mate but we can't do anything about it because that's the reality of their industry and boxing is really an entertainment business after all. Bob Arum and other promoters may be irritating in our eyes because of their styles but they are just trying to make and get every penny they could take because not every time there will be a great boxer in their possession.

As fans, all we can do is try to make some hype so that our much anticipated fights will happen in the future because that's one factor they will look into as they will try to see if that hyped fight will indeed make millions of dollars if they decide to make it happen.

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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

I feel you mate but we can't do anything about it because that's the reality of their industry and boxing is really an entertainment business after all. Bob Arum and other promoters may be irritating in our eyes because of their styles but they are just trying to make and get every penny they could take because not every time there will be a great boxer in their possession.

That is so true, boxing has grown so much in the last 40 years because of the promoters but they bring their tricks as well and this sports becomes a business. The super fight that we all wanting to see might take some time to happen, and worst when either one of them are already in the decline of their career. And then will fight for the money. It's much better if they will fight during their primes, so there will be no discussion as who is the best among them. But promoters will hold this back, create more hype first and when they are no longer at their best, set up the fight. And the fans are going to still show and buy tickets whether live gates and PPV, win-win for the network and promotional company and of course the boxer themselves.

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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

Robson also needs the money, they all need the money otherwise this fight will not materialize. Bob has already rebranded himself for the worse and if you are a hot fighter like Shakur he will give him more fight to fast forward the flow of cash. Make sure as well Shakur will be on the safe side, not killing the cow itself by matching him to someone they know can't beat him.

You can only wish there is an upset because youre too indisposed to bank for Shakur due to the odds.


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August 16, 2022, 06:28:24 AM
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

I feel you mate but we can't do anything about it because that's the reality of their industry and boxing is really an entertainment business after all. Bob Arum and other promoters may be irritating in our eyes because of their styles but they are just trying to make and get every penny they could take because not every time there will be a great boxer in their possession.

As fans, all we can do is try to make some hype so that our much anticipated fights will happen in the future because that's one factor they will look into as they will try to see if that hyped fight will indeed make millions of dollars if they decide to make it happen.
Putting pressure can bring those promoters to a dead end, though they are good at making excuses to attract more fans

to call for the fight that they are aiming to happen, milking cows are always in the last line to make sure that
they will get every money that they can get from the hype of their fighters.

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August 16, 2022, 09:37:33 AM
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

And yet we are still waiting for Crawford vs Spence?

But I do agree, Floyd did it, becoming his own manager and I think he set the bar very high when he get out of Bob Arum's contract. And that's where he become Money Mayweather and now fighters are trying to duplicate that blueprint. And so far only Canelo is successful I would say. Not sure if Crawford can do that, he is no longer young, I mean he need to act fast to be able to make millions by his own before he retire.

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August 16, 2022, 09:40:27 AM
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Robson also needs the money, they all need the money otherwise this fight will not materialize. Bob has already rebranded himself for the worse and if you are a hot fighter like Shakur he will give him more fight to fast forward the flow of cash. Make sure as well Shakur will be on the safe side, not killing the cow itself by matching him to someone they know can't beat him.

You can only wish there is an upset because youre too indisposed to bank for Shakur due to the odds.
Honestly there's no champion on super featherweight can kill Shakur career, I believe Shakur will win the entire fight and become undisputed champion. The reason why Shakur want to fight him is because many people think Robson win against Oscar Valdez, since Shakur already won against Oscar Valdez, then the next is proving if he's better than the these two boxers.

The next thing we will see Shakur fight against the champion on super featherweight division. If he will move up to lightweight division, then he will face many good boxers and could threat his career.

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August 16, 2022, 10:04:07 AM
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Robson also needs the money, they all need the money otherwise this fight will not materialize. Bob has already rebranded himself for the worse and if you are a hot fighter like Shakur he will give him more fight to fast forward the flow of cash. Make sure as well Shakur will be on the safe side, not killing the cow itself by matching him to someone they know can't beat him.

You can only wish there is an upset because youre too indisposed to bank for Shakur due to the odds.
Honestly there's no champion on super featherweight can kill Shakur career, I believe Shakur will win the entire fight and become undisputed champion. The reason why Shakur want to fight him is because many people think Robson win against Oscar Valdez, since Shakur already won against Oscar Valdez, then the next is proving if he's better than the these two boxers.
Yes, that is the selling point in this fight, Robson beat Valdez in their fight, although the judges favor Valdez. So the next big fight for him is to go against one of the champion which is Shakur and it's good that Stevenson accepted this fight without any hesitation.

The next thing we will see Shakur fight against the champion on super featherweight division. If he will move up to lightweight division, then he will face many good boxers and could threat his career.
That is the best thing to do with his career, before moving up in weight and call Davis, why not clean up his division first, unify all the belts and then go chase 135 lbs champion.

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August 16, 2022, 10:04:35 PM
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

And yet we are still waiting for Crawford vs Spence?

But I do agree, Floyd did it, becoming his own manager and I think he set the bar very high when he get out of Bob Arum's contract. And that's where he become Money Mayweather and now fighters are trying to duplicate that blueprint. And so far only Canelo is successful I would say. Not sure if Crawford can do that, he is no longer young, I mean he need to act fast to be able to make millions by his own before he retire.

Yup, there's still no update about that fight yet and I don't even know why takes them so long to announce it if it can happen this year.

There's a lot of boxers who tried to copy Floyd's book as Mayweather is truly clever enough to get the fight he wants and prolong some fights with hypes especially if he's at the disadvantage side. As for Crawford, Bob Arum turned him blind that time and maybe the latter promised Crawford some promising fights for his legacay because he re-signed another contract at that time.

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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

That's already natural in this industry because promoters will try and tease the people first to make some hype before making the fight to reality, along the way the promoters will let their boxers defeat all possible foes first that they think won't stand a chance for their boxers. And for Crawford's case, let's not forget that Bob is also an important factor why he reached the position he had now but Crawford's mistake is that he waited long enough before he leaves Bob even though he already knows that Bob doesn't care for his legacy.
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

That's already natural in this industry because promoters will try and tease the people first to make some hype before making the fight to reality, along the way the promoters will let their boxers defeat all possible foes first that they think won't stand a chance for their boxers. And for Crawford's case, let's not forget that Bob is also an important factor in why he reached the position he had now but Crawford's mistake is that he waited long enough before he leaves Bob even though he already knows that Bob doesn't care for his legacy.

That has been the strategy of Bob Arum over the years. He focuses mostly on how to make money from the boxers that he handles. However, we shouldn't unlike or hate him for that because he also does his part for boxers to create and establish a good career and name in the industry. It's just quite unfair for boxers who are being used and dragged down just to raise the career of their boxers.
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

That's already natural in this industry because promoters will try and tease the people first to make some hype before making the fight to reality, along the way the promoters will let their boxers defeat all possible foes first that they think won't stand a chance for their boxers. And for Crawford's case, let's not forget that Bob is also an important factor why he reached the position he had now but Crawford's mistake is that he waited long enough before he leaves Bob even though he already knows that Bob doesn't care for his legacy.

We can't really blame them for doing that because we might find ourselves in the same shoes if we were placed in Bob Arum's shoes, well, maybe there's some slight difference but the thing is that we also need to think how to make some money repeatedly because this is business in the first place and not all the time we will have a champion caliber in our promotion, so might be best to take some advantage for it.

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August 18, 2022, 04:26:49 PM
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

That's already natural in this industry because promoters will try and tease the people first to make some hype before making the fight to reality, along the way the promoters will let their boxers defeat all possible foes first that they think won't stand a chance for their boxers. And for Crawford's case, let's not forget that Bob is also an important factor in why he reached the position he had now but Crawford's mistake is that he waited long enough before he leaves Bob even though he already knows that Bob doesn't care for his legacy.

That has been the strategy of Bob Arum over the years. He focuses mostly on how to make money from the boxers that he handles. However, we shouldn't unlike or hate him for that because he also does his part for boxers to create and establish a good career and name in the industry. It's just quite unfair for boxers who are being used and dragged down just to raise the career of their boxers.

That is a part of the game, if they don't want to be used as an additional trophy in other boxers then they should improve their performance so that they will be the ones who will be using other boxers rather than being used. Makes sense, right?
We may hate Bob Arum for his tricks that might be unfair for his own boxers but he is good at making money while his boxers are also takes some benefit of that style. Truth is that Arum has made plenty boxers to be a big name in the industry and we can't deny that.

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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

That's already natural in this industry because promoters will try and tease the people first to make some hype before making the fight to reality, along the way the promoters will let their boxers defeat all possible foes first that they think won't stand a chance for their boxers. And for Crawford's case, let's not forget that Bob is also an important factor in why he reached the position he had now but Crawford's mistake is that he waited long enough before he leaves Bob even though he already knows that Bob doesn't care for his legacy.

That has been the strategy of Bob Arum over the years. He focuses mostly on how to make money from the boxers that he handles. However, we shouldn't unlike or hate him for that because he also does his part for boxers to create and establish a good career and name in the industry. It's just quite unfair for boxers who are being used and dragged down just to raise the career of their boxers.

That is a part of the game, if they don't want to be used as an additional trophy in other boxers then they should improve their performance so that they will be the ones who will be using other boxers rather than being used. Makes sense, right?
We may hate Bob Arum for his tricks that might be unfair for his own boxers but he is good at making money while his boxers are also takes some benefit of that style. Truth is that Arum has made plenty boxers to be a big name in the industry and we can't deny that.

As what we have been saying all along this years, boxing is already a business. Unlike before when we also have a couple of boxer promoters. Now we have a lot, Eddie Hearn started to make himself a name, he used to be just on the British side of boxing, but now he is stateside So there are a lot of competitions that promoters like Bob Arum and even Oscar build their boxers through cherry picking a fight and make it all for the house money.

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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

That's already natural in this industry because promoters will try and tease the people first to make some hype before making the fight to reality, along the way the promoters will let their boxers defeat all possible foes first that they think won't stand a chance for their boxers. And for Crawford's case, let's not forget that Bob is also an important factor why he reached the position he had now but Crawford's mistake is that he waited long enough before he leaves Bob even though he already knows that Bob doesn't care for his legacy.

Maybe Arum really did have a good offer that time that's why he stays with him. But now that he is already aged, I mean has the experience already, made a name for himself, so it's about time to have his own decision as who he wants to fight and so he will have total control of his legacy.

So this is going to be Crawford's post-Arum, so let's see how much money he will get (if the numbers are there) and what will be his next move in his career after this one.

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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.
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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.
That's his skills, he moves quick and he is not a knockout artist so he will be able to conserve his energy well. He is more like a technical fighter, knows how and when to attack, so this one should be another walk in the park fight.  Smiley



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August 19, 2022, 03:46:31 PM
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

That's already natural in this industry because promoters will try and tease the people first to make some hype before making the fight to reality, along the way the promoters will let their boxers defeat all possible foes first that they think won't stand a chance for their boxers. And for Crawford's case, let's not forget that Bob is also an important factor in why he reached the position he had now but Crawford's mistake is that he waited long enough before he leaves Bob even though he already knows that Bob doesn't care for his legacy.

That has been the strategy of Bob Arum over the years. He focuses mostly on how to make money from the boxers that he handles. However, we shouldn't unlike or hate him for that because he also does his part for boxers to create and establish a good career and name in the industry. It's just quite unfair for boxers who are being used and dragged down just to raise the career of their boxers.

Not just Bob Arum but almost all of the promoters in the boxing industry would want to make money especially if they have a great boxer carrying their flagship. As for Bob Arum, he's quite good at it and frankly, he is quite fast enough to find a match for his boxers so that the money will be flowing straight. If I were a great boxer, I would want to land on Bob Arum's roof because of that reason but at the same time, smart enough to leave his roof when I already made a name in the industry as money will always follow.
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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.

The best that Conceicao can do is drag the fight and score as many points as possible, though I don't think he can outlast Stevenson or even read his moves given the speed of his opponent. Nevertheless this is a good stepping stone for Robson to train himself against a fighter that is much better than him in most aspects. No disrespect to Conceicao but I don't see him doing something to shook Stevenson even in the slightest. He can always give his best but we all know that this would never be enough, unless a miracle shines through and favors Robson on this matchup.

