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May 04, 2023, 09:07:14 AM
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Good news doesn't come all the time, maybe it's just whales playing games. To see a big change in Bitcoin it takes years of market expansion. Of course during bear markets investors will sell hard and make money.It's not true that all the bad news about Bitcoin disappears. Because we see all the news when we look at history.2024 will surely show Bitcoin good things.
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May 04, 2023, 09:22:39 AM
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...


There is no clear evidence or consensus to suggest that bad news is intentionally released during bear markets to manipulate the price of Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. While it's certainly possible that some individuals or organizations may seek to take advantage of market fluctuations to make a profit, it's difficult to determine the motives behind market movements or specific news events.

In many cases, market cycles and investor behavior can be driven by a wide range of factors, including economic conditions, geopolitical events, regulatory developments, and even social media sentiment. During bear markets, investors may be more cautious and risk-averse, which can amplify the impact of negative news or events. Conversely, during bull markets, investors may be more optimistic and willing to take on risk, which can lead to increased demand and upward price movements.

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May 04, 2023, 09:33:53 AM
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There are some news media that always promote the negative aspects of Bitcoin. For some reason, if something bad happens in the Bitcoin market, they repeatedly highlight that negative event in front of everyone. One such news in our country was published by a news media where they headlined the news "Proletarians Invest in Bitcoin". 

That is, the media wants to convince everyone that those who invest in Bitcoin will be proletarians. Since it was in their headline, I went to read the news with great interest when they wrote in detail about a person who sold his house and invested in Bitcoin but lost all his wealth because he did not invest at the right time. Maybe it's because of that person's mistake but many people have achieved success never seen that news media shared someone's success story. This is the current state of the media, especially regarding Bitcoin.

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May 04, 2023, 09:55:47 AM
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

This is just the nature of the market for you during Bull and the Bear market run , Market sentiment and speculations here and there, people creating FUDs around, while others are taking advantage of those times. One thing we should do is just to understand the nature of the market and how the market cycle works, once you do that ,I don't think you would be toyed around with all the happenings during Bull and bear market period. Market is like a game only those that understood it will win the game. The bottom line is that, to succeed be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy.

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May 04, 2023, 04:44:51 PM
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This should be expected because it natural for people to be more interested in Bitcoin during it's up-trends and vanish during its down-trend, take for instance when a man becomes Rich we see many people around him either seeking for help or being with him for whatsoever personal motives they feel they can achieve at this time but when this same Rich man becomes poor you don't see much people around him even in rare case you even meet people that never benefit from him when he was rich, this is applicable to Bitcoin, when Bitcoin gains value which is the bullish market more investors is expected, while when it market value shrinks which is during bearish period it loses investment interest, but to me I see the bearish period as an advantage since Bitcoin has come to stay.

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May 04, 2023, 08:01:25 PM
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
The market has only one bearish market condition, one bullish, and then a market correction. But it does not mean that negative news only fall on bearish season, all the market conditions have its fair share of positive and negative news. But most likely, since everything in bearish market are going down, particularly the crypto prices, then you consider it a negative news. No, you were wrong in there. It’s actually a perfect start for newbies to enter the market to maximize buying on these cheap coins and hold them for years until they decide to sell when bullish market sets in.

I agree. Bullish season surely have its own negative effect towards investors especially the ones who cannot really afford most of the coins in the market because in this particular season, prices are surging and there are even other coins that are having another ATH. So, that is quite expensive enough for us to buy during that time, even buying a fraction of it seems expensive enough. While for bear market, buying coins in this time are much advisable because it is cheap but the trouble is, you have to filter which coins that got more chances to explode when the bull comes back again.

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May 04, 2023, 09:17:39 PM
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It's how the media wants to play the game. Of course, during bear markets, the media will sell all its news hard and make money off it. And during the bull runs, they would stay silent as possible because their news wouldn't be bought anyway. It's how they make money, and for sure they are paid to peddle those news hard when the situation aligns to whatever they're reporting. It's a common tactic they've been doing for years way before crypto is around.
Let’s just get used to it. As long as you won’t fall in any of their traps, then you won’t be taken advantage of. Just know that creating FUDs are their only way of sustaining their income, that’s why we have to deal only with facts and get rid of FUDs. And I also think that negative news will remain useless, unless we start believing on it. Even in bullish season there are still negative news that will arise, but as long as it won’t stop the market from being bullish, then we should never mind it too.

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May 05, 2023, 08:29:52 AM
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When the bitcoin price is lower than the purchase price, we just have to wait for the next price increase.
This applies when you take Bitcoin as a short Investment plan and want to quit the market after making a profit. I am not saying that I don't consider it an investment. But, I'd instead consider it savings where I care less about the market price. Because I believe Bitcoin will gain massive ROI in the long run. If Bitcoin gives me a good return in the future, I will be happy to take it. But I won't be sad If Bitcoin doesn't give me a good profit Because, as I said before, I'd instead consider it a savings wallet.

