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February 12, 2023, 04:34:13 PM
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To be honest, Ukraine is overly romanticized by the world.
Relative to its population size, Belarus was the one that took the most loses. Poland is a country with very tortured past too and yeah, Ukraine but the ww2 was truly fought by the whole USSR and almost every former-soviet union country has sacrificed their men for this war. If it wasn't USSR, a lot of them would be neutral and try not to participate.
I think when it comes to Russia, Ukraine and Germany, true nazis for Ukrainians were and are Russians because of The Holocaust in Ukraine and because of current war.
Here is the statistics by the way:


Russians were always the real Nazis. They wanted to conquer and annihilate their neighbours.
Never mind the Orwellian lies their propaganda was spreading since 1918.

What they are doing in Ukraine is clear genocide, depopulation, and an imperialist land grab.

You forgot to note that the maroon line for Poland on the chart, is longer than the line for Ukraine. Yet Ukraine has over a million more dead listed in the numbers. The point is, did Synchronice use Excel or OpenOffice to make the chart?

Note that the reason for WW2 is the same as the reason for the Ukraine war. What is that reason? Like Germany in WW2, Russia is trying to be free of the world banking system that is conquering the world. This banking system has already conquered the US, Nato, and much of the rest of the world. Russia, like Germany in WW2, simply wants to remain free. Too bad Hitler and his Nazi's went nuts. If they hadn't, they might have won, and we all might be a lot freer from the banks.

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February 12, 2023, 07:00:36 PM
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To be honest, Ukraine is overly romanticized by the world.
Relative to its population size, Belarus was the one that took the most loses. Poland is a country with very tortured past too and yeah, Ukraine but the ww2 was truly fought by the whole USSR and almost every former-soviet union country has sacrificed their men for this war. If it wasn't USSR, a lot of them would be neutral and try not to participate.
I think when it comes to Russia, Ukraine and Germany, true nazis for Ukrainians were and are Russians because of The Holocaust in Ukraine and because of current war.
Here is the statistics by the way:


Russians were always the real Nazis. They wanted to conquer and annihilate their neighbours.
Never mind the Orwellian lies their propaganda was spreading since 1918.

What they are doing in Ukraine is clear genocide, depopulation, and an imperialist land grab.

You forgot to note that the maroon line for Poland on the chart, is longer than the line for Ukraine. Yet Ukraine has over a million more dead listed in the numbers. The point is, did Synchronice use Excel or OpenOffice to make the chart?

Note that the reason for WW2 is the same as the reason for the Ukraine war. What is that reason? Like Germany in WW2, Russia is trying to be free of the world banking system that is conquering the world. This banking system has already conquered the US, Nato, and much of the rest of the world. Russia, like Germany in WW2, simply wants to remain free. Too bad Hitler and his Nazi's went nuts. If they hadn't, they might have won, and we all might be a lot freer from the banks.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineInvasionVideos/comments/10kwxp8/just_a_little_comparison/

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February 12, 2023, 08:16:50 PM
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You forgot to note that the maroon line for Poland on the chart, is longer than the line for Ukraine. Yet Ukraine has over a million more dead listed in the numbers. The point is, did Synchronice use Excel or OpenOffice to make the chart?

Note that the reason for WW2 is the same as the reason for the Ukraine war. What is that reason? Like Germany in WW2, Russia is trying to be free of the world banking system that is conquering the world. This banking system has already conquered the US, Nato, and much of the rest of the world. Russia, like Germany in WW2, simply wants to remain free. Too bad Hitler and his Nazi's went nuts. If they hadn't, they might have won, and we all might be a lot freer from the banks.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineInvasionVideos/comments/10kwxp8/just_a_little_comparison/

Thanks for some supporting argument for what I said. However, the difference between Putin and Hitler is that Hitler went nuts, but Putin is logical and practical.

Again, the point against the West is that they are working with a banking system that is trying to swallow up everything... the whole world. Hitler was fighting this banking system in the beginnings of his regime, before he went crazy with power. And Putin is fighting it now.

If Putin wins, all it will mean is that the US draws back to its own country, and Europe will start to trade with Russia again. The big threat is China. Sanctions are driving Russia and China together against the West.

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February 12, 2023, 08:58:44 PM
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You forgot to note that the maroon line for Poland on the chart, is longer than the line for Ukraine. Yet Ukraine has over a million more dead listed in the numbers. The point is, did Synchronice use Excel or OpenOffice to make the chart?