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August 20, 2022, 01:47:41 PM
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.
I don't know, I think I would put Robson to win because lately I think I see him with more desire to win, more desire to be a more explosive boxer with a lot to prove and that's something I call hunger, and when a boxer he has this type of "hunger" he forgets who he fights with, and he only believes in himself, that's why I put my faith in him, of course I'm not saying that shakur is going to lose, but in general terms if shakur is unmotivated or if he simply doesn't drink This fight is very serious, a surprise could happen to him and not a very pleasant one, this is something that he must be very clear about, I do not doubt his technique, but a needy man would make him be more careful.

The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.

The best that Conceicao can do is drag the fight and score as many points as possible, though I don't think he can outlast Stevenson or even read his moves given the speed of his opponent. Nevertheless this is a good stepping stone for Robson to train himself against a fighter that is much better than him in most aspects. No disrespect to Conceicao but I don't see him doing something to shook Stevenson even in the slightest. He can always give his best but we all know that this would never be enough, unless a miracle shines through and favors Robson on this matchup.
Well you have to see that Stevenson will not leave a single centimeter of advantage, for now I know that Conceicao will come out with everything he has, what happens is that if he comes out like that, he will look for a knockout and I don't know how good that is, because when a boxer makes an effort like that, the amount of energy and strength he has to put in is a lot, although Conceicao is a boxer who can and his body has a way of resisting it, but the problem is that if he gets too exhausted, then his body will not respond to him as it is and that is where Stevenson can grab him, this is what can happen if he comes out with everything at the beginning with his strategy, a copsa that seems risky to me, but it is very possible.

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August 20, 2022, 05:38:32 PM
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Judging by the bookmakers' bets on this fight, Stevenson looks like a clear favorite and, as it seems to me objectively, he is 8 years younger than Conceicao, while they have the same experience in professional boxing, Stevenson is more technical and hardy, so Conceicao has very slim chances.
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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.

The best that Conceicao can do is drag the fight and score as many points as possible, though I don't think he can outlast Stevenson or even read his moves given the speed of his opponent. Nevertheless this is a good stepping stone for Robson to train himself against a fighter that is much better than him in most aspects. No disrespect to Conceicao but I don't see him doing something to shook Stevenson even in the slightest. He can always give his best but we all know that this would never be enough, unless a miracle shines through and favors Robson on this matchup.

Even if Robson tries to drag the fight, it will not make some difference as it won't increase his chances to win against Shakur. Instead, Robson may try to use his height and reach advantage to make some room from getting punches from the agile Shakur so that the score won't be that much far but that again won't give him his chance to win. Nevertheless, I'd say that this will be in-favor of Shakur even if the fight hasn't happen yet.
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Judging by the bookmakers' bets on this fight, Stevenson looks like a clear favorite and, as it seems to me objectively, he is 8 years younger than Conceicao, while they have the same experience in professional boxing, Stevenson is more technical and hardy, so Conceicao has very slim chances.

Yeah, I also check the odds and there are no chances, Stevenson is way ahead is sport bookies and there is no value bet on him on the ML odds. And Stevenson has all the tolls and advantage in this fight. I just want Robson though to give Shakur all he can take, Herring and Valdez I would say is a clear and dominant win by Shakur. So hopefully we will see him react is push comes to shove. Robson can do that similar to what he did against Oscar Valdez and almost won that fight.
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Judging by the bookmakers' bets on this fight, Stevenson looks like a clear favorite and, as it seems to me objectively, he is 8 years younger than Conceicao, while they have the same experience in professional boxing, Stevenson is more technical and hardy, so Conceicao has very slim chances.

Yeah, I also check the odds and there are no chances, Stevenson is way ahead is sport bookies and there is no value bet on him on the ML odds. And Stevenson has all the tolls and advantage in this fight. I just want Robson though to give Shakur all he can take, Herring and Valdez I would say is a clear and dominant win by Shakur. So hopefully we will see him react is push comes to shove. Robson can do that similar to what he did against Oscar Valdez and almost won that fight.

We never know because upset is always around in every fight but we can't really forget the fact that Shakur has the most advantage in this fight over Robson, but the latter can still do whatever it takes to at least give Shakur a hard time so that this fight wouldn't look like to be a walk in the park for Shakur. The match will happen in less than a month from now, maybe the odds of Shakur winning by a KO/TKO might change in our favor.
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Judging by the bookmakers' bets on this fight, Stevenson looks like a clear favorite and, as it seems to me objectively, he is 8 years younger than Conceicao, while they have the same experience in professional boxing, Stevenson is more technical and hardy, so Conceicao has very slim chances.

Yeah, I also check the odds and there are no chances, Stevenson is way ahead is sport bookies and there is no value bet on him on the ML odds. And Stevenson has all the tolls and advantage in this fight. I just want Robson though to give Shakur all he can take, Herring and Valdez I would say is a clear and dominant win by Shakur. So hopefully we will see him react is push comes to shove. Robson can do that similar to what he did against Oscar Valdez and almost won that fight.

We never know because upset is always around in every fight but we can't really forget the fact that Shakur has the most advantage in this fight over Robson, but the latter can still do whatever it takes to at least give Shakur a hard time so that this fight wouldn't look like to be a walk in the park for Shakur. The match will happen in less than a month from now, maybe the odds of Shakur winning by a KO/TKO might change in our favor.

Upsets happen but sometimes it was due to the opponent being replaced in the last minute (beyond the control of the favorite), but the if he didn't prepare for the fight itself then even if he has all the talent and so called advantage, he will be beaten. So who knows, maybe Robson will caught Shakur or maybe Shakur prepared 100% in this fight. So for know, we shall just based on the odds, Stevenson will be the favorite and it's up to us whether we will go against it or bet on him but not on the ML because the value is so low, close to even no value at all.

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And most upsets happened when the underdogs have KO power. Like what happened to Tyson-Douglas, Lewis-Rahman I, Lewis-McCall I, Mayorga-Forrest I, and so on. Kambosos although not a knockout artist with a 50% KO rate still managed to hurt Teo prompting the tempo of the fight to change. Conceicao on the other hand has less than a 50% KO rate plus he is fighting a young and super quick safety first boxer in Shakur. An upset is still possible but very unlikely.

So who's probably next after Conceicao? Move up to lightweight or try to become undisputed at super-featherweight? There are 2 more belts to collect for Shakur in the division with each of them owned by new champions just this year. New IBF champion Joe Cordina mentioned that he wanted Shakur while new WBA champ Hector Garcia I believe is not tied up to any rival networks of ESPN which is also very doable. But my dream fight for Shakur is to fight Haney before the undisputed champ moves up to super lightweight.

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~snip~

So who's probably next after Conceicao? Move up to lightweight or try to become undisputed at super-featherweight? There are 2 more belts to collect for Shakur in the division with each of them owned by new champions just this year. New IBF champion Joe Cordina mentioned that he wanted Shakur while new WBA champ Hector Garcia I believe is not tied up to any rival networks of ESPN which is also very doable. But my dream fight for Shakur is to fight Haney before the undisputed champ moves up to super lightweight.

I agree, upsets seldom happen if the opponent is not a knockout artist/power puncher. Oscar Valdez was the underdog in their fight, so if Oscar KOed Shakur that could be considered an upset at least for me. Shakur is a defensive fighter and opponents will be having a hard time figuring out how to defeat him including Conceicao so a loss by Shakur is a slim possibility here.

I think the only way to sell Shakur's fight is through unification and a fight with Haney is the way to go. I think Top Rank is having a hard time promoting Shakur due to his style as ordinary fans won't appreciate his brilliance in the ring as they are more appreciative to knockout artist like Valdez.

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So who's probably next after Conceicao? Move up to lightweight or try to become undisputed at super-featherweight? There are 2 more belts to collect for Shakur in the division with each of them owned by new champions just this year. New IBF champion Joe Cordina mentioned that he wanted Shakur while new WBA champ Hector Garcia I believe is not tied up to any rival networks of ESPN which is also very doable. But my dream fight for Shakur is to fight Haney before the undisputed champ moves up to super lightweight.

Hard to predict, lots of scenario as you have said:

1. unify the belts at 130 first, I think he can beat Cordina and Roger Gutierrez - for his legacy
2. move up to 135 test the water first and maybe down the line Haney or Davis - for the money

So it really up to him and his camp, he is still young though, so plenty of opportunities along the way for him.

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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


That is something for which it is impossible to fight, there is not a boxing event that does not have to do with the great interest of money, in fact I believe that many fights are not made because they take all the probabilities and sales statistics that can occur and if they do not match their numbers, they do not do it until they are clear that many will attend and achieve the sales they want, this without counting the millionaire and whale bets that occur, as I have said before, boxing is apart from a sport a clear business model that many benefit from in the name of sport, all this sells and everyone knows that, where they benefit from a lot of money.

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So who's probably next after Conceicao? Move up to lightweight or try to become undisputed at super-featherweight? There are 2 more belts to collect for Shakur in the division with each of them owned by new champions just this year. New IBF champion Joe Cordina mentioned that he wanted Shakur while new WBA champ Hector Garcia I believe is not tied up to any rival networks of ESPN which is also very doable. But my dream fight for Shakur is to fight Haney before the undisputed champ moves up to super lightweight.

I agree, upsets seldom happen if the opponent is not a knockout artist/power puncher. Oscar Valdez was the underdog in their fight, so if Oscar KOed Shakur that could be considered an upset at least for me. Shakur is a defensive fighter and opponents will be having a hard time figuring out how to defeat him including Conceicao so a loss by Shakur is a slim possibility here.

I think the only way to sell Shakur's fight is through unification and a fight with Haney is the way to go. I think Top Rank is having a hard time promoting Shakur due to his style as ordinary fans won't appreciate his brilliance in the ring as they are more appreciative to knockout artist like Valdez.

Although Shakur has already received a couple of knockouts, it does not mean that Conceicao will come to give him one just like it, I think that Shakur knows very well what his weak spot is, and he must stay very well away in the first round from a possible knockout, to My Conceicao's strategy will be to look for that knockout no matter what, it will not leave him alone, and because of how Conceicao is, I think he will try the first 3 Rounds, if it does not work out he will have to quickly stick to his second plan of action and that is when he should Be careful, because all the wear and tear has already been done, what you have left is to resist and wait to see how Shakur dictates the fight, this is what I think can happen.

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^ Everyone is after the money. Top Rank wouldn't want Shakur to be wasted while he is young, they've be matching him to some average fighter until they earned   unimaginable amount.

Bettors is also what they are after and this one sided match is a money maker. Shakur is just too much of an accurate skilled fighter compare to Conceicao. And to make sure he wins, the fight its also going to be held in Shakur's hometown. He has all the advantage in this fight.


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^ Everyone is after the money. Top Rank wouldn't want Shakur to be wasted while he is young, they've be matching him to some average fighter until they earned   unimaginable amount.
That's a business, and we know Bob Arum, he will make his best fighters as his cash cow.


Bettors is also what they are after and this one sided match is a money maker. Shakur is just too much of an accurate skilled fighter compare to Conceicao. And to make sure he wins, the fight its also going to be held in Shakur's hometown. He has all the advantage in this fight.
For bettors, it's 50-50, I mean there's no easy way to win as although our guess maybe right most of the time because w are favoring the heavy favorites, however, the odds is also very small.

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Bettors is also what they are after and this one sided match is a money maker. Shakur is just too much of an accurate skilled fighter compare to Conceicao. And to make sure he wins, the fight its also going to be held in Shakur's hometown. He has all the advantage in this fight.
For bettors, it's 50-50, I mean there's no easy way to win as although our guess maybe right most of the time because w are favoring the heavy favorites, however, the odds is also very small.

That's the norms in betting, there's no way our bookies would allow to lose money, they should make money as that's their business.

As we can see here, https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/shakur-stevenson-v-robson-conceicao/winner

It reflects that  Shakur Stevenson is the heavy favorite, while Robson Conceicao is 9/1 in the betting.
Judging on the betting odds, it looks very obvious who will easily win here.
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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.
That's his skills, he moves quick and he is not a knockout artist so he will be able to conserve his energy well. He is more like a technical fighter, knows how and when to attack, so this one should be another walk in the park fight.  Smiley

That's likely going to happen but we should refrain from using that term as we would be underestimating Robson that much if we say that this fight would be a piece of cake for Shakur, even if we know that Shakur truly has the odds in his side.

