Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message?

[franky1]

saves repeating myself over several topics made by the same guy

TL:Dr;  .. not satoshi but one of the 6 other people mining that day that were not satoshi

looking at the casino guy (that is onesig) casino guy has been BUYING old used wallets/addresses for a while

casino(onesig) is not satoshi.

the original owner of the 2009 promoted address only had a wallet of addresses that DO NOT correspond to the satoshi pattern of mining
(Patoshi Pattern (developed by Sergio Demain Lerner) )
http://satoshiblocks.info/
the address in question was mined as block 1018
checking the pattern block 1018(green) was not mined by the satoshi pattern(blue)


there were 5-7 defined 'lines' of nonce pattern meaning 5-7 people were mining on the day that the promoted address was mining

(satoshi=blue dots up high)
4-6 others=green dots and different colour lines showing their mining path)
(.. the promoted address was mined on green dot of the other 6)

checking a blockexplorer of the spending of the promoted address coins in 2011 also reveals other addresses that the same wallet controlled in 2009
none of them were part of the satoshi pattern

in short satoshi mined alot of coins and a few other people mined occassional blocks. and the addresses being promoted was not part of the satoshi stash

[CryptoGPU]

Yes, this chart shows us how many machines mined these early days.

Satoshi's 'Patoshi machine' mined 7/24 to let the network up (blue points) with a special software where the extraNonce increased after a block was found, therefore this different slope of the blue line. These mined blocks he did not transfer.

And as you say correctly we can see that ~6 PCs mined at that time with the regular downloadable Bitcoin software. But that does not mean that Satoshi didn't mine with one (or more) other PCs running the regular software too.

My opinion is that Satoshi mined with other PC(s) along with the Patoshi machine. And these Bitcoin he transferred and used.

looking at the casino guy (that is onesig) casino guy has been BUYING old used wallets/addresses for a while

To be honest, would you sell the private keys of an early address (like this one) if you mined back then? Yes, 2012 - 2013 private keys were sold to let the buyer claim other coins, but I haven't seen a 2009 key being sold.

casino(onesig) is not satoshi.

I think that too that casinotester is not Satoshi.

.. not satoshi but one of the 6 other people mining that day that were not satoshi

It is also possible that these ~6 mining machines are the group Satoshi.

[S_Speche]

Being off-topic is not a concern when there's an important message to be delivered:


I'm trying to bring your attention upon this very delicate topic:

Full-RBF was deliberately included on Core V24.0 without reaching consensus.

It opens a door to centralization under Blockstream: Bitcoin is not Lightning. Lighting is a L2 solution for scalability of micropayments. Bitcoin L1 is the settlement layer.

Full-RBF solves NO problem: RBF already existed, there was no reason for Full-RBF to be deployed.

Full-RBF enables ANY transaction to be double spendable, any honest transaction could be replaced by a malicious higher fee one. This could result in censorship, seizure of funds by an state actor or theft.

#NoFullRBF

Do not download Bitcoin Core V24.0

If your are running V24.0 Uninstall immediately! 

Security must not be compromised in favor of UX, Scalability, or any other reason unrelated to Bitcoin's value itself.

[illusivereverse]

This is the oldest signature    (please post if you have a signature with an older address)

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
HCsBcgB+Wcm8kOGMH8IpNeg0H4gjCrlqwDf/GlSXphZGBYxm0QkKEPhh9DTJRp2IDNUhVr0FhP9qCqo2W0recNM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

signature chain 

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
HwvtQmiREYIyZeI9uohqr82d9eiwtcBgbhG5+VR7+ouEDOTgd6EYvcgNQVELLVJnQbYhN6SSv1xPtQ8SmIa10+U=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

A lovely present!

Special.

[illusivereverse]

This is the oldest signature    (please post if you have a signature with an older address)

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
HCsBcgB+Wcm8kOGMH8IpNeg0H4gjCrlqwDf/GlSXphZGBYxm0QkKEPhh9DTJRp2IDNUhVr0FhP9qCqo2W0recNM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

signature chain 

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
HwvtQmiREYIyZeI9uohqr82d9eiwtcBgbhG5+VR7+ouEDOTgd6EYvcgNQVELLVJnQbYhN6SSv1xPtQ8SmIa10+U=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

A lovely present!

Special.

1MDAvctRaTDE5b6GgZy6tB8jXtJFR1UQjJ

[franky1]

usernames{casinotester0001, OneSignature, cryptoGPU, illusivereserve}
are all one guy using alt accounts,  self promoting using alt accounts
and then making several topics of the same pre-emptive advert for a ICO/new network scheme.. and then sending the links to crap coin media outlets to promote him further.

he should stop and find a better use of his time. this is getting ridiculous now
im starting to smell the same games as bitcoinmoses

[S_Speche]

There's a reason why they released Full-RBF in a market low.

There's a reason why Onesignature signed that message afterwards.

Onesignature is not self promoting, Full-RBF is an attack.

This is so frustrating. Open your eyes!

[franky1]

lets address the RBF thing

if RBF becomes easy to achieve. then the trust of zero confirm on the bitcoin networks zero-confirm relay stage becomes obsolete in trusting as paid. unless:
you use non-taproot multisig.
  pre-consenting to tx signing,
  meaning they cant send something after. without signed consent
  (disclaimer avoid being part of a taproot multisig)
  (avoid alt, sub, sidenetwork without a consensus feature when signing)
or
if value is negligible
   and you do not care to lose value should they change, take a chance.
or
   you have to wait for atleast a few confirms to then trust you got paid..

its all a salepitch game for a altnetwork fangirl team
remove a feature or security from bitcoin to make another network look more appealing. even if the altnetwork they promote still is broke in many ways

[Emitdama]

The simplest answer is that if Satoshi was back, and he signed messages on bitcointalk and shared it, I am sure that the whole world would be talking about it and that would be the way you will hear about it. You are not going to see a topic started about it, you are going to see news articles written about it and twitter going crazy about it, you wouldn't ask if it is him or not, you would see proof all around the world.

Those tells me that it's not, there is a way to do this, and that person did it, that is how you know it's a fake. I do not even have the talent to confirm or not based on signed message, and even with lack of that skill, I just used common sense to realize it's not.

[S_Speche]

What problem does Full-RBF solves, if we already had optional RBF?

#NoFullRBF

Do not download V24

If you're running V24, uninstall immediately.

[S_Speche]

yes! Satoshi is back! Fear not, just Another whale. World's first and biggest hodler.

[digaran]

yes! Satoshi is back! Fear not, just Another whale. World's first and biggest hodler.

Where is he?🤔 is you he?🤣

[S_Speche]

yes! Satoshi is back! Fear not, just Another whale. World's first and biggest hodler.

Where is he?🤔 is you he?🤣

Bitcoin is under attack. The worst attack in its entire history. I'm trying to bring consciusness around Full-RBF disadvantages. So why I'm here is a more pertinent question.

Do not download Bitcoin Core V24.0
Do not download Bitcoin Core V24.0.1
If you're running these, uninstall immediately!