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May 26, 2024, 09:59:34 PM
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Illegal under all circumstances, match fixing can devastate football's credibility once proven. While there are some cases where players or officials are believed to be involved in such actions (which usually means that they have broken rules and will face serious consequences), this is not common and typically involves both parties knowingly breaking these rules during the game. The incident with Tottenham and Manchester City might simply be coincidental; errors or poor decisions made during matches form part of the sport.

In general, most football organizations aim to preserve the integrity of the game. As for a match-fixing conspiracy theory, I think this must be based on real grounds and strong evidence, because otherwise this will only further damage people's trust in football. Therefore let's take an assessment based on facts and real evidence.
Exactly. While match fixing is not legal in all aspects, but it should also be supported with reliable proofs and evidences and not just by any heresays. Because first and foremost, not all players or coaches fall on match fixing, as majority still want to achieve the good integrity and reputation of the game. Except for those who have selfish intentions from the start the reason why they have to deliberately get involved theirselves in such game. Otherwise, if match fixing is not proven by proofs and honest evidences, this match fixing will never be stopped or even prevented.

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May 26, 2024, 10:09:04 PM
 #102

I believe about this match fixing, which is happened not only in football but also in cricket, racings as well as others games. And we already heard about many players whom were accused match fixing and ban from Matches. Do you think, they get banned without any solid proof? Of course not. Authority wouldn't action against a player without any solid proof. There are many incidents like Tottenham and the Manchester city incident. If you start investigation l, you'll found many more. Although if someone claim that they have fixing match results, then that's fake of course. Cause that guy could stake himself with big odd and won a big amount. He doesn't need to sell match fixing tips for some dollars. Be careful about these cheaters.

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May 26, 2024, 10:09:21 PM
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Well there is every possibility that it may happened because they can be easily influenced, but most times we could have the lower league easily being manipulated for the other to win in the favor of the those that hteamas already fixed the match according to how it would play and lot of people could subscribe to it to happen so easily. I think I heard a similar story of a player who purposefully being paid to manipulation the game there about.

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May 26, 2024, 10:27:53 PM
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I learned that some wrestling and boxing games are usually scripted and must end according to how it was scripted but in football matches I doubt if it's very possible to do such. Recently I also come across a topic that the OP was talking about how corrupt some football player are becoming, they would make agreement with whale gamblers so that the game goes in favor of those gamblers which the players with be part of the profit share.

If all these information is true, then the football game is becoming corrupt too, although I still doubt that this kind of thing can happen in big clubs and leagues. It can be possible in some local match with small clubs but it can hardly happens in international league.

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May 26, 2024, 10:32:56 PM
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In some games the match can be fixed and bought and I hard stories with football also being a possible ground for match fixing but I don't know how true and effective that could be, and also we are aware of some games aside from football which are scripted most times this games are directed to favor a particular team or athletes which make the result to be unreal.


We also must know that even though there is possibility of a match fixing, it is also easier to see the results gone against those that fixed it, because in situations like football if the other team is not aware of any fixing and the match decide to favor them no matter the level of manipulation from either the referee it may not work for them as planned.

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May 26, 2024, 10:41:14 PM
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I believe about this match fixing, which is happened not only in football but also in cricket, racings as well as others games. And we already heard about many players whom were accused match fixing and ban from Matches. Do you think, they get banned without any solid proof? Of course not. Authority wouldn't action against a player without any solid proof. There are many incidents like Tottenham and the Manchester city incident. If you start investigation l, you'll found many more. Although if someone claim that they have fixing match results, then that's fake of course. Cause that guy could stake himself with big odd and won a big amount. He doesn't need to sell match fixing tips for some dollars. Be careful about these cheaters.
Match-fixing is a serious issue in most of sports, not only football exclusively. There are players and officials who got banned for involving in match-fixing. Authorities always work to monitor any attempt to do this kind of cheat in every sport, they will take accusations seriously to keep the sport on fair play basis. The people who are in an institution which have inside information to sell for the interested party, this can make them gaining big profits without much efforts.

Match-fixing undermines the integrity of sports and needs to be addressed. Investigators will need to fine a solid proof for authorities to ban anyone involved in the activity. People need to be aware of false information, the insiders won't sell the information for cheap price, because those have a high risk on their credibility. Match-fixing can ruin the excitement of sport, as the spectators also want to watch a fair game that bring enthusiasm for them.

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May 26, 2024, 11:49:04 PM
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Match fixing most definitely occurs but its a larger risk in the lower ranks.  It can happen even in the top games but its risky for those people who intend to throw in any way, just from the greater scrutiny applied to their actions but lesser games it can be overlooked more often.

Entire leagues can lose their way from this negative trend and its unfortunate that can occur.  Top games I would disbelieve its in occurrence and I do think its rare but we should still watch out for it, it seems everyone has a capacity for temptation so risk exists especially on 'specials' type bets.