Surely Shakur himself knows that he ain't the KO artist type but it's quite certain that he will pursue other ways to bring the fight into his favor (fairly) and improve his scores as the fight likely ends in a decision.

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August 29, 2022, 06:33:17 PM
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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.
That's his skills, he moves quick and he is not a knockout artist so he will be able to conserve his energy well. He is more like a technical fighter, knows how and when to attack, so this one should be another walk in the park fight.  Smiley

That's likely going to happen but we should refrain from using that term as we would be underestimating Robson that much if we say that this fight would be a piece of cake for Shakur, even if we know that Shakur truly has the odds in his side.

Surely Shakur himself knows that he ain't the KO artist type but it's quite certain that he will pursue other ways to bring the fight into his favor (fairly) and improve his scores as the fight likely ends in a decision.

very high possibility that shakur will win on this fight. however, if you will bet on him right now, the odds is just like 1.05x, which is not worth if you are betting small. no other betting lines yet are available. maybe, couple of weeks from now, bookies will open more betting lines for this match, like the winning method and if the fight will go the distance. i guess, those betting lines are better to put your money into and try your luck.

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So who's probably next after Conceicao? Move up to lightweight or try to become undisputed at super-featherweight? There are 2 more belts to collect for Shakur in the division with each of them owned by new champions just this year. New IBF champion Joe Cordina mentioned that he wanted Shakur while new WBA champ Hector Garcia I believe is not tied up to any rival networks of ESPN which is also very doable. But my dream fight for Shakur is to fight Haney before the undisputed champ moves up to super lightweight.

Hard to predict, lots of scenario as you have said:

1. unify the belts at 130 first, I think he can beat Cordina and Roger Gutierrez - for his legacy
2. move up to 135 test the water first and maybe down the line Haney or Davis - for the money

So it really up to him and his camp, he is still young though, so plenty of opportunities along the way for him.

If I had a choice, it's better to get all the belts at 130 lbs, and there seems to be a new name in the horizon, Hector Luis Garcia, he defeated Roger Gutierrez to capture the WBA super featherweight title. So I think that alone will be a good motivation for Shakur because it seems that Hector is a good challenge.

And he is also calling Shakur for a unification fight before he moves to the next weight category (same plan as Shakur). And if Stevenson beat him then he will have the needed fight for a Davis fight in the future.

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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer. Though this is just a title defense fight, this fight is also an important step for his career as he will gain more experience from Robson and this fight will open more doors for him. Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession.

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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer...
....Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession.
The name 'Shakur' should, first of all, inspire fear in Robson's mind. I mean, the brother's gloves are smoking hot right now and Rob has got to train extra, and come up with new skills, quickly if he thinks of standing a chance. Who would train so hard, just to get beaten up with the hope of not getting paid in the end? The fight might not really be for the fight per se, but aside money, experience, history, chance and destinies, isn't there always supposed to be a catch? It makes it more interesting I think.

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^ Everyone is after the money. Top Rank wouldn't want Shakur to be wasted while he is young, they've be matching him to some average fighter until they earned   unimaginable amount.

Bettors is also what they are after and this one sided match is a money maker. Shakur is just too much of an accurate skilled fighter compare to Conceicao. And to make sure he wins, the fight its also going to be held in Shakur's hometown. He has all the advantage in this fight.



I guess that's why Bob Arum is always playing on top of the game as he knows how to make his boxers rise above and on top of that, knows how to make money. Right now, it's a good thing that Bob is welcoming change and lets his own boxers to have their chance to have a legacy in the industry like unifying all 4 belts.

Shakur has a bright future and Bob Arum will make sure that his boxer will be at the top of their game in their own respective division as that means he will keep on collecting profits from each fight they have.

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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer. Though this is just a title defense fight, this fight is also an important step for his career as he will gain more experience from Robson and this fight will open more doors for him. Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession.

Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

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September 01, 2022, 09:21:35 AM
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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.
That's his skills, he moves quick and he is not a knockout artist so he will be able to conserve his energy well. He is more like a technical fighter, knows how and when to attack, so this one should be another walk in the park fight.  Smiley

That's likely going to happen but we should refrain from using that term as we would be underestimating Robson that much if we say that this fight would be a piece of cake for Shakur, even if we know that Shakur truly has the odds in his side.

Surely Shakur himself knows that he ain't the KO artist type but it's quite certain that he will pursue other ways to bring the fight into his favor (fairly) and improve his scores as the fight likely ends in a decision.

very high possibility that shakur will win on this fight. however, if you will bet on him right now, the odds is just like 1.05x, which is not worth if you are betting small. no other betting lines yet are available. maybe, couple of weeks from now, bookies will open more betting lines for this match, like the winning method and if the fight will go the distance. i guess, those betting lines are better to put your money into and try your luck.

Right now is not the best time to place a bet for this fight, it's still too early. I reckon it would be more suitable to bet somewhere like 48 hours before the fight starts and I usually do that but if the odds aren't that tempting to see then I think I'll pass on this fight but I will watch this of course, it's great to see younger boxers making their way to be known in the industry.

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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.
That's his skills, he moves quick and he is not a knockout artist so he will be able to conserve his energy well. He is more like a technical fighter, knows how and when to attack, so this one should be another walk in the park fight.  Smiley

That's likely going to happen but we should refrain from using that term as we would be underestimating Robson that much if we say that this fight would be a piece of cake for Shakur, even if we know that Shakur truly has the odds in his side.

Surely Shakur himself knows that he ain't the KO artist type but it's quite certain that he will pursue other ways to bring the fight into his favor (fairly) and improve his scores as the fight likely ends in a decision.

very high possibility that shakur will win on this fight. however, if you will bet on him right now, the odds is just like 1.05x, which is not worth if you are betting small. no other betting lines yet are available. maybe, couple of weeks from now, bookies will open more betting lines for this match, like the winning method and if the fight will go the distance. i guess, those betting lines are better to put your money into and try your luck.

Right now is not the best time to place a bet for this fight, it's still too early. I reckon it would be more suitable to bet somewhere like 48 hours before the fight starts and I usually do that but if the odds aren't that tempting to see then I think I'll pass on this fight but I will watch this of course, it's great to see younger boxers making their way to be known in the industry.
Unless you are a fan of Robson, then it's better to place a bet on him ML as the odds are very attractive.

But if you are a Shakur fan, yes, I do agree, it's better to wait for the fight to get close. For sure there will be a lot of betting options for us, like by per round, or round range.

Although when we look a the schedule of this fight, it's 3 weeks from now and for sure the hype is also building specially that this fight is going to happen on Shakur's hometown.

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September 01, 2022, 10:04:42 AM
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Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

Since Shakur hasn't lost and has a decent record with some decent knockout percentage, looks like this fight is not that interesting because you can easily speculate how it will end up based on the record of his opponent. Robson is not a knockout artist as well and this fight will be a mind game and probably will reach the official's decisions. Shakur's win against Valdez last time was really a remarkable push to his career and gives him the huge experience to fight some worthy opponents next time. He must not give this Robson some easy fight because the guy is an Olympic gold medalist and also can upset him as well as what he did to Valdez.

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Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

Since Shakur hasn't lost and has a decent record with some decent knockout percentage, looks like this fight is not that interesting because you can easily speculate how it will end up based on the record of his opponent. Robson is not a knockout artist as well and this fight will be a mind game and probably will reach the official's decisions. Shakur's win against Valdez last time was really a remarkable push to his career and gives him the huge experience to fight some worthy opponents next time. He must not give this Robson some easy fight because the guy is an Olympic gold medalist and also can upset him as well as what he did to Valdez.

Shakur will surely win this fight, it might not be interesting but he has to accept the challenge and win convincingly, if we can see a KO win by him, that would be good to hype his name more and we might see a big fight next time. We thought Valdez was a tough opponent but it turns out it was not.

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September 01, 2022, 10:19:54 AM
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Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

Since Shakur hasn't lost and has a decent record with some decent knockout percentage, looks like this fight is not that interesting because you can easily speculate how it will end up based on the record of his opponent. Robson is not a knockout artist as well and this fight will be a mind game and probably will reach the official's decisions. Shakur's win against Valdez last time was really a remarkable push to his career and gives him the huge experience to fight some worthy opponents next time. He must not give this Robson some easy fight because the guy is an Olympic gold medalist and also can upset him as well as what he did to Valdez.

Maybe one thing that we can hold for Robson is that he gave a good fight and others see that he won against Oscar Valdez. So maybe that is the fight that Shakur is going to look as the blue print on how to beat him and maybe add some of his style too. He beat Valdez very easy, so for sure Shakur has all the tools to put up his own show in front of his own crowd. And yes, he shouldn't let Robson be comfortable like what Oscar did, I'm seeing Shakur overwhelming Robson with his sharp jab and then goes to the body to soften him and then goes to the head in the middle of the fight, and Robson will be confused.

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Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

Since Shakur hasn't lost and has a decent record with some decent knockout percentage, looks like this fight is not that interesting because you can easily speculate how it will end up based on the record of his opponent. Robson is not a knockout artist as well and this fight will be a mind game and probably will reach the official's decisions. Shakur's win against Valdez last time was really a remarkable push to his career and gives him the huge experience to fight some worthy opponents next time. He must not give this Robson some easy fight because the guy is an Olympic gold medalist and also can upset him as well as what he did to Valdez.

Shakur will surely win this fight, it might not be interesting but he has to accept the challenge and win convincingly, if we can see a KO win by him, that would be good to hype his name more and we might see a big fight next time. We thought Valdez was a tough opponent but it turns out it was not.

Yeah, Oscar Valdez is supposedly the best opponent for Shakur, but look at what he did to him. It's not even a match, it looks like he is fighting a boxer that he one below his weight class because of how he put a clinic in that fight, both in offense and defense. And Robson fight with Oscar is very close. So we might see another dominating performance by Shakur here and maybe goes up in weight although it will be better if he unify first the belt before moving up to 135 lbs and chase Tank Davis.
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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer. Though this is just a title defense fight, this fight is also an important step for his career as he will gain more experience from Robson and this fight will open more doors for him. Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession.

Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

I don't know who is the manager of Joe Cordina but his promoter is Eddie Hearn, they are already eyeing for Shakur Stevenson next because the latter holds the WBC and WBO but the deal is still blurred because Bob Arum has also issues with the Matchroom boxing which is also under Eddie Hearn. I can remember that Bob Arum says that the Matchroom cannot produce many viewers that's why the fight won't be profitable.

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September 01, 2022, 10:59:59 PM
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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.

Well I don't know, I think Shakur is an excellent boxer, and Conceicao has done a good job, although the statistics do not favor him at all, the numbers can also have their own faults, but it fails in itself, but in what in this case nothing is written, there is the surprise factor, and if the odds and obviously the bets are going to focus on Shakur, I do not want to imagine the amount of money that anyone who bets on Conceicao will win a large amount of money and also the boxer He would be positioning himself as one of the best that have entered the ring, in the same way, this fight is still missing, any data is good as the date approaches to make the best decision.

^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer. Though this is just a title defense fight, this fight is also an important step for his career as he will gain more experience from Robson and this fight will open more doors for him. Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession.

Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

I don't know who is the manager of Joe Cordina but his promoter is Eddie Hearn, they are already eyeing for Shakur Stevenson next because the latter holds the WBC and WBO but the deal is still blurred because Bob Arum has also issues with the Matchroom boxing which is also under Eddie Hearn. I can remember that Bob Arum says that the Matchroom cannot produce many viewers that's why the fight won't be profitable.

There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

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September 02, 2022, 09:44:01 AM
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There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare.

But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately.

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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer. Though this is just a title defense fight, this fight is also an important step for his career as he will gain more experience from Robson and this fight will open more doors for him. Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession.

Yes, same here, Shakur have a good chance to win against Robson, but he will have to train very hard and not slack because Robson is a tough boxer. Shakur boxing skills is just way above the current champion here, including lights out Joe Cordina. That will be a explosive fight as well even a match with Hector Garcia who recently beat former champion Roger Gutierrez  to get the WBA belt. So this are the 2 boxers that he need to beat to become the undisputed champion in the super featherweight.

