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December 22, 2024, 06:44:42 PM
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This is actually not something that will be impossible to implement, but most casinos will not like this idea and we already know why. Casinos rely on house edge over the gamblers to remain profitable, this method will definitely defeat that purpose by helping gamblers win more by playing multiple games in one ticket. Many gamblers would even take advantage of the opportunity of placing multiple bets to win more which will definitely put these casinos in a disadvantageous position even if they reduce the amount they pay out for each game won.

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December 22, 2024, 07:32:36 PM
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Let's take it one step at a time, there is always the belief that more users means more success for the casino, any casino can have low traffic (it happens) and be more successful than a casino considered better just for having more users.

In reality there is something similar, cash out, also insurance, etc. Then in the way you put it is to give the player an advantage, since for that they make individual bets, multiple bets pay well for the simple reason that it is not so easy to get it right, my highest selection was 12 games and it was like 90x, in the past few days I had a bet of 8 games and I failed in only one, there I would have liked to have your proposal, but as I said there is cash out, insurance and even some promotion where your bets recover the initial bet.

In other words, there are several alternatives, not exactly as you mention.

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December 22, 2024, 07:44:01 PM
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BTW; I don't think if similar topic has existed, if any please ref me to continue our discussion over there. Also do not see my suggestion as something silly, i am only trying to make out possibilities.

Your inputs is highly needed.
Well you are right and I never came across any similar topics even if there's any then it should be that it hasn't come to my knowledge.
But to be frank no casino would want to do this because they would lose higher than expected, but even if they would have to it should be a way to benefit them more than those who are gaining from the casino. Most of the well easing options has already been given to us to use without incurring much lost while gambling.

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December 22, 2024, 07:58:16 PM
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I don’t think this is a good idea - if the priority will be on the first game then all I have to do is make sure to get a good prediction on the first one and then I’ll avoid losing my money since I only get to lose my money after I lost the first game and since it will put the casino at a loss here I don’t think they’ll ever consider it.

The only one I know of are those flexible bets where you can get paid even if some of your games don’t enter you’ll still get some payment but it will be a lot lower than what you were supposed to receive if everything has gone well.

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December 22, 2024, 08:14:09 PM
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Your inputs is highly needed.
I am not big on sports betting but from what I understand from your post, this would put an advantage on the gamblers, which is a big NO NO for the gambling site while I think this sounds good for the gamblers and might attract new gamblers to the gambling site, they will not take a second thought on implementing it as they are basically giving gamblers the advantage.

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December 22, 2024, 09:19:53 PM
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This particular format has an advantage for both the gambler and the casino. Now one of the advantage  of this particular method for the gambler is that your odds of winning a particular game is more secure in the sense that the losses of other games would not interfere with the win of a particular game however the disadvantage is that you get smaller payouts since the odds are smaller so for bigger payouts you would have to stake more.
The casino has its own advantage as since the odds would not be calculated cumulatively, they would have to worry less about a bigger payout if you eventually hit a win on every one of the games.

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December 22, 2024, 11:22:15 PM
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Your inputs is highly needed.
I am not big on sports betting but from what I understand from your post, this would put an advantage on the gamblers, which is a big NO NO for the gambling site while I think this sounds good for the gamblers and might attract new gamblers to the gambling site, they will not take a second thought on implementing it as they are basically giving gamblers the advantage.
From what I have read here as feedback it's really a no go options for the gambling site because they wouldn't have much advantage over the whole thing, therefore what they would do is to make it less profitable for the gamblers because, they are concerned to their welfare instead of trying to dance in the favor of the gambler it would be more hard for them to be open to lose while gamblers benefits from the whole concept.

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December 23, 2024, 05:36:58 AM
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This reminds me of system betting, it's those types of bets that allow you to lose multiple matches and still keep the ticket going. Unfortunately, this was only a thing for the fiat bookies and it never reached the crypto bookies.

If it does get implemented by any of the popular crypto bookies, the one thing i'm afraid of is how much they'll try to juice out of these bets knowing it's safer than a parlay. Also, they wouldn't hesitate to sneak in that extra juice and make you lose 5% or more of the original payout since it's noticeable through some of their markets and certain features like the bet builder.

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January 07, 2025, 07:49:52 PM
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Is not possible reason being that they have given you the chance of playing one single game and winning, for example if Manchester United and Chelsea is having a match you can decide to play only that game without adding other games, when you predict many match and place the bet those games are now put together to become one slip, if bet companies do as you have said they will lose a lot of money considering the fact that the aim of every business is to maximize profits.
If you want to play a single game you are free to do it, you telling companies to pay you when ever one game inside your slip play as predicted is not ideal, let's remember that gambling companies are own by people and not government and they have works which they pay and they also pay tax to government if they bring options that will be easy for people to always win they they will be out of business, the options in gambling are just okay if you feel the options in a particular gambling company is not okay for you then change there are many gambling companies in the world.

