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October 26, 2024, 06:49:28 AM
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Here are the geos where Clinch is not available due to local regulation:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Aruba, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bolivia, Bolivia, Botswana, Burundi, Cambodia, Cayman Islands, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cyprus, North Korea, Congo - Kinshasa, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Equatorial Guinea, Falkland Islands, Faroe Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Greenland, Guam, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Honduras, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Macao, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Martinique, Mauritania, Mauritius, Monaco, Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Niue, Norfolk Island, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Palestine, Panama, Pitcaim, Russia, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkmenistan Tuvalu, Uganda Ukraine, Virgin Islands, Vanuatu, Holy See Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe, Belgium, Bulgaria, Côte d’Ivoire, Croatia, Czechia, Egypt, Estonia, France, French Guiana, French Southern Territories, Greece, Hungary, Indonesia, India, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Malaysia, Malta, Montenegro, Nigeria, North Macedonia, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Türkiye, India

In the United States, these states are also restricted:
Arkansas, Louisiana, Connecticut, South Dakota ,Delaware, Indiana, Maine


That said, VPN users may have a different experience.... To be clear, I am not suggesting to use a VPN, just saying that VPN users may have a different experience.  Just sayin' Smiley

Let me see if I can get approval from the big bosses at THNDR for the copper membership Smiley

It's very sad that my country always prohibits gambling. If only VPN could be an alternative for having fun, maybe I would continue to play from one platform to another.


It's sad, but from my personal belief, a centralized crypto casino/service that follows and respects where they can allow users and where they can't allow them is a sign that they're serious in becoming a long term service for cryptocurrency users.

Although, other serious developers could also follow a different path that they will not respect the rules of each region and build their service directly on top of the Bitcoin blockchain, or probably directly on top of the Lightning Network?


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October 26, 2024, 07:31:39 AM
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Here are the geos where Clinch is not available due to local regulation:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Aruba, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bolivia, Bolivia, Botswana, Burundi, Cambodia, Cayman Islands, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cyprus, North Korea, Congo - Kinshasa, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Equatorial Guinea, Falkland Islands, Faroe Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Greenland, Guam, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Honduras, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Macao, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Martinique, Mauritania, Mauritius, Monaco, Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Niue, Norfolk Island, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Palestine, Panama, Pitcaim, Russia, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkmenistan Tuvalu, Uganda Ukraine, Virgin Islands, Vanuatu, Holy See Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe, Belgium, Bulgaria, Côte d’Ivoire, Croatia, Czechia, Egypt, Estonia, France, French Guiana, French Southern Territories, Greece, Hungary, Indonesia, India, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Malaysia, Malta, Montenegro, Nigeria, North Macedonia, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Türkiye, India

In the United States, these states are also restricted:
Arkansas, Louisiana, Connecticut, South Dakota ,Delaware, Indiana, Maine


That said, VPN users may have a different experience.... To be clear, I am not suggesting to use a VPN, just saying that VPN users may have a different experience.  Just sayin' Smiley

Let me see if I can get approval from the big bosses at THNDR for the copper membership Smiley

It's very sad that my country always prohibits gambling. If only VPN could be an alternative for having fun, maybe I would continue to play from one platform to another.


It's sad, but from my personal belief, a centralized crypto casino/service that follows and respects where they can allow users and where they can't allow them is a sign that they're serious in becoming a long term service for cryptocurrency users.

Although, other serious developers could also follow a different path that they will not respect the rules of each region and build their service directly on top of the Bitcoin blockchain, or probably directly on top of the Lightning Network?

Such developers that build their casino on top of the bitcoin blockchain or directly on top the lighting networks, or perhaps, on top another blockchain network that is not bitcoin simply build a decentralized gambling system, and you can't say that that is a disrespect to regions where casinos and gambling are banned, because Decentralization is in the first place was never meant to respect laws, decentralization is all about freedom, freedom to be in absolute control of your own finances and decisions as it patterns to gambling and other services.

But on the other hand as well, I agree with you that a centralized casino that restricted regions where gambling is not allowed from accessing their casino, indeed shows respect, it will be disrespectful if they do otherwise, but that also will potentially land them in serious legal trouble if the government of that region takes the issue up.

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October 28, 2024, 01:17:13 PM
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Such developers that build their casino on top of the bitcoin blockchain or directly on top the lighting networks, or perhaps, on top another blockchain network that is not bitcoin simply build a decentralized gambling system, and you can't say that that is a disrespect to regions where casinos and gambling are banned, because Decentralization is in the first place was never meant to respect laws, decentralization is all about freedom, freedom to be in absolute control of your own finances and decisions as it patterns to gambling and other services.


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Ser, get the context. I said a centralized service that respects the laws of some regions BECAUSE it wants to he a long term service for cryptocurrency users. It can't do that if the government of some nation-state could seize their domain.

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But on the other hand as well, I agree with you that a centralized casino that restricted regions where gambling is not allowed from accessing their casino, indeed shows respect, it will be disrespectful if they do otherwise, but that also will potentially land them in serious legal trouble if the government of that region takes the issue up.


Plus it's not entirely about "respect". It's about the necessary things a centralized cryptocurrency company must do to continue their service.

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October 28, 2024, 03:11:46 PM
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Such developers that build their casino on top of the bitcoin blockchain or directly on top the lighting networks, or perhaps, on top another blockchain network that is not bitcoin simply build a decentralized gambling system, and you can't say that that is a disrespect to regions where casinos and gambling are banned, because Decentralization is in the first place was never meant to respect laws, decentralization is all about freedom, freedom to be in absolute control of your own finances and decisions as it patterns to gambling and other services.

But on the other hand as well, I agree with you that a centralized casino that restricted regions where gambling is not allowed from accessing their casino, indeed shows respect, it will be disrespectful if they do otherwise, but that also will potentially land them in serious legal trouble if the government of that region takes the issue up.

We can't escape from government's regulation especially if the casino is getting their license from legit authorities. Since crypto market is going mainstream, and so it needs to address the fact that it should follow the government protocols pertaining to this type of business.
But if the casino will keep their site to be truly decentralised, then, they will find a way how to preserve the anonymity factor of their users. Because if they can't respect such feature, then, definitely, they should not call their services as truly decentralised in nature.

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October 31, 2024, 08:38:02 PM
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Such developers that build their casino on top of the bitcoin blockchain or directly on top the lighting networks, or perhaps, on top another blockchain network that is not bitcoin simply build a decentralized gambling system,

But on the other hand as well, I agree with you that a centralized casino that restricted regions where gambling is not allowed from accessing their casino, indeed shows respect, it will be disrespectful if they do otherwise, but that also will potentially land them in serious legal trouble if the government of that region takes the issue up.
Actually a lot of projects now next to Bitcoin are centralized. Though indeed that the introduction of smart contracts, allows us to get introduced to De-Fi which is short for Decentralized-Finance. So there are still some decentralized projects on them.

I don't think it's about respect but it is just that like you said, they are only afraid that they will get into some serious troubles if they continue and that can also make them to not open up their business. So a small earnings are still better after all. But is it true what I said that they will only earn small? I think not because a lot of people are still into gambling right now, so the same individual can still keeps on coming back in the casino.
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