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September 02, 2022, 12:54:50 PM
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There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare.

But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately.

Robson and Shakur both have a very good track record when it comes to their fights.
As of right now, Shakur has fought 18 fights and hasn't lost a single one of them.
As well as Robson, he also fought 18 times. As of right now, he has 17 wins and one loss to his name.

It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper. It is true that, at the same time, it does seem like the pendulum is a little bit heavy towards Shakur's side at the moment. But that does not mean Shakur is going to be the winner. There is no doubt that both fighters are very capable and that this is going to be a very interesting fight between them.

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September 02, 2022, 02:49:45 PM
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It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper.

Nah, it will not be a close fight because as we can see on the betting odds below, Shakur Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win the fight.

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Boxer   Vegas Odds
Shakur Stevenson   -2000
Robson Conceicao   +1000
https://www.vegasodds.com/news/boxing-shakur-stevenson-vs-robson-conceicao-preview-vegas-odds-pick/

The odds clearly tells who will win here, if this is an upset, well, bettors who would favor Robson Conceicao to win will enjoy that +1000 odds.

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September 02, 2022, 05:37:06 PM
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Indeed, today the bookmakers have a clear favorite Stevenson, and it seems to me that if this changes closer to the start of the fight, it is not in favor of Conceicao, the more interesting the bets will be, because the most sophisticated and experienced boxer can miss.
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September 02, 2022, 07:10:08 PM
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The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.
That's his skills, he moves quick and he is not a knockout artist so he will be able to conserve his energy well. He is more like a technical fighter, knows how and when to attack, so this one should be another walk in the park fight.  Smiley

That's likely going to happen but we should refrain from using that term as we would be underestimating Robson that much if we say that this fight would be a piece of cake for Shakur, even if we know that Shakur truly has the odds in his side.

Surely Shakur himself knows that he ain't the KO artist type but it's quite certain that he will pursue other ways to bring the fight into his favor (fairly) and improve his scores as the fight likely ends in a decision.

very high possibility that shakur will win on this fight. however, if you will bet on him right now, the odds is just like 1.05x, which is not worth if you are betting small. no other betting lines yet are available. maybe, couple of weeks from now, bookies will open more betting lines for this match, like the winning method and if the fight will go the distance. i guess, those betting lines are better to put your money into and try your luck.

Right now is not the best time to place a bet for this fight, it's still too early. I reckon it would be more suitable to bet somewhere like 48 hours before the fight starts and I usually do that but if the odds aren't that tempting to see then I think I'll pass on this fight but I will watch this of course, it's great to see younger boxers making their way to be known in the industry.
Unless you are a fan of Robson, then it's better to place a bet on him ML as the odds are very attractive.

But if you are a Shakur fan, yes, I do agree, it's better to wait for the fight to get close. For sure there will be a lot of betting options for us, like by per round, or round range.

Although when we look a the schedule of this fight, it's 3 weeks from now and for sure the hype is also building specially that this fight is going to happen on Shakur's hometown.

Actually, it is not totally a bad idea if we consider on throwing some few spare bucks on Robson because we never know, he might be hailed as the winner at the end of the fight Grin I'm just saying because I'm also thinking about it as there could be upsets lurking somewhere and this fight is not safe of an upset either.

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September 03, 2022, 05:29:15 AM
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Indeed, today the bookmakers have a clear favorite Stevenson, and it seems to me that if this changes closer to the start of the fight, it is not in favor of Conceicao, the more interesting the bets will be, because the most sophisticated and experienced boxer can miss.

Bookmakers seldom make mistakes. The odds difference went this far mainly because of these reasons;
1. Robson Conceicao is not a KO artist. Being heavy-handed is the major cause of boxing upsets as per common boxing saying that it would only take one punch to change the outcome of a fight.
2. Shakur Stevenson is a very technical fighter and is hard to get hit, this would further eliminate further the small chance of an upset as Conceicao is already a light puncher.
3. Shakur is the A-side fighter. Groomed by Top Rank as its next superstar and pound-for-pound fighter, like its former and present fighters De La Hoya, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto, Crawford, Lomachenko, Inoue, and Fury. Close rounds will surely be given to Shakur, even probably not that close rounds for as long as he is not that dominated.
4. Last but not the least, Conceicao is fighting not just in Shakur's state of New Jersey but in his own backyard in Newark. In boxing, controversial hometown decisions happens and are even very common especially in Thailand and South Africa.

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September 03, 2022, 10:41:26 PM
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Indeed, today the bookmakers have a clear favorite Stevenson, and it seems to me that if this changes closer to the start of the fight, it is not in favor of Conceicao, the more interesting the bets will be, because the most sophisticated and experienced boxer can miss.

Bookmakers seldom make mistakes. The odds difference went this far mainly because of these reasons;
1. Robson Conceicao is not a KO artist. Being heavy-handed is the major cause of boxing upsets as per common boxing saying that it would only take one punch to change the outcome of a fight.
2. Shakur Stevenson is a very technical fighter and is hard to get hit, this would further eliminate further the small chance of an upset as Conceicao is already a light puncher.
3. Shakur is the A-side fighter. Groomed by Top Rank as its next superstar and pound-for-pound fighter, like its former and present fighters De La Hoya, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto, Crawford, Lomachenko, Inoue, and Fury. Close rounds will surely be given to Shakur, even probably not that close rounds for as long as he is not that dominated.
4. Last but not the least, Conceicao is fighting not just in Shakur's state of New Jersey but in his own backyard in Newark. In boxing, controversial hometown decisions happens and are even very common especially in Thailand and South Africa.

And to sum it up, Shakur is unbeaten so definitely bookmakers are going to put him as the favourite in this fight. We might as well call this fight a cherry pick for Shakur based on the odds, hehehe. Bookmakers are not giving any chance for Conceicao to win this fight, but it is what it is. He definitely had all the tools and beat presumably one of the best in this division in Valdez (and probably the 2 other champions.)

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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.

If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

For sure, he is being trained by his grand father Wali Moses, so he is as old school as other trainer as you can get. Meaning, he would rather have his prize pupil to chase history first and not go for the money. Making a name at 130 lbs and having all the belts will be the best thing that Shakur could accomplished. So at least before he goes to the next weight class, he will be respected as he had the 4 belts including the lineal. And then he can go and fight Davis and whoever the champions at 135 lbs.

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September 05, 2022, 05:53:59 PM
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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.

If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

For sure, he is being trained by his grand father Wali Moses, so he is as old school as other trainer as you can get. Meaning, he would rather have his prize pupil to chase history first and not go for the money. Making a name at 130 lbs and having all the belts will be the best thing that Shakur could accomplished. So at least before he goes to the next weight class, he will be respected as he had the 4 belts including the lineal. And then he can go and fight Davis and whoever the champions at 135 lbs.

That will be much better for Stevenson, he should sought meaningful fights first to get his name carved in the industry because money will always follow wherever you will go if you will be a successful boxer in your division. He already have 2 belts in his possession and he should go for another title fight to add more belts after this title defense. I have no doubts as well that he'll have such hard time because Robson is not a KO artist, so this fight should go smoothly in Shakur's favor.

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September 05, 2022, 11:59:23 PM
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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.

If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

For sure, he is being trained by his grand father Wali Moses, so he is as old school as other trainer as you can get. Meaning, he would rather have his prize pupil to chase history first and not go for the money. Making a name at 130 lbs and having all the belts will be the best thing that Shakur could accomplished. So at least before he goes to the next weight class, he will be respected as he had the 4 belts including the lineal. And then he can go and fight Davis and whoever the champions at 135 lbs.

That will be much better for Stevenson, he should sought meaningful fights first to get his name carved in the industry because money will always follow wherever you will go if you will be a successful boxer in your division. He already have 2 belts in his possession and he should go for another title fight to add more belts after this title defense. I have no doubts as well that he'll have such hard time because Robson is not a KO artist, so this fight should go smoothly in Shakur's favor.

Yes, and everything is on Shakur's favour, and his power is under rated, but it has enough to bring someone down, or at least they can felt his power. And the other 2 belt holder in this division, Shakur has also the advantage over them. So we shouldn't be surprised if he gets all the 4 belts easy next year and then goes up but not vacant the belt because he has to test the water first at 135 lbs. So he has options to go down again and defend the belt at 130. Although it might be difficult to defend all the belts because of organizations different rankings and other factors, he might have to relinquish some of them just like what Josh Taylor did after unifying all the belts in 140 lbs division.

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September 06, 2022, 01:21:42 AM
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Shakur just keeps getting better he is good in defense and offense although he lacks in power, I agree that he should be in the top list of pounds for pound Robson Conceicao is a good fighter but no way he can beat Shakur, it's only a matter of time before he rules the Super featherweight/Junior lightweight (130 lb/59 kg) because all the champions in other organizations like Gutiérrez and Cordina can't match his skill, so I bet Shakur Stevenson to win the bout via knock out.

It's only a few weeks from the announced date of their fight and most of the bets are really for Shakur because of his performance in his previous matches. It's no news that Shakur has the power and ability to knockout his opponent, only that sometimes, he lack the good combination that could easily overthrow his opponent. Other than that, he's a good fighter and has really proven himself with his track record of 18-0 and 9 of which are knockouts. This is impressive and you can easily know his strength based on his history in fighting which makes the odd of this fight in favor of him. Some even predicted that he will win via knockout, but I guess let's just wait and see.

Meanwhile, Conceicao is also a good boxer but not really in par as of now with his opponent. He had won a gold medal in Olympics boxing in year 2016 which made him set his name shine in boxing. He has a good track record as well. However, in his recent fight he lost to Valdez with a very few difference in score. That fight wasn't really favorable for him because it tainted his record, but nonetheless, he is determined to bounce back and have a fight once again to reputable boxer, Shakur. I was impressed of his politeness during his interview. Certainly, he had prepared enough and isn't going to back down during their fight this month. These boxers are not really super famous compared to the widely-known boxers, but surely their respective fans will watch their upcoming game in the arena.
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September 06, 2022, 05:07:27 PM
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There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare.

But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately.

Robson and Shakur both have a very good track record when it comes to their fights.
As of right now, Shakur has fought 18 fights and hasn't lost a single one of them.
As well as Robson, he also fought 18 times. As of right now, he has 17 wins and one loss to his name.

It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper. It is true that, at the same time, it does seem like the pendulum is a little bit heavy towards Shakur's side at the moment. But that does not mean Shakur is going to be the winner. There is no doubt that both fighters are very capable and that this is going to be a very interesting fight between them.

Yes, they both have a good record in their respective career but we cannot really base everything in the paper as that's not how the winner of the fight is decided and perhaps watching their recent performances will help us to see who will likely dominate. Also, based on that, I think we can quite assume that it will be Shakur. But yes, it's not decided yet, so let's see it together in the day of their fight.

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September 06, 2022, 05:24:21 PM
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There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare.

But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately.

Robson and Shakur both have a very good track record when it comes to their fights.
As of right now, Shakur has fought 18 fights and hasn't lost a single one of them.
As well as Robson, he also fought 18 times. As of right now, he has 17 wins and one loss to his name.

It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper. It is true that, at the same time, it does seem like the pendulum is a little bit heavy towards Shakur's side at the moment. But that does not mean Shakur is going to be the winner. There is no doubt that both fighters are very capable and that this is going to be a very interesting fight between them.

Yes, they both have a good record in their respective career but we cannot really base everything in the paper as that's not how the winner of the fight is decided and perhaps watching their recent performances will help us to see who will likely dominate. Also, based on that, I think we can quite assume that it will be Shakur. But yes, it's not decided yet, so let's see it together in the day of their fight.

Robson is good though and I think he deserves some credit for what he did because he reached this far but we can't really deny the fact that Shakur might just add another defeat in his record because Shakur will just pass by in this stage for him to get that fight he wanted against Joe Cordina who holds the IBF belt.

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September 07, 2022, 06:10:48 PM
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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.

If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

For sure, he is being trained by his grand father Wali Moses, so he is as old school as other trainer as you can get. Meaning, he would rather have his prize pupil to chase history first and not go for the money. Making a name at 130 lbs and having all the belts will be the best thing that Shakur could accomplished. So at least before he goes to the next weight class, he will be respected as he had the 4 belts including the lineal. And then he can go and fight Davis and whoever the champions at 135 lbs.