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January 10, 2025, 11:49:25 AM
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Hello Ladies & Gents, and complement of the season!

For long have been thinking about something different from these gambling sites, i know this could be hard for them to implement but somehow it's also another way to attract more users. Some might say this will not favor the site because they would tends to lose more, but what if for example; you had about 10 games picked in one ticket (it could be less or above) and along the line your games started running and the first match win, you get credited according the odds of that particular match till the last match finishes, or maybe along the line second to the last game cut off then the site stops crediting you. Do you think something like this?

Then on other hands, if the first game on the list cut of even if others are running or scoring the game already cut off. That is; major priority are given if the first game on the list scores, let say 1,2,3,4,5, scores then you gets credited proportionally to the odds of the matches, but if number 6 or 7-9,.. 10 cut off, any of these numbers cuts of then automatically you lose. Even if the match runs from 1-9 and last game cut off, the betting site credits you to the number the match cuts off.

What do you think, will this help those who always gets to last game of achieving particular winning and they lose the game?

BTW; I don't think if similar topic has existed, if any please ref me to continue our discussion over there. Also do not see my suggestion as something silly, i am only trying to make out possibilities.

Your inputs is highly needed.
Your idea is actually clever and good for the gambler as it gives the gambler more chances of winning and even more control over their betting tickets as the your whole theory is geared towards only the customer which is the gambler but the fact is that in things like this you have to also consider the betting company involved because the fact of the matter is that gambling is a business setup for the purpose of making profit so if bet companies start paying customers on per each game basis that play that you win in a ticket the company will be out of business at the long run


The fact is that there are rules and regulations that are guiding gambling so they can't bring out options like that because if you are a sincere person to your self you will bear the fact that gambling is designed to favour the customer because instead of accumulating up to seven to ten games why not play a single game and only increase the stake before a similar option of cash out is there for gamblers to monitor and cash out when necessary but what you're asking for is really too much for these companies to bear as they are into business and this option will affect them


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January 10, 2025, 12:15:38 PM
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The fact that I don’t understand it already means it won’t fly in a sportsbook. Why make things complicated when betting is easy?

Based on my experience, there are games where you can get credited for a win even before they’re over, but that usually applies to totals. For bets on who will win, even if your pick is 99% guaranteed to win, bookies still won’t grade it until the game officially ends.

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January 10, 2025, 05:29:25 PM
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Are you talking about the Parlay? The concept is pretty simple you win big or nothing so having a model that pays you after every win is not gonna generate revenue for the operator, I mean if we look at it only people who lose on the first game will go with nothing and everyone for the remaining 9 games whenever they lose they are going to get their money so how is that sounds for a revenue generating model to sustain?


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January 10, 2025, 06:20:34 PM
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This is actually not something that will be impossible to implement, but most casinos will not like this idea and we already know why. Casinos rely on house edge over the gamblers to remain profitable, this method will definitely defeat that purpose by helping gamblers win more by playing multiple games in one ticket. Many gamblers would even take advantage of the opportunity of placing multiple bets to win more which will definitely put these casinos in a disadvantageous position even if they reduce the amount they pay out for each game won.

Nope, it will not defeat anything, neither will it help gamblers to win more(it won't). As a matter of fact, if such method is introduced by bookies, the gambler is at disadvantage because the maths of that method will be so crazy. The purpose why we decide to bet on parlay is because we expect that we can have a big odds by compiling different games in one ticket and betting in all of them at once to be able to win a huge amount.

So, for example, if you have a parlay of 10 games with total odds of 25 and you decided to stake $10 on that bet, you potentially win will be, staked amount multiply by total odds,

But, if the method of what is discussed on this thread is being employed by the bookie, then your $10 staking amount will be divided by 10 games, which means you are only staking $1 on each game and will only get a small win if you decided to cash out on every won game depending on the game odds too.

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January 10, 2025, 06:29:07 PM
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Are you talking about the Parlay? The concept is pretty simple you win big or nothing so having a model that pays you after every win is not gonna generate revenue for the operator, I mean if we look at it only people who lose on the first game will go with nothing and everyone for the remaining 9 games whenever they lose they are going to get their money so how is that sounds for a revenue generating model to sustain?
From op I don't think is that possible to happen because this wouldn't benefits to casino operators rather it can only benefit Gamblers. Though from my noticed such option is there were one has to bet on parlay, choose cut 1 or 2 two with this the odds are likely to be dropped by 2/10. Which if your total winning was to be 10k it will be divided into 2/10 where your potential winning could be 2k-3k due to that options.

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January 10, 2025, 06:29:24 PM
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What do you think, will this help those who always gets to last game of achieving particular winning and they lose the game?

