Fixed match or not?

[YOSHIE]

Do you believe if the match Kerekegyhazi SE vs Palmonostora wasn't a fixed match?

Indeed, Palmonostora could be said to be a weak team, but the score was 43-1, my understanding is that there was something planned to fix the score, it looks unreasonable, indeed this news has created great attention for the U-14 competition league.

I quoted what trainer @Miklosi GYFE said.

This is the source of suspicion. “Our match referee came after his colleague called to find out the result of the match. He said 1-0. then, his colleague said that the final result of the match he was leading was 43-1. that doesn't make sense," said Miklosi GYFE coach, Balint Erdos, as quoted by Football5Star.net from RTL.

No matter how bad or weak the team is, to score as coach Kerekegyhazi said, it is impossible.

In the match which lasted 80 minutes, according to the Baon newspaper, a special highlight was given to the 60th minute. It was at that time that 3 goals came into Palmonostora's goal. Overall, of the 43 goals scored by Kerekegyhazi, 32 of them were made by 3 players. Gabor Kurtosi and Sandor Szombati both scored 11 goals, while Kevin Polyak netted 10 goals.

@Viktor Kiraly, mentioned so.

[KTChampions]

Pretty much a fixed match. Otherwise, scoring all these 43 goals is impossible. Man it's 1 goal every 2 minute almost lol.

Very likely, but still this team (which lost) even without this game has terrible statistics - 3 points in 16 games and a goal difference of -131. It is clear that if we add this strange game it will be -174 and 43 from 174 is an incredibly high percentage for one game, but it would still be interesting to see more details (maybe there were 2 red cards) or even a video of this game.

[Yatsan]

Easy to tell but hard to conclude, actually. The teams are the only ones who could determine whether it is a fixed maatch or not, as audience we may only assume based on our opinions.

I really don't believe that this match is fixed, because realistically, who would benefit from it?

In the last match, Kerekeghyazi SE pulled off an incredible victory with a 43-1 triumph over their opponents clinching the title with 43points and a goal difference of 132 and 131 for Miklosi GYFE, thereby securing the 42 goal difference needed for the win by just one goal.

The team that scored 43 times managed to win the season by having the same points as the runner-ups but one goal advantage.
So they scored exactly what was needed, if they would have won by 37 to 1 they would have lost the championship!

Obviously staged but not for betting, it was so the team could win the season, they scored 3 goals in one minute!
I doubt any bookie would pay on this match, besides, who would bet on a u14 regional (not national) league match in Hungary?

Indeed the downside with smaller leagues and tournaments. Fixed matches are more evident on these match ups simply because only a few has the power to question the outcome unlike with bigger leagues wherein it would explode the moment people know about this cheating scheme. However, whether it is fixed or not, the decision has already been published and the only thing you could do is to move on and be careful with the next league you would engage yourself with. Not to normalize but this will be a part of the game for long. There are just people who are willing to take advantage of others just to win and make profit.

[Oshosondy]

In the match which lasted 80 minutes, according to the Baon newspaper, a special highlight was given to the 60th minute. It was at that time that 3 goals came into Palmonostora's goal. Overall, of the 43 goals scored by Kerekegyhazi, 32 of them were made by 3 players. Gabor Kurtosi and Sandor Szombati both scored 11 goals, while Kevin Polyak netted 10 goals.

Not even 90 minutes not to talk of 5 to 10 minutes extra time. But in the game, was the players of the opponent team that was won flawlessly gotten like 1 or 2 red cards? This can cause it but I do not know if anyone was given red card. I wanted to track the match statistics but I am seeing nothing online about it. I will not be bothered about this because this is not just a lower league but also a junior league. I bet on common leagues like premier league, serial A and other high ones which manipulation is not significant like the way it is in the low and unrecognized leagues.

[Slow death]

It is a fact that this result is very suspicious because in that game both teams agreed on the result, but I highly doubt that they would have agreed on the result for people to bet on, because even if both teams had not agreed on the result, it is still this team that scored a lot of goals would have won, they would have won with just a few goals. So, in my opinion, we are not dealing with a game in which the result was combined with the intention of making money with bets. In that game the favorite team's objective was to score a lot of goals to become champions, so they must have agreed with the opponent to make it easier for them to score a lot of goals, but this will be very difficult to prove.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Pretty much a fixed match. Otherwise, scoring all these 43 goals is impossible. Man it's 1 goal every 2 minute almost lol.

😂 😂 😂
Clearly the very same thought I had, since I was a kid and started hearing about football scores, this is the very first time I learnt a team scored 43 goals in one match, and their opponent scored just 1 goal in return , this clearly a fixed match indeed.