That will be much better for Stevenson, he should sought meaningful fights first to get his name carved in the industry because money will always follow wherever you will go if you will be a successful boxer in your division. He already have 2 belts in his possession and he should go for another title fight to add more belts after this title defense. I have no doubts as well that he'll have such hard time because Robson is not a KO artist, so this fight should go smoothly in Shakur's favor.

Yes, and everything is on Shakur's favour, and his power is under rated, but it has enough to bring someone down, or at least they can felt his power. And the other 2 belt holder in this division, Shakur has also the advantage over them. So we shouldn't be surprised if he gets all the 4 belts easy next year and then goes up but not vacant the belt because he has to test the water first at 135 lbs. So he has options to go down again and defend the belt at 130. Although it might be difficult to defend all the belts because of organizations different rankings and other factors, he might have to relinquish some of them just like what Josh Taylor did after unifying all the belts in 140 lbs division.

Yes, there is indeed a high chance that he will be an undisputed boxer in his chosen division next year, there's no need to rush anything because everything is all in his favor. What he need to do now is to focus everything he got in this title defense against Robson because he can't be looking in the future if he can't overcome what is in the present situation, but anyway, I'm expecting that he won't have some hard time in this fight at all and then fight Joe next for the IBF title.

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September 07, 2022, 06:41:25 PM
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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.

If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

For sure, he is being trained by his grand father Wali Moses, so he is as old school as other trainer as you can get. Meaning, he would rather have his prize pupil to chase history first and not go for the money. Making a name at 130 lbs and having all the belts will be the best thing that Shakur could accomplished. So at least before he goes to the next weight class, he will be respected as he had the 4 belts including the lineal. And then he can go and fight Davis and whoever the champions at 135 lbs.

That will be much better for Stevenson, he should sought meaningful fights first to get his name carved in the industry because money will always follow wherever you will go if you will be a successful boxer in your division. He already have 2 belts in his possession and he should go for another title fight to add more belts after this title defense. I have no doubts as well that he'll have such hard time because Robson is not a KO artist, so this fight should go smoothly in Shakur's favor.

Yes, and everything is on Shakur's favour, and his power is under rated, but it has enough to bring someone down, or at least they can felt his power. And the other 2 belt holder in this division, Shakur has also the advantage over them. So we shouldn't be surprised if he gets all the 4 belts easy next year and then goes up but not vacant the belt because he has to test the water first at 135 lbs. So he has options to go down again and defend the belt at 130. Although it might be difficult to defend all the belts because of organizations different rankings and other factors, he might have to relinquish some of them just like what Josh Taylor did after unifying all the belts in 140 lbs division.

Yes, there is indeed a high chance that he will be an undisputed boxer in his chosen division next year, there's no need to rush anything because everything is all in his favor. What he need to do now is to focus everything he got in this title defense against Robson because he can't be looking in the future if he can't overcome what is in the present situation, but anyway, I'm expecting that he won't have some hard time in this fight at all and then fight Joe next for the IBF title.


He needs to protect his belt first before planning for another title chase or defense, maybe the idea of moving will also considerable in terms of more belts around him, he can do that as we know how good and skillful, he is in this sport, all h have to do now is to be well-prepared when stepping inside the and fighting against Robson, maybe if he can add some exciting finished it will hype up his name and more money fight will be on his way.

His achievements are good and he can add more since he is an active fighter with IQ and skills, he and his camp explore if ever they
are ready to move up and challenge new fighters from another divisions.

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September 07, 2022, 06:54:16 PM
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There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare.

But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately.

Robson and Shakur both have a very good track record when it comes to their fights.
As of right now, Shakur has fought 18 fights and hasn't lost a single one of them.
As well as Robson, he also fought 18 times. As of right now, he has 17 wins and one loss to his name.

It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper. It is true that, at the same time, it does seem like the pendulum is a little bit heavy towards Shakur's side at the moment. But that does not mean Shakur is going to be the winner. There is no doubt that both fighters are very capable and that this is going to be a very interesting fight between them.

Yes, they both have a good record in their respective career but we cannot really base everything in the paper as that's not how the winner of the fight is decided and perhaps watching their recent performances will help us to see who will likely dominate. Also, based on that, I think we can quite assume that it will be Shakur. But yes, it's not decided yet, so let's see it together in the day of their fight.

Robson is good though and I think he deserves some credit for what he did because he reached this far but we can't really deny the fact that Shakur might just add another defeat in his record because Shakur will just pass by in this stage for him to get that fight he wanted against Joe Cordina who holds the IBF belt.

Indeed! Robson won't be fighting Shakur if there is completely no chance that he can defeat the latter but there's really a high percentage of chance that Shakur will victorious here but as I said, we are only limited to make some speculations as we will only know the real score at the day of their fight.

And if Shakur is truly the winner then it's quite safe to assume that he will go for Cordina next.

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September 08, 2022, 12:55:01 PM
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The survey is getting weird here. At the start, I'm pretty sure that the majority voted for Shakur to win by decision, but now we have a couple more votes for Shakur to win by knockout. Interesting because Shakur right now has a 50% KO ratio just like Conceicao. We'll see if Shakur's KO ratio will become higher than 50% or if it will drop.

And so I just found out that Conceicao is an Olympic gold medalist. Wtf! I missed something then. I knew he was an Olympian before just like Valdez but I never realized he is that special. So it seems like Conceicao is being underestimated here although I still agree that he is an underdog due to the reasons I mentioned earlier. Nonetheless, we are having an Olympic gold medalist in Conceicao versus an Olympic silver medalist, Shakur.

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September 08, 2022, 01:28:51 PM
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The survey is getting weird here. At the start, I'm pretty sure that the majority voted for Shakur to win by decision, but now we have a couple more votes for Shakur to win by knockout. Interesting because Shakur right now has a 50% KO ratio just like Conceicao. We'll see if Shakur's KO ratio will become higher than 50% or if it will drop.

And so I just found out that Conceicao is an Olympic gold medalist. Wtf! I missed something then. I knew he was an Olympian before just like Valdez but I never realized he is that special. So it seems like Conceicao is being underestimated here although I still agree that he is an underdog due to the reasons I mentioned earlier. Nonetheless, we are having an Olympic gold medalist in Conceicao versus an Olympic silver medalist, Shakur.
I think the vast of majority people want to see KO result even though Shakur isn't a KO artist, this will also proving Shakur is better than Conceicao since people thought Shakur won against Valdez isn't proving that.

Yep Conceicao have an Olympic gold medal on 2016, World championship silver and bronze medal on 2013 and 2015, and silver Pan American silver medal on 2011. But honestly, it's much easier than getting a world belt since the opponent I see are unknown. IMO the medal he got isn't really make he's a tough boxer.

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September 08, 2022, 02:31:50 PM
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Yep Conceicao have an Olympic gold medal on 2016, World championship silver and bronze medal on 2013 and 2015, and silver Pan American silver medal on 2011. But honestly, it's much easier than getting a world belt since the opponent I see are unknown. IMO the medal he got isn't really make he's a tough boxer.

That's what makes this fight special because both of them are somewhat the same in terms of their strength but only Robson has less experience fighting in a professional bout which gives Shakur a slight advantage. But in terms of winning percentage via knockout, they are the same, and only those who have some special skills will be an advantage and have a higher chance to win. That's why Shakur has earned more votes to K.O his opponent.

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September 08, 2022, 02:49:24 PM
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Yep Conceicao have an Olympic gold medal on 2016, World championship silver and bronze medal on 2013 and 2015, and silver Pan American silver medal on 2011. But honestly, it's much easier than getting a world belt since the opponent I see are unknown. IMO the medal he got isn't really make he's a tough boxer.

That's what makes this fight special because both of them are somewhat the same in terms of their strength but only Robson has less experience fighting in a professional bout which gives Shakur a slight advantage. But in terms of winning percentage via knockout, they are the same, and only those who have some special skills will be an advantage and have a higher chance to win. That's why Shakur has earned more votes to K.O his opponent.
If we based ok experience especially in bigger fight then shakur the favorite it because he already experienced professional fights but in reality, we don't based on their achievements but we base on their strength, power and speed or in short we are focusing their skills and as we saw both fighters has a good record in their career. But in this fight ill go for Robson because  based on his skills then he has a chance to win this fight .

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September 08, 2022, 03:56:41 PM
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Yep Conceicao have an Olympic gold medal on 2016, World championship silver and bronze medal on 2013 and 2015, and silver Pan American silver medal on 2011. But honestly, it's much easier than getting a world belt since the opponent I see are unknown. IMO the medal he got isn't really make he's a tough boxer.

That's what makes this fight special because both of them are somewhat the same in terms of their strength but only Robson has less experience fighting in a professional bout which gives Shakur a slight advantage. But in terms of winning percentage via knockout, they are the same, and only those who have some special skills will be an advantage and have a higher chance to win. That's why Shakur has earned more votes to K.O his opponent.

I don't think they have the strength though, yes Robson gave Oscar Valdez one of his toughest fight but it doesn't mean it will be very close as well against Shakur. Stevenson is not a straight up knockout artist though, it's his body punch that knockout his opponent. But he is very good is like softening his opponent with pot shots to the head, while Robson will straight away look for a knockout punch.

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September 08, 2022, 08:20:32 PM
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It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper.
Nah, it will not be a close fight because as we can see on the betting odds below, Shakur Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win the fight.
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Boxer   Vegas Odds
Shakur Stevenson   -2000
Robson Conceicao   +1000
https://www.vegasodds.com/news/boxing-shakur-stevenson-vs-robson-conceicao-preview-vegas-odds-pick/
The odds clearly tells who will win here, if this is an upset, well, bettors who would favor Robson Conceicao to win will enjoy that +1000 odds.

I know that the odds suggest that Shakur is going to be the winner of this fight. Better obviously we cannot absolutely give no chance to Robson. He is a very capable fighter. But honestly, I think in this fight Shakur is going to be having the edge over his opponent. And the odds also look quite justifiable. I don't expect this to be a very close fight. But at the same time, I also don't expect this to be a walk in the park for Shakur.


The survey is getting weird here. At the start, I'm pretty sure that the majority voted for Shakur to win by decision, but now we have a couple more votes for Shakur to win by knockout. Interesting because Shakur right now has a 50% KO ratio just like Conceicao. We'll see if Shakur's KO ratio will become higher than 50% or if it will drop.

And so I just found out that Conceicao is an Olympic gold medalist. Wtf! I missed something then. I knew he was an Olympian before just like Valdez but I never realized he is that special. So it seems like Conceicao is being underestimated here although I still agree that he is an underdog due to the reasons I mentioned earlier. Nonetheless, we are having an Olympic gold medalist in Conceicao versus an Olympic silver medalist, Shakur.
I think the vast of majority people want to see KO result even though Shakur isn't a KO artist, this will also proving Shakur is better than Conceicao since people thought Shakur won against Valdez isn't proving that.

Yep Conceicao have an Olympic gold medal on 2016, World championship silver and bronze medal on 2013 and 2015, and silver Pan American silver medal on 2011. But honestly, it's much easier than getting a world belt since the opponent I see are unknown. IMO the medal he got isn't really make he's a tough boxer.

Oh, and I also want to point out that obviously having a considerable amount of medals does not make one a better fighter. In spite of that, the medals do have some weight behind them. It is true that they mean something to us. If that had not been the case, those medals would have been given away for free. There is going to be a lot of action in this fight. Personally, I do see this fight going to the judge's scorecard. I really hardly believe that we might get a knockout result in this match, especially from Shakur.

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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I think we have a discussion that Shakur could clean up this division first or unify all the belts. But it seems that this might not be the plan after this fight with Robson.

If he can't squeeze 130 lbs in that body so there's no need to force him and still fight in this division. It might backfire on him as weight is a big issues for boxers. So yeah, he is all welcome to come in the next great weight class (besides the super welterweight).

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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

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September 09, 2022, 04:58:08 PM
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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I think we have a discussion that Shakur could clean up this division first or unify all the belts. But it seems that this might not be the plan after this fight with Robson.