Note that the reason for WW2 is the same as the reason for the Ukraine war. What is that reason? Like Germany in WW2, Russia is trying to be free of the world banking system that is conquering the world. This banking system has already conquered the US, Nato, and much of the rest of the world. Russia, like Germany in WW2, simply wants to remain free. Too bad Hitler and his Nazi's went nuts. If they hadn't, they might have won, and we all might be a lot freer from the banks.

Cool

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineInvasionVideos/comments/10kwxp8/just_a_little_comparison/

Thanks for some supporting argument for what I said. However, the difference between Putin and Hitler is that Hitler went nuts, but Putin is logical and practical.

Again, the point against the West is that they are working with a banking system that is trying to swallow up everything... the whole world. Hitler was fighting this banking system in the beginnings of his regime, before he went crazy with power. And Putin is fighting it now.

If Putin wins, all it will mean is that the US draws back to its own country, and Europe will start to trade with Russia again. The big threat is China. Sanctions are driving Russia and China together against the West.

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That is probably the dumbest thing you have ever said.

The only difference between them is that Hitler was a few centimeters taller.

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February 12, 2023, 10:37:41 PM
Last edit: February 12, 2023, 10:49:28 PM by darkangel11
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Do not expect any reasonable or serious argument from the guys here. One is obsessed with "fighting capitalism" and thinks Putin is communist. Other guy believes any conspiracy theory that crosses his path. There is one that accuses other of being Nazis, but calls Ukranians "Ukroids" and a couple of them rutinely repeat the Kremlin's official propaganda, which can only be accepted for people who are really desperate to accept it.

Of all these, only one seems to have ever been in a war, the rest are just people who want others to die.

The more I read the more it becomes obvious some of us have completely different way of seeing death and destruction. IMO nothing can explain or legitimize what Putin is doing in Ukraine. They could be corrupt, could have used nazi symbols, but none of it makes me sympathize with the Russian cause.

You forgot to note that the maroon line for Poland on the chart, is longer than the line for Ukraine. Yet Ukraine has over a million more dead listed in the numbers. The point is, did Synchronice use Excel or OpenOffice to make the chart?

You forgot to note the line represents % of the population killed, while a number represents the actual number of deaths. The Polish line is longer despite having less deaths because it lost a larger part of its total population.

To be honest, Ukraine is overly romanticized by the world.
Relative to its population size, Belarus was the one that took the most loses. Poland is a country with very tortured past too and yeah, Ukraine but the ww2 was truly fought by the whole USSR and almost every former-soviet union country has sacrificed their men for this war. If it wasn't USSR, a lot of them would be neutral and try not to participate.
I think when it comes to Russia, Ukraine and Germany, true nazis for Ukrainians were and are Russians because of The Holocaust in Ukraine and because of current war.

I feel like Poland was really fucked from both sides. They were attacked by Germany, pulled all forces to the West and got hit from the other side by Russians. Then got sent to concentration camps and Germans were putting them in gas chambers and making soap from their corpses and on the other side of the country the Soviets were shooting them in the head and burying in mass graves.
The Soviets had a forced change of heart when Germans turned against them in 1941. When Soviets finally managed to drive Jerries back, they also liberated some of the Nazi "soap factories" in Poland and lied that those mass graves full of Poles were also left by the Germans. Now Russia is acting like they were on the good side all along...

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February 23, 2023, 02:42:20 AM
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To be honest, Ukraine is overly romanticized by the world.
Relative to its population size, Belarus was the one that took the most loses. Poland is a country with very tortured past too and yeah, Ukraine but the ww2 was truly fought by the whole USSR and almost every former-soviet union country has sacrificed their men for this war. If it wasn't USSR, a lot of them would be neutral and try not to participate.
I think when it comes to Russia, Ukraine and Germany, true nazis for Ukrainians were and are Russians because of The Holocaust in Ukraine and because of current war.
Here is the statistics by the way:


Keep in mind, WW2 started just a few years after the Holodomor - a famine created intentionally by Stalin in response to Ukraines growing middle class calling for Ukrainian independence.  4-5 million died, the rest got to experience WW2.

Stalin, Hitler, Putin.  Only difference is Putin can't grow a funny mustache.  


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