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June 02, 2024, 08:42:13 AM
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There's a case in Hungarian U14 league where Kerekegyhazi SE beat Palmonostora for 43-1 which make Kerekegyhazi SE has 42 points goal difference advantage. The thing is, Miklosi GYFE have a same point like Kerekegyhazi SE, but they only had one point behind Kerekegyhazi SE in goal difference. Although Palmonostora is the weakest team and other teams farming points from Palmonostora, but with one point difference between Kerekegyhazi SE and Miklosi GYFE, it's really strange.

Do you believe if the match Kerekegyhazi SE vs Palmonostora wasn't a fixed match? Huh


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June 02, 2024, 09:00:59 AM
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Pretty much a fixed match. Otherwise, scoring all these 43 goals is impossible. Man it's 1 goal every 2 minute almost lol.

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June 02, 2024, 09:06:00 AM
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Definitely strange, the best team destroying the weakest team and then the second strongest team having a hard time, there's really something going on and I think that you're right, this isn't just a case of farming points, someone's trying to manipulate the system so they can have all of the advantage when betting. Maybe this is really just a really big display of skill gap between the two teams and maybe including the second place team, and that the first team has such as skill gap with their second that it looks like this but then again, why would FCs pay for this kind of players if they can't play really good.
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June 02, 2024, 09:11:07 AM
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I do not know so well about this league but everything here looks very suspicious. In my estimation, it doesn't matter if Palmonostora is the weakest team in the league, it is obvious that something is fishy by just looking at the unusually high scoreline and then the narrow goal difference margin in the league between Kerekegyhazi SE and Miklosi GYFE. How can they possibly win by that margin in one game when Miklosi whose performance has been impressive in the league hasn't achieve such high scores in their games?

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June 02, 2024, 09:13:33 AM
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Pretty much a fixed match. Otherwise, scoring all these 43 goals is impossible. Man it's 1 goal every 2 minute almost lol.
It means in every 2 minutes and some seconds, a goal is scored. I have seen matches like this in the past but I always think they are fixed matches. The match is under investigation and I think one of the 22 or more under 14 players should be able to tell the truth. The club they played with is not strong and there are sometimes that a team can be weak to the extent that can make something like this to occur. I will say it might be fixed or not. I am not sure if it is fixed or not.

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June 02, 2024, 09:21:23 AM
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it's pretty strange as outcome in football. any suspect is well deserved Roll Eyes .
just because it's really hard score so many goals. it's like each shot was a goal and goalkeeper was off.
ok they are under14 but get so many goals sounds a bit impossible...

well, there is the chance for betting on these events? there are prizes for teams that won the championship?
if the answer is yes ok it's better look further... but I would not be surprised they have just the worst gooalkeeper of the region...

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June 02, 2024, 10:05:59 AM
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It's strange that a match with a goal count of 43:1 is clearly a fixed match.

Rushing to Youtube to find out more about this match because it is beyond reason, it is said that the federation has started an investigation with this result, then Kerekegyhazi admitted that he said they targeted 50 goals throughout the match but only managed 43 goals they did this is really strange. Grin


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June 02, 2024, 10:07:45 AM
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Lol Grin Grin is this a real match? Huh funny because I can't really believe they scored all 43 goals.

Which means out of eleven players including goal keeper had at least 3 goals each and maybe the striker had the rest to make it up 43.

pretty much fixed match here because I can't read any more meaning to why a team will have to score up to that number of goals in a match.


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June 02, 2024, 10:14:46 AM
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Scuse me but 43??? Even ignoring the fact about the Miklosi team just the fact that a team was able to score 43 points in one match is odd already. It's also irrespective of being the weakest team or not really. I mean it's a team that got in to the league, I highly doubt that their level of skill is THAT low to create that much of a gap. That'd be possible I guess if it were adults vs kids. Even if it was under 14, at most I'd have expected maybe 20 points or so of a gap.

The other team just did the bare minimum of moving along the field to make it seem legit lol.

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June 02, 2024, 10:15:03 AM
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Pretty much a fixed match. Otherwise, scoring all these 43 goals is impossible. Man it's 1 goal every 2 minute almost lol.

Well actually its even less

Im not sure about U14 Hungarian League rules but in England U14 usually plays for 35 minutes on each half instead of 45 minutes. Some other parts of the world actually implement the game to be 30 minutes long on each half

So yeah actually with 44 goals in total ( 1 goal from the opposing team ) that totals up to around 1 goal every 1.6 minutes lol. This including all those celebrations obviously and getting back onto the position for each team after a goal was scored which could take up less than 1.5 minutes per goal scored  Roll Eyes

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June 02, 2024, 10:21:08 AM
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That’s an incredible scoreline result in any match is eyebrow-raising. While it's not unusual for stronger teams to dominate weaker ones, the timing and magnitude of the victory do seem suspicious, particularly with the narrow goal difference margin between the top teams, it might just be a case of a very one-sided match. With so much at stake, it's hard not to wonder if something more might be at play. Do you think there should be an investigation to clear things up?