If he can't squeeze 130 lbs in that body so there's no need to force him and still fight in this division. It might backfire on him as weight is a big issues for boxers. So yeah, he is all welcome to come in the next great weight class (besides the super welterweight).

That is the original plan and it will be pursued if Shakur can find some good way to keep his body at 130 lbs., but if ever he can't force his body anymore then it will be best for him to move to a higher weight class while he is still young because he will still struggle the same issues when he grows older. Besides, he is welcome to try fighting at 135 lbs. where Tank is situated.

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September 09, 2022, 07:59:06 PM
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Yep Conceicao have an Olympic gold medal on 2016, World championship silver and bronze medal on 2013 and 2015, and silver Pan American silver medal on 2011. But honestly, it's much easier than getting a world belt since the opponent I see are unknown. IMO the medal he got isn't really make he's a tough boxer.

That's what makes this fight special because both of them are somewhat the same in terms of their strength but only Robson has less experience fighting in a professional bout which gives Shakur a slight advantage. But in terms of winning percentage via knockout, they are the same, and only those who have some special skills will be an advantage and have a higher chance to win. That's why Shakur has earned more votes to K.O his opponent.
If we based ok experience especially in bigger fight then shakur the favorite it because he already experienced professional fights but in reality, we don't based on their achievements but we base on their strength, power and speed or in short we are focusing their skills and as we saw both fighters has a good record in their career. But in this fight ill go for Robson because  based on his skills then he has a chance to win this fight .

Maybe he can as the possibilities are always open to each fighters during the match, we don't know if how they prepared for this fight and most of the time upset and surprises happens when the two fighters are throwing punches, so far the chance are equal and even bookies gives their side to whoever they think got the upper hands we can't conclude the outcome of this fight. We can give our opinions based on how we review previous fights and statistics and most of the time we favor the fighter that we follow.

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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.
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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.

Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.

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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.

Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.

There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis.

He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank.
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^^ Yes, for sure a lot of good options for him. Doesn't necessarily fighting Tank at 135 lbs, as you have said, Rolly Romero and Isaac Cruz or even Jojo Diaz and then number 6 William Zepeda. So far 135 lbs looks like this:

Haney
Loma
Davis
Kambosos
Ryan Garcia

And then the fighter that I mentioned in the top 6 to 11-15.

But we will have to wait for the result of this fight first. Shakur should focus on Robson before he talks about fighting Tank in 135 lbs.

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^^ Yes, for sure a lot of good options for him. Doesn't necessarily fighting Tank at 135 lbs, as you have said, Rolly Romero and Isaac Cruz or even Jojo Diaz and then number 6 William Zepeda. So far 135 lbs looks like this:

Haney
Loma
Davis
Kambosos
Ryan Garcia

And then the fighter that I mentioned in the top 6 to 11-15.

But we will have to wait for the result of this fight first. Shakur should focus on Robson before he talks about fighting Tank in 135 lbs.

Jojo Diaz could be a tailor made fight for Shakur at 135, in paper Diaz seems to be very good and a contender. But I think Shakur can beat him hands down.

Isaac Cruz and Rolly Romero might be dangerous for him because both have power in hands. Rolly Romero is awkward and might throw him off because he can find his spot, same as with Isaac Cruz. Those overhead shots might find it's target but Shakur can weathered that storm and win by decision.

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Judging by the bookmakers' bets on this fight, Stevenson looks like a clear favorite and, as it seems to me objectively, he is 8 years younger than Conceicao, while they have the same experience in professional boxing, Stevenson is more technical and hardy, so Conceicao has very slim chances.

Yeah, I also check the odds and there are no chances, Stevenson is way ahead is sport bookies and there is no value bet on him on the ML odds. And Stevenson has all the tolls and advantage in this fight. I just want Robson though to give Shakur all he can take, Herring and Valdez I would say is a clear and dominant win by Shakur. So hopefully we will see him react is push comes to shove. Robson can do that similar to what he did against Oscar Valdez and almost won that fight.

Well as I said before, sometimes the statistics and numbers can be seen in a very optimistic way, but when I see something like that, and see so much difference, before making a determination, what I do is verify all the pertinent information and that I can get from the boxers, if there are interviews too, incredible things happen in the interviews because they give details of their training, they say how and how many hours a day they train, and I am in favor of a boxer who is very constant with his training and who If you have more hours of it, it is very likely that you will win, I know, because I also practiced contact sports, and when a training session is superior, it weighs heavily on the rival.

As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.

Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.
The truth is I don't think he has signed an agreement with May, however for me Shakur has a very high level compared to the other boxers and he has shown it in his fights, there is no need to try to say what he has achieved because his reputation speaks for itself, whoever he is going to be with will still have many victories to live, now with Conceicao I would not say that it is an easy fight, the boxer knows very well that he should not go for a quick knockout because Shakur clearly will not leave and I think that he has enough preparation not to let himself be given something like that, therefore Conceicao will have to have a better strategy to face him, since what is being measured here is the intelligence of each one.

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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.

Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.

There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis.

He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank.

It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division.

Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia.

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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.

Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.

There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis.

He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank.

It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division.

Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia.

Well said, but as of now, it is not clear yet that Shakur is indeed having some troubles keeping his weight inside 130 lbs. and we will know soon if that news is true in their upcoming weight in as we will likely have the information we are trying to find regarding that issue.

It's much better if he can maintain his weight until we can witness an undisputed fight in super-featherweight before he moves in lightweight division.

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September 15, 2022, 03:40:33 AM
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There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare.

But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately.
Well, maybe betting everything on Conceicao is a bit irreverent with the statistics, but I know that anything can happen in favor of either of them, Shakur without a doubt when making a bet, he will have many scores in his favor, instead the bet in favor of Conceicao will be very low, which means that if he wins, he can take a good turn in terms of the payment of said winning bet, but this is something that goes beyond emotions, perhaps the reason in That moment may not be in its total balance, but what I do not want is for this fight to become in a very technical sense, where the judges have to give their final verdict.

As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.

Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.

There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis.

He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank.

It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division.

Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia.

Well, I see the Gervonta Davis thing as too rushed, for me apart from the fact that it is going from one category to another where he has not received the weight of the blows of that category, it seems to me somewhat daring to go for Gervonta Davis once, he has experience and for It would be great to be able to measure himself against such a fight, the advantage will obviously be Gervonta Davis, I don't know what strategy he can offer, if I were a boxer it would take at least a month to adapt to the weight, to adapt to the type of training that is much stronger For the one in the lighter weight category, it would really seem very risky to do so.

As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.

Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.

There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis.

He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank.

It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division.

Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia.

Well said, but as of now, it is not clear yet that Shakur is indeed having some troubles keeping his weight inside 130 lbs. and we will know soon if that news is true in their upcoming weight in as we will likely have the information we are trying to find regarding that issue.

It's much better if he can maintain his weight until we can witness an undisputed fight in super-featherweight before he moves in lightweight division.

For me, Shakur has great potential, I think if he can keep 130 pounds because he won't be able to give him the pleasure of losing to Conceicao for something like that, this article refers to what is in context:


Shakur Stevenson Uncertain If He’ll Remain At 130 Pounds After Conceicao Fight

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“We gotta see,” Stevenson told BoxingScene.com before a recent press conference at Prudential Center. “It’s all up in the air right now. It’s all depending on how I’m feeling. Going up to 135 is not out the way and staying at 130 is not out the way. It’s all depending on what I feel and how I feel after this fight. So, we’re gonna see. Maybe I’ll go up to 135 for one fight, and then come back down to 130. You never know. I can play with it like that. I feel like I’m that good.”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918

For me Shakur has a lot to offer, I think this is one of the reasons why he wants to gain weight and move up a category, however this shows that he wants to do things well and at a high level, my admiration for him, I hope things can turn out well for him, moving up a category can be difficult for a boxer, he's not used to his weight.

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September 15, 2022, 06:32:50 AM
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^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob.

Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez?  shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.









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September 15, 2022, 11:50:40 AM
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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit.

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“It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907

And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes.

I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight.

And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up.

It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.

Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.

There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis.

He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank.

It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division.

Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia.

Well, I see the Gervonta Davis thing as too rushed, for me apart from the fact that it is going from one category to another where he has not received the weight of the blows of that category, it seems to me somewhat daring to go for Gervonta Davis once, he has experience and for It would be great to be able to measure himself against such a fight, the advantage will obviously be Gervonta Davis, I don't know what strategy he can offer, if I were a boxer it would take at least a month to adapt to the weight, to adapt to the type of training that is much stronger For the one in the lighter weight category, it would really seem very risky to do so.

Right? It's not good for him to keep on rushing things because that will just pave a way for his possible defeat and thinking that he can do the job done against Gervonta Davis during his debut in lightweight is much worse. Shakur is a decent boxer but he shouldn't force his luck just because he keeps on winning in super-featherweight now. His pretty record will be wasted if he won't test the water first.

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September 15, 2022, 02:15:52 PM
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^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob.

Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez?  shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.

Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best.

And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer.

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September 16, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
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^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob.

Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez?  shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.

Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best.

And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer.

Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already.

Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.

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September 16, 2022, 11:31:05 PM
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^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob.

Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez?  shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.

Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best.

And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer.

Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already.

Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight.

Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.

Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt.

And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis.

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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.

If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

For sure, he is being trained by his grand father Wali Moses, so he is as old school as other trainer as you can get. Meaning, he would rather have his prize pupil to chase history first and not go for the money. Making a name at 130 lbs and having all the belts will be the best thing that Shakur could accomplished. So at least before he goes to the next weight class, he will be respected as he had the 4 belts including the lineal. And then he can go and fight Davis and whoever the champions at 135 lbs.

Yes, 135 is what would be ideal, for me Shalkur is training with everything because he has a lot of motivation and there is nothing better than coming to a fight comfortable but not confident and with great motivation, what you say is true, the grandfather is coming of the old school and despite the fact that there are currently many methods to train and have the fastest and best results, the grandfather can teach him the traditional work with which he was trained for this type of fight, the truth is that I think that type of training it is superior to any other, without underestimating the current methods, they are also family and that gives it a different tint, nothing will be kept for your grandson to learn.

^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob.

Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez?  shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.

Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best.

And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer.

Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already.

Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight.

Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.

Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt.

And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis.
There are many speculations that occur around these two great boxers, for me Shakur is the undisputed favorite, but there is something that I have learned in sports and especially in boxing, it is that we cannot say who is going to win until he wins, So this means that each boxer has their plans, they are well built, the only thing missing is victory, because if not, it is like painting castles in the air, I have seen how boxers have done many ways to put together all their strategies and there is even a calendar, epro if they lose until then things come, the plans go to the ground and things go wrong, with respect to Conceicao, I think he could give a surprise, I don't know, I see him very safe and with a strong training, a very safe boxer It is more dangerous than one that has entered a lot.

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September 19, 2022, 05:11:22 PM
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^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob.

Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez?  shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.

Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best.

And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer.

Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already.

Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight.

Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.

Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt.

And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis.
There are many speculations that occur around these two great boxers, for me Shakur is the undisputed favorite, but there is something that I have learned in sports and especially in boxing, it is that we cannot say who is going to win until he wins, So this means that each boxer has their plans, they are well built, the only thing missing is victory, because if not, it is like painting castles in the air, I have seen how boxers have done many ways to put together all their strategies and there is even a calendar, epro if they lose until then things come, the plans go to the ground and things go wrong, with respect to Conceicao, I think he could give a surprise, I don't know, I see him very safe and with a strong training, a very safe boxer It is more dangerous than one that has entered a lot.

Exactly the reason why we are here in this thread discussing and speculating on what will be the nearest possible outcome of the fight, we cannot hide the fact the Shakur here has the upper hand compared to Robson and we can say that because Shakur undoubtedly defeated Valdez while Robson fell short against Valdez. Sure, Robson has some chance but it's just low while Shakur needed to prove his strength again and why he has the belt and not Robson.

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September 20, 2022, 07:40:23 PM
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^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob.

Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez?  shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.

Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best.

And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer.

Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already.

Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight.

Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.

Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt.

And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis.
Might be the case but people already know that almost is still not enough and fact is Valdez still won the fight, while Shakur defeated Valdez dominantly just like how the scorecard says. Don't know what Robson thinks that he can give to Shakur this time but the latter is straight as an arrow, so I definitely bet that he won't give Robson a chance to stop him.

