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May 23, 2024, 08:43:17 PM |
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
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Ultegra134
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May 23, 2024, 08:51:23 PM |
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I recently made a thread about match fixing in third-world countries such as Guatemala or India for lower-tier teams that no one has ever heard of. A friend of mine was introduced to a Facebook group that shared fixed matches and had a great overall winning rate. To be honest, I was intrigued, and I'm planning to meet up with my friend in the upcoming days. Match fixing is definitely a thing and doesn't only occur in lower-tier leagues in third-world countries but also in major super leagues. I'm not sure how often they'd be in the Super League, but it's certainly happening and may involve players, coaches, or team managers, and who knows who else?
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May 23, 2024, 09:02:35 PM |
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
Most notably the fixed matches existed and exist in lower leagues,yet let me remind you of that 2-2 draw in an Euro Cup between Sweden and Denmark as that was the only result that would qualify both those teams and let Italy out of the group stage.Guess what?Yes the match ended with that exact result and all the world witnessed that theater but could not do anything about it,the goals were more than regular and even if VAR were invented back then as this happened years ago it would not have solved anything as there was nothing for VAR to review.The odd for a draw 2-2 which normally is 11-15 or more at that game was only 1.70 so the bookies knew about it yet they got ahead and put the game in despite knowing they will lose a lot of money and indeed bookies lost millions back then because everyone was betting that correct result and everyone won it.
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May 23, 2024, 09:15:06 PM |
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Illegal under all circumstances, match fixing can devastate football's credibility once proven. While there are some cases where players or officials are believed to be involved in such actions (which usually means that they have broken rules and will face serious consequences), this is not common and typically involves both parties knowingly breaking these rules during the game. The incident with Tottenham and Manchester City might simply be coincidental; errors or poor decisions made during matches form part of the sport.
In general, most football organizations aim to preserve the integrity of the game. As for a match-fixing conspiracy theory, I think this must be based on real grounds and strong evidence, because otherwise this will only further damage people's trust in football. Therefore let's take an assessment based on facts and real evidence.
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May 23, 2024, 09:25:46 PM |
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Illegal under all circumstances, match fixing can devastate football's credibility once proven. While there are some cases where players or officials are believed to be involved in such actions (which usually means that they have broken rules and will face serious consequences), this is not common and typically involves both parties knowingly breaking these rules during the game. The incident with Tottenham and Manchester City might simply be coincidental; errors or poor decisions made during matches form part of the sport.
In general, most football organizations aim to preserve the integrity of the game. As for a match-fixing conspiracy theory, I think this must be based on real grounds and strong evidence, because otherwise this will only further damage people's trust in football. Therefore let's take an assessment based on facts and real evidence.
Not really just that on football but generally on any sports on which it would be that be seen on having those match fixing. Even on e-sports on which there's no exemption to that. It might really that look impossible but match fixing does really exist but usually this could really be that be in smaller leagues and with those small teams or not really that much having that audience. This is unlikely that will happen on bigger ones on which we do know that fans all over the world would really be having that kind of active sights if ever there would really be bad calls or decisions in regarding the game or even seeing that there are some odd movements into the players or whatever that it is really that correlated to it.
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ajiz138
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May 23, 2024, 09:27:55 PM |
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So you think in the match between Manchester City and Totteham it was match-fixing, how can you think like this that there were even many incidents where players kicked the ball and were denied by the goalkeeper. so for me this is biased towards that.
About match-fixing it may still exist but in the minor leagues and this is often we encounter news some time ago, but for the big leagues, especially Europe, it is no longer possible to have match-fixing.
So for league matches in Europe I don't believe in match-fixing.
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May 23, 2024, 09:31:51 PM |
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It's all suspicions in the end since there's no solid evidence for some of the matches where assumed match fixing was done, but obviously for those revealed then naturally there's pretty obvious evidence. Now I wouldn't say I personally know any match-fixing in football but it always exists no matter what in any sport where a human plays it. It's probably a lot more prevalent in smaller-scale tournaments since the radar for those is much smaller so the likelihood of them getting caught is much lower than in big ones. And naturally, they have benefits for match-fixing. It's mostly money related. Otherwise, why would they risk their reputation? Not that most of those who usually do match fixing have any though, they're usually pretty small time athletes in the first place. It'd have to be a pretty big buck to try to match fix a match with big players.
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May 23, 2024, 09:33:38 PM |
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing.
I don’t really believe in match fixing, actually, it might be happening, but I believe it’s going to be all those local leagues. Maybe things like that might be happening, but even if there will be match fixing, it’s going to be done hidden, and people won’t know about it. I'm sure only the body will know about it, and if they are caught, then they are going to be punished for that, so anything happening is going to be hidden. All those people making advertisements on social media about selling out fixed matches are just fake. Don’t believe all those people, fixed matches won’t be made public.