I mean, if we try to look at metrics, or statistics, I believe that team those guys who scored 43 goals played against was not a newly formed team, possibly some may assume they don't know how to play yet, and they were even playing with lesser number of players than their opponent, but even if they were playing with lesser number of players, 43 goals still won't be possible.
It's very obvious that they have been paid heavily to allow the other team score as much goals as they desire, and things like this is very common with local leagues, most especially the ones that are not known yet, and doesn't have all their matches airred live.

[Saint-loup]

It's a disgrace to see things like that, Kerekegyhazi team needed to score 42 goals to get the first rank thanks to the goal difference and they managed to do it in one single match LOL. But IMO it's not only the opposing team which has been corrupted unfortunately but also the referee in charge of the match. How he couldn't see anything wrong while one goal had been scored every 2 minutes on average? He should stop and abandon the match for serious unsporting conduct.

[Rruchi man]

It's strange that a match with a goal count of 43:1 is clearly a fixed match.

It is a match-fixing between two stupid teams because if the score line had been less and normal, nobody would have been suspecting a case of fraud, because how can a team concede 43 times?

I mean, if we try to look at metrics, or statistics, I believe that team those guys who scored 43 goals played against was not a newly formed team, possibly some may assume they don't know how to play yet, and they were even playing with lesser number of players than their opponent, but even if they were playing with lesser number of players, 43 goals still won't be possible.

Even when we played street unprofessional football some years ago when we were younger, it was not possible that the other team scored 43 times, and we were only able to just 1 time.  If it was even a high scoring game, both teams score more than a goal.

[Adbitco]

Pretty much a fixed match. Otherwise, scoring all these 43 goals is impossible. Man it's 1 goal every 2 minute almost lol.

Maybe they scores in every minute because I can't imagine where such thing is possible to occur or do we say the entire team was bribe to play against the other? This is impossible.

[Eternad]

Pretty much a fixed match. Otherwise, scoring all these 43 goals is impossible. Man it's 1 goal every 2 minute almost lol.

I double check what’s this sports after seeing the 42-1. I doubted at first that this is a football match yet it’s confirmed when I search the team name.

However, I do some research about if there’s an incident like this that involves high scoring and it surprised me that the highest score in football of all time is this match AS Adema 149-0 Stade Olympique de l'Emyrn which is crazy almost x3 of the match in question here.  

[acroman08]

does anyone know if there is a video of the match between these two teams? I am really curious to see how the hell they were able to score that much, did the other mean even try to defend or anything?

Do you believe if the match Kerekegyhazi SE vs Palmonostora wasn't a fixed match?

I'm leaning on it as a fixed match, I mean it is hard not to suspect it, especially when the gap in the score between these two teams is ridiculously high.

[Hispo]

I would definitely call it a fixed match.
Even if we were talking about teams which have much of a history in difference, there is no way they could have gotten which a goal difference if both teams were giving the best of themselves.
Take as an example the infamous match between Brazil and Germany back in 2014, when Germany got 7 goals against the one single goal for the Brazilian selection. That was scandalous enough for people from Brazil to consider it a national tragedy. They are very rooted in football, after all.

Soo, seeing things like this it is like a reminder who is supposed to stay away from certain leagues and also specific selections,.which have proven themselves already to be willing to sell themselves for the benefit of the local mafias and criminal groups.
Very disappointing if you deeply think about it 

[darewaller]

Well, it's suspicious, obviously, but there are certain things one should consider before concluding. If these matches are being recorded, and if there are casinos or sports betting platforms providing betting opportunities for these matches, then there is a high chance that the match was fixed, but if there is nothing of that nature, I don't see any reason behind fixing a match in an under-14 league where even the prize money for the winner wouldn't be very high. From the tally card, I am seeing there are two teams with same level of points which means they might have tried to fix this match for reputation reasons. This is just an assumption and nothing more.

Then again, if we look at some of the recent matches and the points table, there haven't been a lot of matches with this many goals, if many matches had the same results or all better teams were scoring a lot of goals against weaker opponents, this wouldn't have been considered odd at all, but that isn't the case here.

[Assface16678]

Well, thats too obvious. I mean, the score, 43 - 1? Even the weakest team could score more than that, but it's suspicious that they make a very huge gap; it's like a fixed match wherein they give way to the other team, but they should not make it too obvious because people, especially fans, are not willing to believe in such a result because it's way too obvious. For sure, it will be investigated, but there is also a chance that they will let it slide because, of course, authorities will cover it because it may be planned and set up by a big client or what. But it's just so annoying that fixed matches are becoming legal. I mean, they are turning a blind eye to this because they can't do anything. Anyway, for those of us who bet on sports, we should pick when and what team we should bet on because fixed matches can be easily set or fixed.