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And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis.
Well see it soon if Shakur is indeed struggling to fit himself in 130 pounds because I think that is just a plain rumor. Also, if Shakur decides to go straight to Tank Davis on his debut in lightweight, chances are high that Tank will just embarrass Shakur.

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September 21, 2022, 02:35:50 AM
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There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare.

But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately.

Robson and Shakur both have a very good track record when it comes to their fights.
As of right now, Shakur has fought 18 fights and hasn't lost a single one of them.
As well as Robson, he also fought 18 times. As of right now, he has 17 wins and one loss to his name.

It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper. It is true that, at the same time, it does seem like the pendulum is a little bit heavy towards Shakur's side at the moment. But that does not mean Shakur is going to be the winner. There is no doubt that both fighters are very capable and that this is going to be a very interesting fight between them.

Yes, they both have a good record in their respective career but we cannot really base everything in the paper as that's not how the winner of the fight is decided and perhaps watching their recent performances will help us to see who will likely dominate. Also, based on that, I think we can quite assume that it will be Shakur. But yes, it's not decided yet, so let's see it together in the day of their fight.

Well, the statistics may favor Shakur much more than Robson, but we all know very well that both boxers, at least for me, are at the same level, and this fight will bear very good fruit, because the bettors are active in everything, both in statistics As for the speculations of forums, of what they see on TV and on social networks, it is not because I go by the numbers or that I am a fan of the statistics, but I think that Shakur is the one who has the best chance of winning in this case, I don't know, I may be wrong, Robson's skills are very good too, it is difficult to establish which boxer has an advantage over the other.

^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob.

Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez?  shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.

Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best.

And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer.

Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already.

Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight.

Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.

Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt.

And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis.
There are many speculations that occur around these two great boxers, for me Shakur is the undisputed favorite, but there is something that I have learned in sports and especially in boxing, it is that we cannot say who is going to win until he wins, So this means that each boxer has their plans, they are well built, the only thing missing is victory, because if not, it is like painting castles in the air, I have seen how boxers have done many ways to put together all their strategies and there is even a calendar, epro if they lose until then things come, the plans go to the ground and things go wrong, with respect to Conceicao, I think he could give a surprise, I don't know, I see him very safe and with a strong training, a very safe boxer It is more dangerous than one that has entered a lot.

Exactly the reason why we are here in this thread discussing and speculating on what will be the nearest possible outcome of the fight, we cannot hide the fact the Shakur here has the upper hand compared to Robson and we can say that because Shakur undoubtedly defeated Valdez while Robson fell short against Valdez. Sure, Robson has some chance but it's just low while Shakur needed to prove his strength again and why he has the belt and not Robson.

It is like that, as you say, of course this is something that we speculate, but despite the fact that Shakur has all the advantage, both in probabilities, statistics, it seems that Valdez does not have much to offer, however I think that Valdez can surprise us, every boxer who is somewhat influential knows that what is being handled is a lot of money, if he manages to turn all those speculations around, we could talk about a whole betting romp, because only those who win are the most believers in Valdez, that would be something interesting, and I think that the world of boxing also deserves some kind of surprises like that.




Here is something that might interest you:

What is the fight card for Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao?



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There are a number of bouts set to take place on the fight card from the Prudential Center in New Jersey, including the return of Keyshawn Davis following his sixth-round TKO over Esteban Sanchez on the Oscar Valdez vs Stevenson card.

Source: https://www.givemesport.com/88061548-shakur-stevenson-vs-robson-conceicao-fight-card

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September 21, 2022, 08:05:02 PM
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There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.

Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare.

But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately.

Robson and Shakur both have a very good track record when it comes to their fights.
As of right now, Shakur has fought 18 fights and hasn't lost a single one of them.
As well as Robson, he also fought 18 times. As of right now, he has 17 wins and one loss to his name.

It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper. It is true that, at the same time, it does seem like the pendulum is a little bit heavy towards Shakur's side at the moment. But that does not mean Shakur is going to be the winner. There is no doubt that both fighters are very capable and that this is going to be a very interesting fight between them.

Yes, they both have a good record in their respective career but we cannot really base everything in the paper as that's not how the winner of the fight is decided and perhaps watching their recent performances will help us to see who will likely dominate. Also, based on that, I think we can quite assume that it will be Shakur. But yes, it's not decided yet, so let's see it together in the day of their fight.

Well, the statistics may favor Shakur much more than Robson, but we all know very well that both boxers, at least for me, are at the same level, and this fight will bear very good fruit, because the bettors are active in everything, both in statistics As for the speculations of forums, of what they see on TV and on social networks, it is not because I go by the numbers or that I am a fan of the statistics, but I think that Shakur is the one who has the best chance of winning in this case, I don't know, I may be wrong, Robson's skills are very good too, it is difficult to establish which boxer has an advantage over the other.

In short, may it statistics/paper or chances, Shakur Stevenson has the higher hand on this fight compared to Robson even if we say that he's somehow a decent boxer. We cannot possibly deny that Shakur might have this fight like he's not struggling at all, we may wrong but sticking to chances, there's a big percentage that we are correct.

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^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

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^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

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^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

That is a fact! Sports bookies are there to make some money out of the bettors while trying to confuse them, they are not there to make some losses. Anyway, I agree that it is not that surprising if Shakur will win, although his chances are not guaranteed as of now because there is always some chances of upset in any fight but that said chances are literally low and I have no doubt as well that he will.

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

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September 22, 2022, 08:04:02 PM
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^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

Sports bookies have their research done on every boxer, they also consider the recent fight of the boxer and the caliber of their opponents.  Aside from that, I think they have a hold of the information that is not visible to ordinary people such as punching strength, present condition, etc.  So when they put odds on the match they have these factors and variables and end up with the odds that is favorable to the person who has more chance of winning.  Not saying, they also have possible insiders that gather more information on each boxer.

It is no doubt that Robson will be the underdog here since comparing how the two perform against Oscar Valdez (though it doesn't actually do the math on who is better of the two) Stevenson has his easy way to victory while Conceicao has a difficult time and a "controversial" loss.

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September 22, 2022, 08:37:38 PM
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^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

That is a fact! Sports bookies are there to make some money out of the bettors while trying to confuse them, they are not there to make some losses. Anyway, I agree that it is not that surprising if Shakur will win, although his chances are not guaranteed as of now because there is always some chances of upset in any fight but that said chances are literally low and I have no doubt as well that he will.

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Bookies understand how they can attract bettors. They are there to earn and not to lose money. They've got a system that gives the basis why they place odds in different sports events. In terms of this upcoming fight, they see the advantages of how both fighters fought from their previous fights and they base the possibilities with the performances of each fighter.

Though there's no guarantee and in this sport upset is always possible to happen, so picking your fighters defends from how you see the potential or edge not just because it was bookies favorite.

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September 22, 2022, 09:12:52 PM
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There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

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Here is the final weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomQuc4oK1A

The thing is, Shakur come in at 131.6 lbs, over 1.6 lbs of the weight limit of 130 lbs. Conceicao came in at 129.6 lbs. And he didn't make a second weight to make 130 lbs, so it means he is going to lose the WBC and WBO strap in the scale.

And it also means that after this fight he will definitely go to 135 lbs. So it will be exciting, we have Davis, Garcia, Haney, Kambosos and then Shakur entering the mix.

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Here is the final weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomQuc4oK1A

The thing is, Shakur come in at 131.6 lbs, over 1.6 lbs of the weight limit of 130 lbs. Conceicao came in at 129.6 lbs. And he didn't make a second weight to make 130 lbs, so it means he is going to lose the WBC and WBO strap in the scale.

And it also means that after this fight he will definitely go to 135 lbs. So it will be exciting, we have Davis, Garcia, Haney, Kambosos and then Shakur entering the mix.

And it looks like Shakur is weight drain in this weigh-in? Doesn't the smile like Robson did. And to think that Robson is the taller, So we will see how Shakur will take this fight, maybe he knows that he will have a hard time shredding that extra 1.6 pounds so that he didn't bother to lose it.

And if Robson will upset him, definitely, he will have the belt. But if he losses, the belt is vacated so there could be another WBC and WBO title eliminator. And I think it will be Robson again vs Valdez.

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He doesn't care about those two belts anymore, if he did then he would try to make a second attempt because he will be given that time in like two hours to make 130 lbs.

Definitely Stevenson is looking to go up against the big boys at 135 lbs. Not sure if he can immediately jump to challenge Davis because they are in a different promotions.

And it will be more of a mental thing for Shakur, he already lost his belt so maybe there is pressure for him to at least give his fans a good showing.

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He doesn't care about those two belts anymore, if he did then he would try to make a second attempt because he will be given that time in like two hours to make 130 lbs.

Definitely Stevenson is looking to go up against the big boys at 135 lbs. Not sure if he can immediately jump to challenge Davis because they are in a different promotions.

And it will be more of a mental thing for Shakur, he already lost his belt so maybe there is pressure for him to at least give his fans a good showing.

He feel he may be weak during the fight if he forced himself to drain that excess baggage which for me is unprofessional on his side. His team should have known this even before the weigh in and do the necessary actions as to not compromise the championship belts. This only shows the lack of discipline on training this boxer had (just my thought), have seen Teofimo Lopez struggle or have weight problem but manage to made the scales against Kambosos.

On the brighter side, having Shakur on the lightweight division will add more excitement on this already entertaining division but i think he will start from scratch, i mean he will have to be a mandatory challenger for a title fight, championship fight will not be given to him i think. 

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So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

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So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.

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So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.
Yes, no more unification fight for him because his body can't make 130 lbs without problems. So instead of defending his belt and make the weight, he decided to relinquished his 2 titles in this fight. Not sure if Robso though feels disrespected, or maybe there is a clause in this fight about getting over the limit and that the other party will pay. Anyhow, the fight is just 2 days away so we will see Shakur last fight at 130 lbs and then move up next for a more lucrative division.

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These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

Or I guess we have the answers now. There will be unifying the other 2 belts are Shakur chooses to default his WBC/WBO belt because of the very reason that he can't make the weight no more at 130 lbs.

So when he jump to 135 lbs, it might be a tune up fight first, maybe rank 5-10 in the radar for him in this new division and see if he can cope with the power of a natural lightweight boxer. Shakur can't simply fight what he wanted, and that is Davis. He will have to go to a slow process before fighting Tank.

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Hours before the fight and this is the result of our poll here among Bitcointalk members

Stevenson by decision   - 9 (45%)
Conceicao by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Stevenson by KO/TKO   - 11 (55%)
Conceicao by KO/TKO   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 20

The community did not give Robson Conceicao even one vote, Shakur Stevenson made the right decision of not compromising his health to retain the title, he still has a lot of great fights to make in the future and he doesn't want to gamble with his health, he will be a champion again.

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So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.

Lots of boxers now have struggled to maintain their weight but it's always right moving up. Well, Shakur Stevenson is a great fighter, I'm sure he will become a champion again in a higher division, so it's alright if he will get stripped with his belt because fans understands he did not lose the fight.

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September 23, 2022, 02:24:37 PM
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So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.

Lots of boxers now have struggled to maintain their weight but it's always right moving up. Well, Shakur Stevenson is a great fighter, I'm sure he will become a champion again in a higher division, so it's alright if he will get stripped with his belt because fans understands he did not lose the fight.

The division he is picking for another quest is loaded with a lot of great boxers, Haney, Loma, Kambosos, and Garcia and now himself, this is going to be the division to watch, and many great fights if they all agreed will happen here, I have this feeling that the division will revolve on these names, I hope to see Shakur face off against Garcia they are two thrash talkers and a match up will generate excitement and of course a lot of thrashtalks.


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September 23, 2022, 06:59:56 PM
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There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

Too bad, Shakur won't be defending his belt anymore because he cannot meet the required weight, he exceeded almost 2 pounds with only few hours left from the weigh-in. Now, there's no holding him up from moving towards the lightweight division where there's money in almost every fight especially now that there's a lot of known good boxers in one stable.

