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Hello Ladies & Gents, and complement of the season!
For long have been thinking about something different from these gambling sites, i know this could be hard for them to implement but somehow it's also another way to attract more users. Some might say this will not favor the site because they would tends to lose more, but what if for example; you had about 10 games picked in one ticket (it could be less or above) and along the line your games started running and the first match win, you get credited according the odds of that particular match till the last match finishes, or maybe along the line second to the last game cut off then the site stops crediting you. Do you think something like this?
Then on other hands, if the first game on the list cut of even if others are running or scoring the game already cut off. That is; major priority are given if the first game on the list scores, let say 1,2,3,4,5, scores then you gets credited proportionally to the odds of the matches, but if number 6 or 7-9,.. 10 cut off, any of these numbers cuts of then automatically you lose. Even if the match runs from 1-9 and last game cut off, the betting site credits you to the number the match cuts off.
What do you think, will this help those who always gets to last game of achieving particular winning and they lose the game?
BTW; I don't think if similar topic has existed, if any please ref me to continue our discussion over there. Also do not see my suggestion as something silly, i am only trying to make out possibilities.
Your inputs is highly needed.
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December 22, 2024, 07:40:48 AM |
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you can consider these kind of bets like "side bets" so directly linked to a result but part of a bigger bets. you already have this chance with any bookmaker and it requires just 2 bets on the same event. more single events create a bigger event a parlay bet.
I think that these bets are something interesting but implies an higher odd. However you can always "create" your bet by picking single items by yourself. Some of bookmakers are already offering similar solutions.
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December 22, 2024, 08:06:10 AM |
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Even if the match runs from 1-9 and last game cut off, the betting site credits you to the number the match cuts off.
Yes, but the house is not going to shoot itself in the foot. If it is going to pay you partially if you win 9 out of 10 or those that are less than 10 it will adjust what it pays you on each of those bets that you can win so that it is profitable for it. I think that these bets are something interesting but implies an higher odd.
As I say, if it is higher odd for him the house will give him a lower return as well. Some might say this will not favor the site because they would tends to lose more...
If the house is more likely to lose it will adjust what it pays you if you win.
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Perfectbaby (OP)
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December 22, 2024, 08:44:35 AM |
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Even if the match runs from 1-9 and last game cut off, the betting site credits you to the number the match cuts off.
Yes, but the house is not going to shoot itself in the foot. If it is going to pay you partially if you win 9 out of 10 or those that are less than 10 it will adjust what it pays you on each of those bets that you can win so that it is profitable for it. I think that these bets are something interesting but implies an higher odd.
As I say, if it is higher odd for him the house will give him a lower return as well. Some might say this will not favor the site because they would tends to lose more...
If the house is more likely to lose it will adjust what it pays you if you win. Yes you are correct because they wouldn't want to lose entirely and they will just want to make it to be equilibrium or even in most of their favor than the bettor itself. Besides you are absolutely right because the house not gonna shoot itself, therefore they would only accept something that seems to be in their most favorable parts than that of gambler. Though, like the second poster said, that there is option like this but when i look at those options it doesn't portray what i meant. Their option is out of 10 games you have only to play cutting one or cutting two meaning; If you had 10 games and it plays from 1-7 and 8 match cuts you automatically lose the whole games, same is applicable to 9-10 games. But my concepts is entirely different, this is "get credited as you win" meaning if 1 number win your balance are being top up by the gambling site same is applicable till the last match except anyone that tends to cut by then all the remaining matches are lost. you can consider these kind of bets like "side bets" so directly linked to a result but part of a bigger bets. you already have this chance with any bookmaker and it requires just 2 bets on the same event. more single events create a bigger event a parlay bet.
I think that these bets are something interesting but implies an higher odd. However you can always "create" your bet by picking single items by yourself. Some of bookmakers are already offering similar solutions.
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December 22, 2024, 08:46:18 AM Last edit: December 22, 2024, 08:59:12 AM by Tmoonz |
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This is not going to be possible, the compilation of different games in one slip is apparently given it as an output of being a single bet in one slip, perhaps we already have the privilege of playing a single game as a single bet, considering the fact that the aim of every business is to maximize profits hence, they already know what they are doing surely if they keep paying partly there is a higher chances of running at lost because they know very well that the customer have less chances of winning their multiple games. This is very unrealistic and I don't see that happening at anytime. Yeah we can have such conversation and there is nothing absolutely wrong with it.
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December 22, 2024, 09:42:59 AM |
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What do you think, will this help those who always gets to last game of achieving particular winning and they lose the game?
The gambling system has already taken care of those who can predict but get to near miss when few of their game or one of them cut and that innovation, I think is the cash out BTW; I don't think if similar topic has existed, if any please ref me to continue our discussion over there. Also do not see my suggestion as something silly, i am only trying to make out possibilities.
Your inputs is highly needed.