[Casdinyard]

There's a case in Hungarian U14 league where Kerekegyhazi SE beat Palmonostora for 43-1 which make Kerekegyhazi SE has 42 points goal difference advantage. The thing is, Miklosi GYFE have a same point like Kerekegyhazi SE, but they only had one point behind Kerekegyhazi SE in goal difference. Although Palmonostora is the weakest team and other teams farming points from Palmonostora, but with one point difference between Kerekegyhazi SE and Miklosi GYFE, it's really strange.

Do you believe if the match Kerekegyhazi SE vs Palmonostora wasn't a fixed match?


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/hungary-u14-football-team-goals-32933510

Only way they could collect a 1 goal per 2 minute average as some blokes here is saying is if Palmonostora team's filled with paraplegics and handicaps, like I've seen weakest teams in a couple of minor leagues still fare better than them. Pretty sure they are getting paid to suck like this and if they are then I just hope and pray the money's much more worth it than the glory cause if an investigation's placed and they were found to be guilty of taking payments to be kicked in the shin when in play they might lose their seed for good and be banned for play forever, which is not out of the window as well for every other team to be found involved in this debacle.

Although if they did this shit earlier in the run it might not affect the whole quality of the game itself, they become a filter for teams, so stronger teams can be pitted against each other at an earlier seed, so on and so forth. This is a little stretch though, and I'm pretty sure that it's more likely that they are to receive punishment than get away scot-free from this.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Fixed match with 43 goals? Who does that? It's kind of strange, but even if this was a fixed match, It was done in a very obvious way which they would have just made the match with other clubs (at least 3 different clubs) rather than just fix it with one club and hit all the goals there. A terrible way of doing something without applying common sense. This is obviously a fixed match.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Fixed match with 43 goals? Who does that? It's kind of strange, but even if this was a fixed match, It was done in a very obvious way which they would have just made the match with other clubs (at least 3 different clubs) rather than just fix it with one club and hit all the goals there. A terrible way of doing something without applying common sense. This is obviously a fixed match.

Haha, while I was hanging out with some of my friends yesterday, we actually went out to play football, and when we were done playing around 7 pm in the evening, we sat there in the field discussing about football, and then I remembered this incident as shared by the op here, I and immediately opened this discussion with them.

They were exactly of the same opinion as you, they said this was clearly a fixed match, but on the other, that the both team involved in this are very foolish because they made it too obvious, and if possible, both team should be banned from playing, this was their opinion.

Personally, I believe that if they had left the scores at maybe 5 : 1, or 6 : 2, people wouldn't have suspected this to be a fixed match, but then, 43 goals to 1 is way too obvious.

[doomloop]

No matter how weak a team is, it is impossible to score 1goal every 2mins+ upto 43 goals. The reason why I said so it that, after scoring your opponent needs to pass the ball and there is no amount of weakness that will make the ball not to delay more than that time. IMO, it was turn consecutely which I don't believe it is possible.

In leagues like this, it is used to make money and that is why they allow the manipulation and match fixing to continue. It is better not to bet on such leagues, otherwise, you will run at loss.

That is what others are saying that it was fixed. With the amount of users who agree, I think there is no reason to disagree even though I have less knowledge about the game or analysing what happened. This might be Lower league because if it's a higher one, many people are witnessing on it and it's a bit stricter.

Any leagues or whether fixed match or not, we can still make money at them if we are lucky and we still can increase our chance of winning in non-fixed games, as long as we have a good knowledge in the game. When I say game, it's not only limited on the game it-self but this includes players, environment, weather, etc... . It's crazy if they allow manipulation to happen here but if we don't have an info, indeed, it's not recommended to bet here because we can mostly lose here.

[joniboini]

They were exactly of the same opinion as you, they said this was clearly a fixed match, but on the other, that the both team involved in this are very foolish because they made it too obvious, and if possible, both team should be banned from playing, this was their opinion.

I guess we need to wait for the investigation result, but if it was indeed a fixed match they must have something huge if they can afford to risk their future just to rig this one match. Then again I'm not sure how amazing the U-18 football league is. It is hard to understand the worth of one football match compared to their years of training in the academy. Maybe they got tricked too? Who knows.

The funny thing is if the investigation concludes with no foul play being found. Some people will argue that it is impossible, while others will conclude that the other team must be really bad. The number of bets placed on them losing would increase dramatically I assume. CMIIW.