Introducing Clinch - a PvP bitcoin lightning wagering platform!

[adamTHNDR]

Hi Everybody

My name is Adam.  New to bitcointalk.org.  I work for THNDR Games and I am writing today to introduce our new product called Clinch!  

What is Clinch?

Clinch is a skill-based Solitaire game where two players compete against each other, trying to score the most points using the same deck of cards.  Each player places a wager (+ fee) over bitcoin lightning, with the winner taking the pot!


What makes Clinch different than other real-money Solitaire platforms?

Clinch requires no deposits and no withdrawal minimums.  Clinch uses bitcoin lightning as the native currency for wagering, which is the most globally accessible protocol to people around the world.  Each bet is paid directly from the user's off-platform bitcoin lightning wallet and all winnings are paid immediately to the user's off-platform bitcoin lightning wallet.  Besides that, Clinch verifies all rounds for fair play (unlike other platforms) and players always play against real players - no bots guaranteed!  

Are there other ways to earn bitcoin with Clinch?

Our referral program offers an incredible opportunity:  earn 10% (and more!) of the fees paid from every game played by the people you referred.  Unlimited referrals, unlimited payouts!  Unlike competitors, we pay you instantly for every match your referred friend plays.


Use our referral code, CLINCHED, which gifts you a 50% discount on fees! No deposits, no withdrawal limits, just instant payouts! Try Clinch now!


I would be happy to answer any questions or hear any feedback you have about Clinch!  Thank you for reading.

[Crypto Library]

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Welcome to the bitcointalk community. It is really good to see that new casino are entering in bitcointalk forum. By the way why don't you buy a copper membership to make your ANN thread more gorgeous I mean you will be able to show the Image by purchasing the Coppermembership here.

Anyway I have an issue with your site when I click for play now it takes me to this page, I haven't use any VPN , Do you have regional restrictions?



https://play.clinch.gg/unavailable

[adamTHNDR]

Here are the geos where Clinch is not available due to local regulation:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Aruba, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bolivia, Bolivia, Botswana, Burundi, Cambodia, Cayman Islands, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cyprus, North Korea, Congo - Kinshasa, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Equatorial Guinea, Falkland Islands, Faroe Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Greenland, Guam, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Honduras, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Macao, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Martinique, Mauritania, Mauritius, Monaco, Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Niue, Norfolk Island, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Palestine, Panama, Pitcaim, Russia, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkmenistan Tuvalu, Uganda Ukraine, Virgin Islands, Vanuatu, Holy See Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe, Belgium, Bulgaria, Côte d’Ivoire, Croatia, Czechia, Egypt, Estonia, France, French Guiana, French Southern Territories, Greece, Hungary, Indonesia, India, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Malaysia, Malta, Montenegro, Nigeria, North Macedonia, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Türkiye, India

In the United States, these states are also restricted:
Arkansas, Louisiana, Connecticut, South Dakota ,Delaware, Indiana, Maine


That said, VPN users may have a different experience.... To be clear, I am not suggesting to use a VPN, just saying that VPN users may have a different experience.  Just sayin'

Let me see if I can get approval from the big bosses at THNDR for the copper membership

[AbuBhakar]

Despite my interest on playing PvP games I’m always hesitant to try this type of game online because there’s no way to verify if you are playing against player, bot or player using tools to play against you.

But I like the idea of PVP solitaire because this is one way to apply gambling on this card game. I just don’t know how can you guarantee fairness on each game that every player is playing against 100% real player on the other hand with fair games.

Btw nice website you’ve got. Aside from my trust issue your casino might be a hit in the future.

[Nrcewker]

Let me see if I can get approval from the big bosses at THNDR for the copper membership

Along with the copper membership, you should also try to run some promotions here in the forum. This will help you grab potential gamblers from the forum. Additionally, if a casino runs any sort of promotion, then it proves that they are legit and trying all the possible ways to represent them in a professional manner among the members here. This also helps to build trust about the casino among the members. I checked the site, and it prompted me to download the iOS app. I thought to check the reviews at the App Store, but till now it has 0 reviews. I hope you get more successful with your casino OP. I will leave a detailed review soon after checking the game/site.