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This applies when you want to hold it for a long time. Bitcoin will continue to replace its ATH in the long run. No matter what your buying price is. You must be patient and hold tight until you see another ATH or a higher price than your buying price. I lost a lot in Bitcoin in the last couple of years, making mistakes that a newbie does. But I learned a lot since then.

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May 05, 2023, 09:26:04 AM
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
Short answer: yes, absolutely yes.

Don't forget that there are very few bitcoins in this world and everybody wants them, and how do they want them? At the lowest price of course! It just can't be a coincidence that during bear markets there are bad news after bad news, many of those clearly made up. I've been in this world since 2016, every few months the market would go down because "China is banning bitcoin", they probably banned it 400 times if you listen to the news, and yet people every single time would fall for it and sell their bitcoins. If you believe in bitcoin just don't pay attention to all the FUD, sometimes it's true, the majority of times is not.
Probably, that’s how the market works. If we can’t stay and take advantage of every bad news that will make the bitcoin price drops, then how are we supposed to accumulate bitcoin in the first place? Actually, bad news are not only happening during bearish market, it’s also visible when the market is bullish, but people don’t actually care about it as they are more concern on how to sell at profits when every coin in the market is increasing its value and price. And bullish market creates the best selling point, so negative news will never be entertained anyway.

Agree that bad news is also in a bull market, but it is not as much and not as big as in a bear market. Do you see any collapse during the bull season? I'm pretty sure we never saw that happen but when the bull season ended, things got worse, not only the bans but also the collapse of the projects happened in a row during bear season. So I think the crypto market is a manipulative market and not based on supply and demand like other markets.

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This applies when you take Bitcoin as a short Investment plan and want to quit the market after making a profit. I am not saying that I don't consider it an investment. But, I'd instead consider it savings where I care less about the market price. Because I believe Bitcoin will gain massive ROI in the long run. If Bitcoin gives me a good return in the future, I will be happy to take it. But I won't be sad If Bitcoin doesn't give me a good profit Because, as I said before, I'd instead consider it a savings wallet.
There are two plans that you can implement in investing in bitcoin, the short term as a way to get the closest profit both in small and large amounts, while the long term pattern can be considered as saving the value of the currency invested in bitcoin. As we know that bitcoin is very suitable for long-term investment and these two ways should be done together with an adjusted capital percentage, but if we don't understand how to read market conditions then long-term is a better choice because we don't need to monitor conditions market any time.

Therefore it depends on how one can take advantage of these two plans and most importantly how comfortable it is in investing, but if both can be controlled properly it will be much better, so that in the short term and long term both benefit. If you believe Bitcoin will get a large ROI in the long term then the choice is much better for you to do.

This applies when you want to hold it for a long time. Bitcoin will continue to replace its ATH in the long run. No matter what your buying price is. You must be patient and hold tight until you see another ATH or a higher price than your buying price. I lost a lot in Bitcoin in the last couple of years, making mistakes that a newbie does. But I learned a lot since then.
It's better to have made a mistake than to try in the absence of knowledge and experience that will lead us to a better prepared stage to control risk. Almost many people have made mistakes when investing, and I and many others are no exception, so based on this experience we understand more about how to make the right investments. Buy and hold bitcoin because we will see the process, patience and discipline will bring us to the maturity stage in investing and bitcoin is very suitable for long-term investment as an asset that is able to maintain investment value.
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May 10, 2023, 08:03:19 AM
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market,
you have witnessed 2 bear market? meaning you already witnessed 2 Bull market right?

but why still asks something like this?


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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...


you should understand everything about this now mate for 4-8 years of being here (if I am correct about your years here)

there are some elements that tries to fool people and make things complicated to change the momentum .

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Agree that bad news is also in a bull market, but it is not as much and not as big as in a bear market. Do you see any collapse during the bull season? I'm pretty sure we never saw that happen but when the bull season ended, things got worse, not only the bans but also the collapse of the projects happened in a row during bear season. So I think the crypto market is a manipulative market and not based on supply and demand like other markets.
lol , Bad news is being spread in Bull market because there are so much happening about manipulation and they wanted
to bring the price down so they will re purchase .

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May 10, 2023, 11:34:25 AM
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Yeah I know about you but there is a possibility that the last couple of months you were talking about is really not something that's going to change or even improve over time.   
It is what makes people realize that a bear market is inevitable because its not just a price fluctuation   
to make it a bear market but because the price does not always increase up and it is not like it happens all the time. 
You would have been like that in Bitcoin in 2017, but not now!   
What you should do with yourself, is to be aware of what the market is all about and not to be afraid. 
 
I believe that at some point every bear market is just a temporary bubble.   
 
Just like you have not seen the value drop so often, you are talking about the market crashing, not the prices going down.
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