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June 02, 2024, 10:32:47 AM
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Really strange, but not necessarily a fixed match. Very exceptional results happen from time to time (although this one is utterly exceptional) and maybe Kerekegyhazi SE discovered a gap in Palmonostora's defense and simply exploited it again and again, with the impotence of his rival.

Further investigation is needed to determine whether the match was rigged or not. Such a result sets off all the alarms, but we can't ignore that everybody is innocent until proven guilty.

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June 02, 2024, 12:21:49 PM
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I really don't believe that this match is fixed, because realistically, who would benefit from it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't see anywhere that it was possible to bet on such competitions. It is possible that the team that conceded so many goals was significantly weakened, and that it did not have adequate substitutes, and the opposing team obviously had no mercy at all.

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June 02, 2024, 12:21:58 PM
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For this to determine the rumor of a fixed match, there should be a betting spread for this game. Though the total goals are quite strange, as that is too much to score in one game, like I mentioned, we need the betting spread to build a case here.

There are a lot of games that have rumored to have fixed matches, but only a few are confirmed, most of them from small leagues. So, if we don't trust the league, as betting on them would not result in a profit for us, then we should stay away.

On that note from @op, it's only a fixed match once proven after the investigation.

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June 02, 2024, 12:23:30 PM
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Record-breaking number of goals but unfortunately it was only at U14. But it's strange to me. Roll Eyes

Whether Palmonostora has lost big before or only in this match is it true to concede big, this is definitely unnatural 40 goals more crazy... Shocked

I don't know what happened whether there is the influence of the bookie or the owner who wants to be the champion, but the federation considers this unnatural if you think using logic I know Palmonostora is the weakest team but at least it is impossible 43 goals conceded.

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Do you believe if the match Kerekegyhazi SE vs Palmonostora wasn't a fixed match? Huh

it's obvious a fixed match.

This is modern football for crying out loud and not basket ball. How do you get to score this number of goals in a single match only in a scenario when you need more goals to help you get advantage of your rival? 43 goals in a single match? Even the local football we play on the street don't come with those numbers of goals even when you're playing agajnt a weaker opponent. The increase cases of fix matches Is becoming alarming as the day goes by and it's not good for the sports body. This is an obvious case because the goal difference is clear and glairing but when seen lots of matches even in the EPL that appears as though it's all fixed. The thing is that when you cheat with this numbers if goals it just gies to show hiw disorganized the league is cause this kind of thing can never happen in the EPL or lailga.

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June 02, 2024, 01:21:47 PM
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It is obviously suspicious and deserves a second and third look.
The bottom placed team have conceded an average of 10 per match and they jump from that to 43. in one match, How did that happen? There are other variables to consider like that they were playing one of the best teams and that team had a target of goals they needed to score to win.

The best situation is in place now. They deserve a fair investigation and if found guilty, the appropriate punishment.

What I find most amusing is if this was done to win a bet, it will likely not go through not just yet. The website will perform their investigations and follow up the one done by the association. Such a heavy scoreline was never going under the carpet.

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I was about calculating the numbers of goals per minute against the 90 minutes of a football match which should be around 2 minutes + for each goal to have been scored.

However, it crossed my mind to search for the highest goals scored by a team in a football match and I saw:

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So I won't say the game in discuss is fixed or not and it has been confirmed that Palmonostora is much weaker.


Do you believe if the match Kerekegyhazi SE vs Palmonostora wasn't a fixed match? Huh




Moreover looking at the table, it seems that the league is the type that produces lots of goals. Like the weaker teams are such that any shot can go through the defense line and get to the goal post without a keeper there.

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I really don't believe that this match is fixed, because realistically, who would benefit from it?

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In the last match, Kerekeghyazi SE pulled off an incredible victory with a 43-1 triumph over their opponents clinching the title with 43points and a goal difference of 132 and 131 for Miklosi GYFE, thereby securing the 42 goal difference needed for the win by just one goal.

The team that scored 43 times managed to win the season by having the same points as the runner-ups but one goal advantage.
So they scored exactly what was needed, if they would have won by 37 to 1 they would have lost the championship!

Obviously staged but not for betting, it was so the team could win the season, they scored 3 goals in one minute!
I doubt any bookie would pay on this match, besides, who would bet on a u14 regional (not national) league match in Hungary?

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Pretty much a fixed match. Otherwise, scoring all these 43 goals is impossible. Man it's 1 goal every 2 minute almost lol.
It means in every 2 minutes and some seconds, a goal is scored. I have seen matches like this in the past but I always think they are fixed matches. The match is under investigation and I think one of the 22 or more under 14 players should be able to tell the truth. The club they played with is not strong and there are sometimes that a team can be weak to the extent that can make something like this to occur. I will say it might be fixed or not. I am not sure if it is fixed or not.
No matter how weak a team is, it is impossible to score 1goal every 2mins+ upto 43 goals. The reason why I said so it that, after scoring your opponent needs to pass the ball and there is no amount of weakness that will make the ball not to delay more than that time. IMO, it was turn consecutely which I don't believe it is possible.

In leagues like this, it is used to make money and that is why they allow the manipulation and match fixing to continue. It is better not to bet on such leagues, otherwise, you will run at loss.

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