I don't think your suggestion and request are silly. Again, I think your request is already taken care of by the option of CUT. There is a betting option that is known as CUT 1 or CUT 2 or CUT 3 etc. This means you are predicting such amount of CUT in your slip and the rest will go as predicted. That is for example if you have parlay of 20 games on your slip then you chose the CUT option of CUT 3, That means you are also predicting that out of those 20 games, you are also predicting that 17 games must go your way in the options you have predicted. So it means, if you get only 16 accurately, you lost the bet. This option actually get your potential winning reduced because logically you are actually betting for 17 games instead of the 20 games in the slip. Therefore, I think this CUT option and cash out system takes care of what you are discussing IMO.
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December 22, 2024, 10:56:17 AM |
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for example; you had about 10 games picked in one ticket (it could be less or above) and along the line your games started running and the first match win, you get credited according the odds of that particular match till the last match finishes, or maybe along the line second to the last game cut off then the site stops crediting you. Do you think something like this?
This is how betting sites suppose to be. There are two types of bet that you can make. There are single bets which will not require you to accumulate. You can choose ten matches and place bet on the matches differently in a way that your money will be credited if you win or even before the match finish for the individual bets depending on the odd type that you selected. Even in parley this is how it is but in a way the ones that are played already would have been marked as right or wrong.
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December 22, 2024, 11:00:49 AM |
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I will advise you to bet on single games instead of parlay or multiple bet, I actually know that parlay or multiple bets gives you higher odds than single bets but most times it's safer to bet on single and then increase your stake amount, for instance, if you want to gamble with $50 for Parlay then it would be better to double the amount and bet on single bet to increase your outcome even though there is no guaranteed of winning.
Maybe alternatively, you can bet on cut 1/2. Wherefore, if you have a total submission of 10 games as you said you can bet on cutting 2 and win the rest game. This is applicable to what you are saying here but I think there is only small difference and the house wouldn't want to beat on themselves rather they would want to make it in their favor rather than the gamer's favors.
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December 22, 2024, 12:00:27 PM |
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I will advise you to bet on single games instead of parlay or multiple bet, I actually know that parlay or multiple bets gives you higher odds than single bets but most times it's safer to bet on single and then increase your stake amount, for instance, if you want to gamble with $50 for Parlay then it would be better to double the amount and bet on single bet to increase your outcome even though there is no guaranteed of winning.
If someone wants to bet with $10 and the person use $2 to bet on parley. The bet is riskier but the money used is lower. I think it is still a good option that can be gone for. If you bet on parley to lower the amount that you used which can be convenient than using higher amount of money to bet, then parley is good for such a person. But just as I have posted before, if you want to be getting credited as you win, you need to places all the matches on a single bet each.
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December 22, 2024, 12:09:44 PM |
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The reason why I feel that bookies will not do these is because they believed that players have the privilege to stake on the games individually. For example, since you want to get paid on the individual successful bet on your ticket of 10 matches, you should have staked on each games one after another instead of accumulating it to one ticket. I believe they must have already thought about this idea before they finally decided to only allow cash out offer when it's only remaining 1 or 2 games to play out.
Bookies will not implement this kind of idea.
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Hmmm, so parlay but instead of losing everything, they instead get the winnings they originally had? I see no reason why bookies would implement this. There's no advantage for them! Parlays were implemented and still accepted because gamblers run the risk of losing everything if one game (or bet) they have loses. In your sample case op? I don't really see the gamblers losing anything even if they lose. Sure, they lose out on the possible winnings for the latter bets but again, this is "possible". This means it's non-existent till won. I agree this helps with the players, but as a business, bookies prioritize the benefits they get, not the users.
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It's possible to be implemented, but the odds would be lower than normal.
Let's say: Match 1, team A @1.80, team B @1.70 Match 2, team A @1.20, team B @3.00 Match 3, team A @1.40, team B @2.50
If you bet all team A on all match, it doesn't mean the casino will give you @1.80 return when the first match won, but it should be @1.50 or something like that because you didn't take the risk to win all or lose all.
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At this course I think the players would standout on the more advantageous side on this scenario than the house because the chances to make cash out of bettors will be more possible than their losses and then if this is implemented then we should watch to see all the casinos running bankrupt since there are more number of gamblers than the casino companies and of course we don't expect the casino companies to keep sourcing out other means on how to be paying players on their winnings.
I bet it that the risks on gamblers loosing the value of their stakes will be limited while the casinos faces the worse risks.
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Hello Ladies & Gents, and complement of the season!
For long have been thinking about something different from these gambling sites, i know this could be hard for them to implement but somehow it's also another way to attract more users. Some might say this will not favor the site because they would tends to lose more, but what if for example; you had about 10 games picked in one ticket (it could be less or above) and along the line your games started running and the first match win, you get credited according the odds of that particular match till the last match finishes, or maybe along the line second to the last game cut off then the site stops crediting you. Do you think something like this?
Then on other hands, if the first game on the list cut of even if others are running or scoring the game already cut off. That is; major priority are given if the first game on the list scores, let say 1,2,3,4,5, scores then you gets credited proportionally to the odds of the matches, but if number 6 or 7-9,.. 10 cut off, any of these numbers cuts of then automatically you lose. Even if the match runs from 1-9 and last game cut off, the betting site credits you to the number the match cuts off.
What do you think, will this help those who always gets to last game of achieving particular winning and they lose the game?