[acroman08]

That said, VPN users may have a different experience.... To be clear, I am not suggesting to use a VPN, just saying that VPN users may have a different experience.  Just sayin'

so just to be clear, your platform allow the usage of a VPN? because if your platform does not allow the use of VPN and if a player is found out to be using a VPN and their account will be banned, I think it'll be better to say it now just to prevent hassle in the future instead of saying "VPN users may have a different experience".

[robelneo]

Two things that impressed me with your platform were the way you pick the domain extension,.gg, .gg means good game and is very related to online games, and the write-up  from three reputable online publishing sites we seldom see platforms like Coindesk, Bitcoinmagazine and GamblingInsider write article praising a gambling platform.

You have a good platform worthy of promotion so follow all the recommendations here and you are good to go and you will have a lot of support.

[adamTHNDR]

Despite my interest on playing PvP games I’m always hesitant to try this type of game online because there’s no way to verify if you are playing against player, bot or player using tools to play against you.

In the future we are adding a way so be able to replay your opponents moves, so you can check they got a valid score or learn what they did differently.

At the moment, we actually hash each move the user makes, so we compare hashes server side to confirm the moves the users client says they made create a valid hash

[adamTHNDR]

That said, VPN users may have a different experience.... To be clear, I am not suggesting to use a VPN, just saying that VPN users may have a different experience.  Just sayin'

so just to be clear, your platform allow the usage of a VPN? because if your platform does not allow the use of VPN and if a player is found out to be using a VPN and their account will be banned

Nope, we do not check or care if you use VPN.  You might see that note when you land the home page.  If you do, it means that you've VPN'ed into a restricted area or your IP is associated with a restricted area.  Of course, if you are using a VPN, you can probably change your location.  But again, just sayin'

[Upgrade00]

<snip>and I am writing today to introduce our new product called Clinch!  

Do you have restrictions for certain regions? Trying to access the website returns a "problem loading page" error and I tried across different browsers with the same result.

[iv4n]

I guess this is the same thing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5509590.msg64545772#msg64545772

That said, VPN users may have a different experience.... To be clear, I am not suggesting to use a VPN, just saying that VPN users may have a different experience.  Just sayin'

so just to be clear, your platform allow the usage of a VPN? because if your platform does not allow the use of VPN and if a player is found out to be using a VPN and their account will be banned

Nope, we do not check or care if you use VPN.  You might see that note when you land the home page.  If you do, it means that you've VPN'ed into a restricted area or your IP is associated with a restricted area.  Of course, if you are using a VPN, you can probably change your location.  But again, just sayin'

Another similar thread and the OP can't say much like the first OP.

Looks like you are not an official representative of this casino, and you can't say that users can use VPN. "Just sayin' doesn't mean much if I need to risk my money and get banned if I win.

The list of banned countries is very long, if you banned most countries who will play on your site? Just sayin'...

[Wiwo]

Despite my interest on playing PvP games I’m always hesitant to try this type of game online because there’s no way to verify if you are playing against player, bot or player using tools to play against you.

But I like the idea of PVP solitaire because this is one way to apply gambling on this card game. I just don’t know how can you guarantee fairness on each game that every player is playing against 100% real player on the other hand with fair games.

Btw nice website you’ve got. Aside from my trust issue your casino might be a hit in the future.

Very well said alot of times most of the in house games providers are constantly manipulating the system to favor the house and this made even bot usage by some casino to have advantage over the player so for that it very well OK to make extra effort to verify the games and at some point it very interesting to know that majority of them are vastly unfair to the players.

Anyways welcome to this forum and we look forward to seeing more of you here, also to adopt some of the recommendations.

[adamTHNDR]

<snip>and I am writing today to introduce our new product called Clinch!  

Do you have restrictions for certain regions? Trying to access the website returns a "problem loading page" error and I tried across different browsers with the same result.

Up at the top of this thread, you can find the list of regions that are restricted b/c of local laws. 

[adamTHNDR]

I guess this is the same thing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5509590.msg64545772#msg64545772

That said, VPN users may have a different experience.... To be clear, I am not suggesting to use a VPN, just saying that VPN users may have a different experience.  Just sayin'

so just to be clear, your platform allow the usage of a VPN? because if your platform does not allow the use of VPN and if a player is found out to be using a VPN and their account will be banned

Nope, we do not check or care if you use VPN.  You might see that note when you land the home page.  If you do, it means that you've VPN'ed into a restricted area or your IP is associated with a restricted area.  Of course, if you are using a VPN, you can probably change your location.  But again, just sayin'

Another similar thread and the OP can't say much like the first OP.