This idea is only effective for the gamblers to use, no gambling platform will be interested in using this kind of method on their platform, because they are going to run on a lose, if you think you're having op to 10 considerable matches, then you have the privilege of splitting them as you wish on different tickets should in case you don't want to have them all in one ticket and lose all, but once you made the decision of playing them all on a single ticket, then that's all, if one cut then the entire ticket is ruined, another alternative the gambling platforms served us is to check out, but some don't like the option of cashing out when the games are not done.

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January 10, 2025, 06:34:08 PM
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Are you talking about the Parlay? The concept is pretty simple you win big or nothing so having a model that pays you after every win is not gonna generate revenue for the operator, I mean if we look at it only people who lose on the first game will go with nothing and everyone for the remaining 9 games whenever they lose they are going to get their money so how is that sounds for a revenue generating model to sustain?
From op I don't think is that possible to happen because this wouldn't benefits to casino operators rather it can only benefit Gamblers. Though from my noticed such option is there were one has to bet on parlay, choose cut 1 or 2 two with this the odds are likely to be dropped by 2/10. Which if your total winning was to be 10k it will be divided into 2/10 where your potential winning could be 2k-3k due to that options.
We have that option already which usually called as cash out feature that's make the cash out possible in the middle of Parlay, the casino offers a guaranteed rewards for the wins but one who opted the cash out has to go with that money only since all the future bets are no more relevant which is either a win or lose and this is a strategic move to minimize the loss from the bookies which is still 50/50 only but not like OP mentioned which means 99% towards the gamblers not the operator.

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January 10, 2025, 09:16:57 PM
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What do you think, will this help those who always gets to last game of achieving particular winning and they lose the game?

This idea is only effective for the gamblers to use, no gambling platform will be interested in using this kind of method on their platform, because they are going to run on a lose, if you think you're having op to 10 considerable matches, then you have the privilege of splitting them as you wish on different tickets should in case you don't want to have them all in one ticket and lose all, but once you made the decision of playing them all on a single ticket, then that's all, if one cut then the entire ticket is ruined, another alternative the gambling platforms served us is to check out, but some don't like the option of cashing out when the games are not done.
The purpose of multiple game and match is for a more higher odds, single bets has less possibilities of lower odd but with higher probabilities of winning. Multiple or parlay bet is to combine it to have a marginalized odds where it would be so higher to give you higher payout with few less amount to stake on them. Meaning if you have a total odd of 100-200 odds and stakes with $100 at a go it wouldn't be the same as someone who uses 1.5 odds to stake with $100 which the payout is on 150$ in return, at this point people would loves to vet their games thoroughly before having to combine different games and stake at a go to have a big pay out. At that point it's important for the gambling sites to settle every single games that has played.

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January 11, 2025, 06:40:26 AM
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@Perfectbaby theirs no difference between what you just said and cashout option been given to soccer gambling websites like sportybet and other betting websites,  if you played or booked 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 games  and the games is playing according to how you played it, when the game play and reach to the 5th one, the gambling websites will give you a cashout option which will be like dividing your potential wining by 3, so I believe that such option when given is left for you to select to cashout or not, theirs no different between what you said and cashout option given by sportybet and other gambling platforms, for the way you said it, I don't think they can implement it, because gambling owners needs money also and they opened gambling business for them to make profit.

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January 11, 2025, 07:26:33 AM
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Hello Ladies & Gents, and complement of the season!

For long have been thinking about something different from these gambling sites, i know this could be hard for them to implement but somehow it's also another way to attract more users. Some might say this will not favor the site because they would tends to lose more, but what if for example; you had about 10 games picked in one ticket (it could be less or above) and along the line your games started running and the first match win, you get credited according the odds of that particular match till the last match finishes, or maybe along the line second to the last game cut off then the site stops crediting you. Do you think something like this?

Then on other hands, if the first game on the list cut of even if others are running or scoring the game already cut off. That is; major priority are given if the first game on the list scores, let say 1,2,3,4,5, scores then you gets credited proportionally to the odds of the matches, but if number 6 or 7-9,.. 10 cut off, any of these numbers cuts of then automatically you lose. Even if the match runs from 1-9 and last game cut off, the betting site credits you to the number the match cuts off.

What do you think, will this help those who always gets to last game of achieving particular winning and they lose the game?

BTW; I don't think if similar topic has existed, if any please ref me to continue our discussion over there. Also do not see my suggestion as something silly, i am only trying to make out possibilities.

Your inputs is highly needed.

I'm not sure if 1 ticket in 10 games is possible op, but I don't think it's possible, but I'm not sure. Because I don't like playing sports betting either,
although I often see it and read about it in discussions here on the forum.

Then I don't think I've read anything like what you do op when playing casino gambling in sportsbetting that you mention.
I just don't know about other players who often play in sportbetting.

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