BTW; I don't think if similar topic has existed, if any please ref me to continue our discussion over there. Also do not see my suggestion as something silly, i am only trying to make out possibilities.
Your inputs is highly needed.
This is already implemented in almost all casinos and the option is called singles. You can select as many games as you want and bet them equal amount that makes it look like you are betting each of the matches separately. The total winning will not be like you played them as a parley and if you are talking about a parley in which the individual events will be credited, that will not be possible. I also know a style called FLEX that is implemented by some platforms which means that you still win the bet even if one game cut, the consequence will just be a reduction in the total payout.
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for example; you had about 10 games picked in one ticket (it could be less or above) and along the line your games started running and the first match win, you get credited according the odds of that particular match till the last match finishes, or maybe along the line second to the last game cut off then the site stops crediting you. Do you think something like this?
This one makes me think back to one of the topics I created about a person who bet on a game and was given the opportunity to cash out some of the amount and walk away during a particular win but didn't because he wanted to wait until the last game to cash out the full amount. In this your case, you need to explain clearly if the the person will starting getting credited by choice or if it will be an automated process. Even if this is by choice there are gamblers that still wouldn't want this.
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This one makes me think back to one of the topics I created about a person who bet on a game and was given the opportunity to cash out some of the amount and walk away during a particular win but didn't because he wanted to wait until the last game to cash out the full amount. In this your case, you need to explain clearly if the the person will starting getting credited by choice or if it will be an automated process. Even if this is by choice there are gamblers that still wouldn't want this.
I think he is talking about cash out but in a way that gamblers will not necessarily have to manually do it but the gambling site will automatically do it for the gambler. I do not know what OP wants to achieve with this thread but I think what he wants is not possible. It is the best the way gambling sites make the cash out to be manually done.
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It's a unique idea and I like it.
Do you mean those who make like 7-10 parlays or more can get some credits if they win the first 6 - 10 of those parlays and somehow lose because of their greediness without cashing out? It's a good idea and it could be converted to points that can be exchanged for cash at a later date where they will achieve a certain number of points to exchange it. This could improve the number of gamblers who would choose to make parlays which gives the gambling site an advantage because we all know that parlays mostly end up losing as one of those games could end up as a losing game. Maybe that way, it won't just be frustration that they will feel but they will see the points growing and somehow they know they can cash out all those losses once they achieve a certain number of points for cashback. I like it and I hope they are seeing this so they will find ways to implement it.
The computation will be the problem here. "x" - is the amount of bet, "y" - is the total odds received before the loss, and "n" as the total of what will be given as a "rakeback" or "cashback. Do realize that they cannot give more than what you bet for. It will be a workload but I sincerely doubt that a gambler will get more than what he paid for. Let's say the total of parlay is x50 for a 10-line parlay and you made a $1 bet. You made it to the 9th winning and you just need the last one to win it all. If it loses, it doesn't mean the gambling site will give you half of what you almost won but just the amount of maybe half of what you paid for or a third of it. It's a losing business if they will allow you to win every time even if you already lost.
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I think this idea is based on a misguided premise that says one outcome effects the other.
Well in reality events are independent from each other. And the example doesn't specify playing on the same league or tournament. There surely are some scenarios where it might be more favourable to lose but there also comes in the picture the fair play scheme.
So I would say don't to too far with such thiughts because if things can't be kept simple for the gambler there's little appeal for the casino to implement this. The foundation of new promos should be simple, if it's too complicated many people will.be disappointed or it will make no sense.
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Let's say: Match 1, team A @1.80, team B @1.70 Match 2, team A @1.20, team B @3.00 Match 3, team A @1.40, team B @2.50
If you bet all team A on all match, it doesn't mean the casino will give you @1.80 return when the first match won, but it should be @1.50 or something like that because you didn't take the risk to win all or lose all.
It's way worse, I had a multiplier with 11 matches and the first match was a simple one with just 1.5 odds. I won the first game out of those and guess what my instant cahs-out was? 0.5 of the sum I bet, so even with one match won on my ticket I could only cash out less than my bet, that is because casinos don't calculate how much you have won, but how bad you risk losing the next games, so if you have high risks games don't expect even 1/4 of the bets. It's a good idea and it could be converted to points that can be exchanged for cash at a later date where they will achieve a certain number of points to exchange it. This could improve the number of gamblers who would choose to make parlays which gives the gambling site an advantage because we all know that parlays mostly end up losing as one of those games could end up as a losing game.
And you see the casino agreeing to it? Why would they pay up the sums or even give credits on better odds than an early cashout, just so they would lose money?
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You are betting the big parlay for the big payday. On a 10 team parlay you could be looking at 100-1, 200-1, 300-1 or even higher odds. Massive payout, but if you were to bet single games you would get 1.2-2.5 odds. On 10 teams single bets you would make 25-1 odds in total if you bet each game and won. This is why people parlay and look for the higher than 25-1 payout and get a massive score. Casinos are not going to pay you after every win in a parlay because they would be taking all the risk. They want you to be foolish and bet that 10 team parlay because they know they are going to make alot more than they lose.
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