I just really hope that he won't be greedy enough to get Davis in his first fight, I mean, I know Shakur can manage but his chances against Tank Davis is literally low especially now that he is not used fighting in 135 lbs. yet. It might be best for him to fight Garcia first, I'm quite sure that money will rain even in that fight.

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There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

Too bad, Shakur won't be defending his belt anymore because he cannot meet the required weight, he exceeded almost 2 pounds with only few hours left from the weigh-in. Now, there's no holding him up from moving towards the lightweight division where there's money in almost every fight especially now that there's a lot of known good boxers in one stable.

I just really hope that he won't be greedy enough to get Davis in his first fight, I mean, I know Shakur can manage but his chances against Tank Davis is literally low especially now that he is not used fighting in 135 lbs. yet. It might be best for him to fight Garcia first, I'm quite sure that money will rain even in that fight.

Better for him to start fighting non-popular boxers in the 135/140 division as a tune-up to see if he still has it in this new weight. He might be fast in the Super Featherweight but he can't be that fast when he moves up because of the added weight but I think he will adjust in future fights.

Back to his fight with Robson in the next few hours, i think there would ba a chance that he can knockout the lanky fighter since he will now be bigger and stronger, what do you think? Betting for him via knockout is @2.86 as of this writing, not bad and for me it is worth a try since i don't think Robson can beat him.

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September 23, 2022, 09:41:41 PM
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There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

Too bad, Shakur won't be defending his belt anymore because he cannot meet the required weight, he exceeded almost 2 pounds with only few hours left from the weigh-in. Now, there's no holding him up from moving towards the lightweight division where there's money in almost every fight especially now that there's a lot of known good boxers in one stable.

I think he made the right decision not to force his body in the second weigh in and try to meet the required weight as it could be disastrous to him.

I just really hope that he won't be greedy enough to get Davis in his first fight, I mean, I know Shakur can manage but his chances against Tank Davis is literally low especially now that he is not used fighting in 135 lbs. yet. It might be best for him to fight Garcia first, I'm quite sure that money will rain even in that fight.

I doubt that Floyd and his team will allow his price pupil to simply fight Shakur. They have been carefully match making Tank throughout his career building him up so they don't want to be simply destroyed by the rising Shakur. It's better for him to just have a tune up up in 135 lbs first.
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September 23, 2022, 09:46:07 PM
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It's interesting to know though that Robson could have gotten his full purse here if he refuses to fight Shakur because he is over the limit of 130 lbs. However, he decided to push with the fight and negotiate to get at least $50k more for Shakur not making the weight.

So it's good that he didn't take the easy route, easy money for him not taking the fight and then he will still have the chance as he is rated both number 2 by WBC and WBO, the belt being on the line here.

https://www.boxingscene.com/conceicao-ve-received-full-purse-he-decided-not-fight-overweight-stevenson--169250

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It is very disappointing to see a great boxer stripped of the title belt by scale.  Well, it is the boxer's camp fault, probably their camp is too relaxed to notice and maintain the weight of Shakur.  It is now interesting to see whether Conceicao will outperform the scale and beat Stevenson on their coming fight.

Too bad, Shakur won't be defending his belt anymore because he cannot meet the required weight, he exceeded almost 2 pounds with only few hours left from the weigh-in. Now, there's no holding him up from moving towards the lightweight division where there's money in almost every fight especially now that there's a lot of known good boxers in one stable.

I just really hope that he won't be greedy enough to get Davis in his first fight, I mean, I know Shakur can manage but his chances against Tank Davis is literally low especially now that he is not used fighting in 135 lbs. yet. It might be best for him to fight Garcia first, I'm quite sure that money will rain even in that fight.

Yeah, it is a shame that Shakur lost his belt against the scale, lol.  So it is a no-bearing fight for Stevenson but a unification fight for Conceical if he wins the fight.  It would be intersting to see if Stevenson moves in the upper division because it is where lots of great boxer are packed in.


I think he made the right decision not to force his body in the second weigh in and try to meet the required weight as it could be disastrous to him.

I believe he wanted to force it but his body weight cannot lose any more weight and meet the required weight limit. 

“Once you sitting in the tub and you see .4, and you’ve a whole pound left, you know right there that you can’t get to that weight,” said Shakur Stevenson to ESPN about his efforts to make weight for Thursday’s weigh-in.
“I spoke to my grandfather; I spoke to James Prince and Antonio Leonard. Everyone agreed with me. I told them, ‘I don’t think I can get to this weight. I put everything in my power.’

“They were right there with me for some of it, so they actually got to see the weight cut process. They agreed with me and told me that I shouldn’t put my health at risk trying to do something that really can’t be done.

“I know I did everything in my power to try and get to the weight. I just couldn’t. There’s nothing else,” said Shakur when asked if there was anything else he could have done to make weight. “When your body won’t create no sweat.

“That’s how you’re going to lose weight with the water that comes out of you. That, I worked out. There was nothing else I could have done. I ran, I worked out, and I got in the hot tub. I done so many different things in trying to make weight. My life is more important,” said Shakur.

This is kinda heartbreaking when he did all his best and yet can't get into the desired weight. 

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September 24, 2022, 05:18:16 AM
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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.


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September 24, 2022, 06:17:25 AM
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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.
There is a too much favor in scoring towards Shakur and indeed he showed great in this fight , going up to higher division will bring His career a chance to  change His image , but going now? while there are bigger name and best fighter in line? maybe this will bring him more challenge and risk of losing.
but being a boxer will give this a chance of a lifetime as he is not getting any younger and those 3 mentioned names are also in that same age bracket.
But congratulations to Shakur he really owe this fight.









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September 24, 2022, 09:02:31 AM
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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

Yes, mate it was a dominating win by Shakur, but he can't knockout Robson, although he score a body shot knock down. This version of him might not be enough for elite of 135 lbs. So yes, he will need to have a tune up fight first and see and feel the power of a true lightweight.

I'm thinking that Davis and Loma might just toy with him and he will be pot shot by Loma all day long. While Davis might be looking for a knock out if they fight.

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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.
Basing from the scores, (I haven't seen the match yet), it seems that Robson was really outclassed by Shakur in this fight although there is no knockout win for him.

Yes, this division is weak I might say, but the next one, it will be a very competitive weight class for him. As you have said, it's loaded with the likes of Haney, Davis, Loma, Garcia and George Kambosos. And I think if ever he fought any one of them, Shakur might experience his first lost.

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September 24, 2022, 12:39:24 PM
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And this win proved once again that Shakur is the best 130 lbs despite not unify the belts. But he holds the belt of WBC and WBO, two organizations that has the 'weight' as far as boxing goes. And since he can't make the weight limit and he says that this will be his last one and it was just fitting that he won against a tough and game Robson. So it's time for them to mix up and get the belt that Stevenson has vacated and so it open up another opportunity for Robson even if he lost this fight.
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September 24, 2022, 02:51:43 PM
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And this win proved once again that Shakur is the best 130 lbs despite not unify the belts. But he holds the belt of WBC and WBO, two organizations that has the 'weight' as far as boxing goes. And since he can't make the weight limit and he says that this will be his last one and it was just fitting that he won against a tough and game Robson. So it's time for them to mix up and get the belt that Stevenson has vacated and so it open up another opportunity for Robson even if he lost this fight.

No doubt about that, even Robson survive till the last round, but it was an obvious win for Shakur.

There's no doubt that he really achieved the best place in this division, but it's time for him to explore and weight up
to challenge other champion from another division. It would be nice to see who's going to be his opponent and if that
might be a title fight or an entry fight, then he will chase for the belt after.
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September 24, 2022, 03:42:01 PM
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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

Shakur made a good move on forfeiting the fight because he knows himself that he cannot shrink that 1.6 pounds in mere 2 hours before the official weigh-in, it could be a walk in the park for Shakur if he had made the required weight. The difference of their power is so evident, Robson doesn't stand a chance against Shakur and that's for real. Nevertheless, it was a good run and now it's time for him to take his power in lightweight division.

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September 24, 2022, 08:26:53 PM
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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

Shakur made a good move on forfeiting the fight because he knows himself that he cannot shrink that 1.6 pounds in mere 2 hours before the official weigh-in, it could be a walk in the park for Shakur if he had made the required weight. The difference of their power is so evident, Robson doesn't stand a chance against Shakur and that's for real. Nevertheless, it was a good run and now it's time for him to take his power in lightweight division.


As I have previously, it was a good decision on their side, nothing to regrets as he if shrink himself that 1.6 lbs, it can do damage to him. And it was evident that in the power department, Shakur has the advantage and that body shot really slow down Robson in the fight. Although he says that he will pull a surprised, there's nothing spectacular about him. Top tier boxers, he had difficulty, but probably he can beat the rest of the fighters in this division but might fall short of the champion. Anyhow, let's see how the eliminator will be for both belts. I'm seeing Robson figuring out in one of those fights.
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September 24, 2022, 08:42:18 PM
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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Yeah, Robson is fully outclassed by Shakur.  And that KO, punched delivered to the body of Robson is quite unnoticeable, I thought it was a pushdown but when they do slowmotion, the punch to the body made Robson down on his knee.  I think that KO affected the fight-style of Robson that much that he seems to look like a different boxer from the time before the knockdown. If he forced his way in hitting the required weight, he might probably perform poorly and Conceicao probably had unified the belt.  It maybe not be that bad but surely his punching power and stamina will be greatly affected.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

You could have considered the decision of Shakur not forcing his way to meet the required weight.  His stamina and conditioning are almost not affected of the extra activity he has trying to meet the weight requirement since he decided not to when he feels it will cost him that much if he pursues the target weight.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

That would a very interesting story to find out. Shakur will be moving to a weight division that has lots of great boxer to offer and I agree, he needs some tune-up fight to have a feel of the weight division's strength before facing the creams of the crop on that division.

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September 25, 2022, 05:59:00 PM
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As expected Shakur dominate the whole fight for a unanimous decision win
SCORES: 117-109, 117-109, 118-108 for Shakur Stevenson, Shakur is ready to move up in the lightweight division but I doubt he will have the same success as he did in this division, Haney, Garcia, and Loma are just too good, and he cannot match up the power and speed of these three, but anyway congratulation to Shakur.

He schooled Robson like he is an amateur hehe but that was expected but it's just interesting to see if he had the same performance had he decided to shred that excess 1.6 pounds because for sure it will have an effect on his performance.

Almost bet for Shakur by decision @1.6 (boosted) but my mind changed when he did not made the scale as i thought he would knockout Robson since he would be bigger by fight time but i'm wrong, playing safe all the time.

I'm not so sure if he could survive the like of Loma or Davis if he fight them right away, i think he needs few more tune up fights in the LW division before facing either champion.

Nevertheless congrats to Shakur for the win in front of his hometown.

Shakur made a good move on forfeiting the fight because he knows himself that he cannot shrink that 1.6 pounds in mere 2 hours before the official weigh-in, it could be a walk in the park for Shakur if he had made the required weight. The difference of their power is so evident, Robson doesn't stand a chance against Shakur and that's for real. Nevertheless, it was a good run and now it's time for him to take his power in lightweight division.


As I have previously, it was a good decision on their side, nothing to regrets as he if shrink himself that 1.6 lbs, it can do damage to him. And it was evident that in the power department, Shakur has the advantage and that body shot really slow down Robson in the fight. Although he says that he will pull a surprised, there's nothing spectacular about him. Top tier boxers, he had difficulty, but probably he can beat the rest of the fighters in this division but might fall short of the champion. Anyhow, let's see how the eliminator will be for both belts. I'm seeing Robson figuring out in one of those fights.

Right, his body already giving him signs that it's time for him to move to the next weight class because he will suffer if he continues to reducing his weights just to meet the requirement even if that is not his comfort weight anymore. Well, that's one down for Robson and surely he will be fighting for that vacant title.

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September 25, 2022, 09:44:50 PM
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Thanks to everyone again who keep this thread a live with their insights and predictions. And mostly everyone got it right based on the poll.

And it was a good homecoming fight for Shakur, he didn't win by knockout by it was a dominating fight.

And to summarized, he won thru the judges scorecard  The official scores were 118-108, 117-109 and 117-109. He wasn't able to make the weight limit though, so he was stripped of his WBC/WBO belt. And he will be moving up in weight in his next fight, So he will at 135 lbs, and this division is pretty stock up.

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