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May 26, 2024, 11:59:12 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this

I doubt that there is classic match fixing going on in the top leagues. It could of course be, but the gesture that Guardiola went to shake his hand was due to the emotional exceptional situation I guess. Guardiola would be stupid if he knew that game was fixed and then actually goes there such that the whole world can see him shaking hands with a player from their opponent. It didn't look very nice though and I am not surprised that some people had the suspicion that Son Heung-min deliberately gave away that chance. But mistakes happen and I doubt it had anything to do with match fixing.

Though there can be other. forms of match fixing. Just remember how Bayern scored a goal against Real Madrid and the referee has blown the whistle, which is against all rules and you never see the referees raise the flag immediately when it is so close. Sometimes it is obviously offside and they still let the game continue just to be safe and in this case the referee immediately said it was offside. It was a very suspicious situation in that game and there were discussions for good reasons whether something was going on.
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May 27, 2024, 12:01:32 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this

I doubt that there is classic match fixing going on in the top leagues. It could of course be, but the gesture that Guardiola went to shake his hand was due to the emotional exceptional situation I guess. Guardiola would be stupid if he knew that game was fixed and then actually goes there such that the whole world can see him shaking hands with a player from their opponent. It didn't look very nice though and I am not surprised that some people had the suspicion that Son Heung-min deliberately gave away that chance. But mistakes happen and I doubt it had anything to do with match fixing.

Though there can be other. forms of match fixing. Just remember how Bayern scored a goal against Real Madrid and the referee has blown the whistle, which is against all rules and you never see the referees raise the flag immediately when it is so close. Sometimes it is obviously offside and they still let the game continue just to be safe and in this case the referee immediately said it was offside. It was a very suspicious situation in that game and there were discussions for good reasons whether something was going on.
Lets be honest here. Top league match-fixing? Some may find it unlikely. Its not like Guardiola is planning a coup, but he's a jerk. Perhaps he was in a tizzy. Maybe he wanted to be sportsmanlike despite losing. Perhaps the tale is more complex than we're told. Professional athletes, remember. Under pressure to perform, they may take drastic means. Son didnt miss that chance, but weirder things have happened. Anything is possible in this competitive business when millions are at stake.

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May 27, 2024, 04:04:27 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this

I doubt that there is classic match fixing going on in the top leagues. It could of course be, but the gesture that Guardiola went to shake his hand was due to the emotional exceptional situation I guess. Guardiola would be stupid if he knew that game was fixed and then actually goes there such that the whole world can see him shaking hands with a player from their opponent. It didn't look very nice though and I am not surprised that some people had the suspicion that Son Heung-min deliberately gave away that chance. But mistakes happen and I doubt it had anything to do with match fixing.

Though there can be other. forms of match fixing. Just remember how Bayern scored a goal against Real Madrid and the referee has blown the whistle, which is against all rules and you never see the referees raise the flag immediately when it is so close. Sometimes it is obviously offside and they still let the game continue just to be safe and in this case the referee immediately said it was offside. It was a very suspicious situation in that game and there were discussions for good reasons whether something was going on.
Lets be honest here. Top league match-fixing? Some may find it unlikely. Its not like Guardiola is planning a coup, but he's a jerk. Perhaps he was in a tizzy. Maybe he wanted to be sportsmanlike despite losing. Perhaps the tale is more complex than we're told. Professional athletes, remember. Under pressure to perform, they may take drastic means. Son didnt miss that chance, but weirder things have happened. Anything is possible in this competitive business when millions are at stake.

I think it would be naive to think in either direction. The truth is probably more in the middle of it. It would be stupid to think that there is no match fixing at all, but it would be stupid to think that match fixing is going on all the time.

I actually think that match fixing is hard to pull off these days. Given that there is a VAR and all these camera angles, all eyes on the referees. I wonder how you would even do it. Maybe goalkeepers could make stupid mistakes and it wouldn't be so obvious, but during a game there is so much space and everyone knows every situation can be checked from a dozen angles that I wouldn't know how to do it.

And don't forget that fixing means to achieve a certain outcome, but that might not even be possible. Assuming that a defender scores an own goal on purpose, the team might still win 3-1. Match fixing scandals have been detected in the past and punishments were huge for players especially. What would have to be paid to a player who is already earning a fortune to convince him to a mistake on purpose? Nobody who is earning 7 or 8 million a year or even more than that would be willing to destroy a game on purpose with the risk of getting caught.
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Match fixing most definitely occurs but its a larger risk in the lower ranks.  It can happen even in the top games but its risky for those people who intend to throw in any way, just from the greater scrutiny applied to their actions but lesser games it can be overlooked more often.

Entire leagues can lose their way from this negative trend and its unfortunate that can occur.  Top games I would disbelieve its in occurrence and I do think its rare but we should still watch out for it, it seems everyone has a capacity for temptation so risk exists especially on 'specials' type bets.