Looks like you are not an official representative of this casino, and you can't say that users can use VPN. "Just sayin' doesn't mean much if I need to risk my money and get banned if I win.

The list of banned countries is very long, if you banned most countries who will play on your site? Just sayin'...

I will be more clear ....  Use a VPN. 

RE: Do I work for THNDR?  Well, I am the only Adam working at THNDR games.  I'm sure you can verify that with a Google search if you wish.  Write me an email, I will respond  

[adamTHNDR]

Very well said alot of times most of the in house games providers are constantly manipulating the system to favor the house and this made even bot usage by some casino to have advantage over the player so for that it very well OK to make extra effort to verify the games and at some point it very interesting to know that majority of them are vastly unfair to the players.

Anyways welcome to this forum and we look forward to seeing more of you here, also to adopt some of the recommendations.

Yeah, we suspect other platforms may use bots to fake competition.  Or course, we cannot prove this.  

As mentioned above, we actually hash each move the user makes, so we compare hashes server side to confirm the moves the users client says they made create a valid hash.

I urge you to reach out to us, ask around about THNDR Games.  I believe we are somewhat known in the bitcoin community.  Please check out website and socials.  We've been around awhile, mostly making Free-to-play games.  We've just recently ventured into real-money (bitcoin) gaming when we knew we built a good Solitaire game

[DiMarxist]

You are welcome to the Bitcoin forum and feel free to navigate around the forum. From my visitation to the website I liked what I saw.

Simply pay for matches as you go! No waiting for days or weeks - your earnings are sent to your wallet immediately after each win!

and if things are done like this then there will be no problem between gamblers and casinos again. Can this be done by other casinos too? Let your gambling win directly withdraw to your connected wallet and the capital would be in the casino?

[adamTHNDR]

You are welcome to the Bitcoin forum and feel free to navigate around the forum. From my visitation to the website I liked what I saw.

Simply pay for matches as you go! No waiting for days or weeks - your earnings are sent to your wallet immediately after each win!

and if things are done like this then there will be no problem between gamblers and casinos again. Can this be done by other casinos too? Let your gambling win directly withdraw to your connected wallet and the capital would be in the casino?

Thank you!

We believe instant payouts is one of our key value propositions. 

[SamReomo]

We believe instant payouts is one of our key value propositions. 

Welcome to the forum, that's a really awesome feature which a platform offers but I saw that the platform you're promoting here isn't available in many regions and if that's the case then what if users go with a VPN to avoid regional restrictions. It's good to know that you guys somehow allow VPN connections but is there any safeguard that the ones who use VPN may not have any problems in future?

I would also suggest you to first purchase Cooper membership and update the announcement thread with some images. And, once the announcement thread is fully updated then it's far better to do some marketing here to get more exposure. I suggest you to talk with Icopress, he's an awesome manager who can help you a lot in marketing. Best of Luck.

[DiMarxist]

We believe instant payouts is one of our key value propositions.  

This is what most gamblers wanted for and you have brought it to their notice so expect more people to visit the site. And I will also advise you to quickly pick a good manager in the forum to launch a long lasting campaign so that you casino with be one of the best casino in the forum. You need campaign in this casino for more awareness. You can contact any manager right way.
I am saying this because the casino heist s too good to delay. I wish you all the best.

[yahoo62278]

We believe instant payouts is one of our key value propositions. 

This most gamblers wanted for and you have brought it to their notice so expect more people to visit the site. And I will also advise you to quickly pick a good manager in the forum to launch a long lasting campaign so that you casino with be one of the best casino in the forum. You need campaign in this casino for more awareness. You can contact any manager right way.
I am saying this because the casino heist s too good to delay. I wish you all the best.

Launching a campaign could help get them some traffic, but it's not a guarantee at all. It really kinda aggitates me when people who have no clue make assumptions such as launch a campaign and you'll be the best. That's not how it works.

Could a campaign help? Yes of course, but along with launching a campaign there has to be other promotions being offered to help get users to the site. There has to be reasons for people to want to even open the site besides well they have a signature campaign.

@OP if you have a budget and are open to other promos, feel free to contact me to help you out. Don't fall for the trap from some that I am sure have sent you a pm already. People will lie to get a gig so don't instantly believe everyone who might be sending a pm.