Match fixing still occurs, although to what frequency is something up for debate unless we know how to spot them. There are lots of ways leagues and third-party analysts can employ to detect these types of things. It's no easy feat to get past these screens nowadays, but I do believe that every now and then, match fixing happens to fill the pockets of a select few.

Also, I'm pretty sure that match fixing happens with the collusion of the sports organization and the teams themselves, so it goes through smoothly without anyone noticing a thing - not even their own systems to detect such behaviors.
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this

I completely agree with everything you said and I would also say yes there are fixed matches considering the fact that football is more like a game and anything is possible when it comes to fixing matches, and we shouldn't be a in hurry to know that there are board of trustees who might had such capacity of determining the possible outcome of a football match but though this act can be very unrealistic and uncertain such that no one should completely rely on hoping games are being fixed and bet with the amount that they can not afford to lose. That is the very reason why it is considered to be gambling as it has no guarantee and certainty over your predictions and anything is possible, you can't imagine after a match is being fixed by board of trustees a common man will busy making his own predictions too, but at most times fixed matches are noticeable from the beginning to the end of the game.

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I believe that match-fixing may happen and it is known to everyone a lot of person (players) get punished for their activities on match-fixing. Anyone on the team might be engaged in match-fixing whether it is player or management of the team, coach, or so on.

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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
Of course match are fixed more especially in the England premier league they are always in found of fixing a match and once they fixed any team they going to play a draw despite the team that they are playing with, but one thing I noticed about them is that they are engaged into coupon that is why you see that sometimes when a Big club is playing with a small club and the game is fixed, you we see that instead of the big club score you see that is small club that is going to score first and later the big team we level the game to enable them maintain their setting.

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I bet on fixed matches all the time, it's very easy to track suspicious bets you don't need a "source".  Grin

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I believe that match-fixing may happen and it is known to everyone a lot of person (players) get punished for their activities on match-fixing. Anyone on the team might be engaged in match-fixing whether it is player or management of the team, coach, or so on.
Not that it may happen it actually does happen alot and I believe there have been countless times in which all these little cases of match fixing have come to light and even being punished by the bodies responsible to take actions for such ill habits. Sometimes these match fixing normally occur in the lower leagues of some countries so as to avoid attention and audience to what they do, although I have always been confused in the benefits involved maybe they used it for high staking power since they are actually the one's controlling the wins and losses.

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June 01, 2024, 11:33:35 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this

I think it is enough that this type of fixing is mainly due to the bet of more money, I don't know if football games are always fixed. But sometimes I hear from the audience that it is fixing, but how is it really possible because every party is in power. However, the team with more ability and experience wins and many times it is possible to win by performing well. However, due to the added pressure, the audience can guess the changes in the matches. But I think it is entirely the board's responsibility whether there is football game fixing.

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June 01, 2024, 11:34:18 PM
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I do believe on it but there's a catch. It doesn't happen mostly on the bigger leagues and you'd see them often goes on with the smaller leagues or with the unpopular ones. They're prone to match fixing and that's why if you ever want to avoid them, you need to choose the sports and leagues that you want to bet because you'll never know, that small league that you're going to play YOLO and bet on them is already a rigged match. But here are just our opinions and we don't have proof but gut feels of most of us says that it does happen.
I don't really know if this does happen, but i doubt the facts that matches are being fixed especially football matches which the scorer is very uncertain because even if they bribe the coaches crew and the management board what about the entire players because there is zeal to score goals especially when you are in a good position to do so as a player, however, i am sincerely in doubt that matches are been fixed.
This may happen in local leagues where the team know each other and can communicate with the officiating crew and not in professional footballs.

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June 01, 2024, 11:56:02 PM
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You dont have to believe its been proven and tried in criminal courts, match fixing is most definetly a thing in most sports.  The main definition is how widespread is the problem, but sooner or later someone will be trying to fix or arrange a match for profit.  Sometimes its due to ill health or some problem, money is needed and the persons career is perhaps coming to an end.

Whatever the reason its without a doubt that some possiblity for match fixing will continue to be a concern to people running sports games and trying to ensue a correct competetive game always.

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June 16, 2024, 06:53:48 PM
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You dont have to believe its been proven and tried in criminal courts, match fixing is most definetly a thing in most sports.  The main definition is how widespread is the problem, but sooner or later someone will be trying to fix or arrange a match for profit.  Sometimes its due to ill health or some problem, money is needed and the persons career is perhaps coming to an end.

Whatever the reason its without a doubt that some possiblity for match fixing will continue to be a concern to people running sports games and trying to ensue a correct competetive game always.
You are right that it is proved that there is already evidence of match-fixing. So, no it is now not a fact whether we believe or not about the match-fixing. The reality is that match-fixing exists in the theme of sports whether that is soccor o cricket or something else.

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