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They have to do this professionally or else the league will be ruined and yes I do believe on match fixing. This is very popular in boxing where most of their reputation is not that matters as long as they make profit even if they lose the match. Though in some sports this is also happening, there’s an incident before in my country where the basketball game said to be a fixed game, and the organization apologize for this one, since then the league received a lot of criticism.
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May 23, 2024, 09:41:36 PM Last edit: May 23, 2024, 10:02:06 PM by Crypto Library |
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
Yes I believe that match-fixing is existing in the sports world whether it is football or crickets or any other sport. And it is not new that the Tottenham and the Manchester city incident there are lots of incidents where players are hired for doing match-fixing and these are also backed by those big mafia gamblers. And I am also sure that it is still exist. Here are some records of players who did match fixing and get banned from the sports. - List of cricketers banned for corruption- List of match-fixing incidents footballBut always be careful from the scammers groups who says that they have signal with the fixed matches.
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May 23, 2024, 09:58:27 PM |
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Yes, I concur with you. I believe in match fixing. Like we all know, this is gambling. Without any profit, I don't think there should be any reasons for match fixing, so to say it another way, yes there are benefits to match fixing.
Though some times it doesn't go the way they planned it, football is a game of uncertainty.
Besides, this game is played by humans, and humans are not perfect, so mistakes are bound to happen.
Yes, assumptions are allowed to be made, but we need to be very careful of what we say concerning some games. Ok, let's assume Son Heung-min was involved in anything that you think happened behind scenes that day. Did he also tell the goalkeeper where he would play the ball or where to dive? What about the match between France and Argentina in 2022 world cup finals ? Are you saying Kolo-Muani missed the late one on one chance he had with the Argentine goalkeeper because it was fixed? You should know this happens always in the game of football; that's why we have saves in the game.
Pet meeting son to shake him was normal; at that point, I think Pep was overexcited because he nearly lost the game, and that miss from Son relives him so much, so for me, shaking Son was nothing but a congratulation.
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
I see this as just stories fabricated by a few gamblers who has lost over time and are looking for a reason to throw their blame at the team since they can't do that at the casinos knowing well that the casino has got almost no hand in the way games are played on the pitch.. all those events that happens on the pitch are mare coincidence and it could happen to anyone especially when there's a pressure to get a goal but because these gamblers are just looking for a reason to throw blames at teams, they will say it's fixed and all that. The business of football especially in places like england is just too big for all that, I mean how would you be able to set up a fixed game at what cost, who exactly is going to cover up for all that game will cost others, it's not just logical enough a because even the teams hope to make money from these games so if you keep fixing them I doubt if fans knowing such will still want to keep up.
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May 23, 2024, 10:00:31 PM |
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Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
This is just a speculation that would have been started by Arsenal supporters, or others who in support of Arsenal to win the premier league and were depending on Tottenham to help them out. Son was under pressure in that game, missing was very possible, plus the Manchester City goalkeeper who came into the game did very well. There is match fixing, But I do not think that it will be in the big leagues like the premier league. I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing.
VAR tech was introduced to make officiating better, and although it has not always helped with some decisions, it is still an improving technology that needs some time to become better. VAR was not introduced to help match-fixing, it does not even make sense.
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May 23, 2024, 10:01:08 PM |
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I rarely hear people say some matches are fixed. The truth is there is nothing like a fixed match unless the team decides to lose for a specific reason. Every team wants to win a trophy this is why they fight so bad to win all their matches. Unless in some cases where they knew they are on low points away from the first position and they have also seen that the possibility of winning is low then they can jeopardize their winning for their personal benefits. And it is not new that the Tottenham and the Manchester city incident there are lots of incidents where players are hired for doing match-fixing and these are also backed by those big mafia gamblers. And I am also sure that it is still exist. Here are some records of players who did match fixing and get banned from the sports.
I don't think the Tottenham and Manchester City incident was a fixed match. Although Tottenham lost so many chances and it start to look so intentional that they wanted Manchester City to win them. Bit i won't agree here. Tottenham played well and could not get a chance to win that is what happened.
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May 23, 2024, 10:11:29 PM |
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There's nothing to believe or not believe in really when it comes to "match fixing". It's been a proven thing that certain matches of different sports have been "fixed". Just take a look at some of the most historical match fixes throughout history, it would be insane to think otherwise.
Personally the best example in my opinion right now of this would be the Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul matchup. Lot of speculation it's a fixed match, and I agree.
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May 23, 2024, 10:15:05 PM |
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I do believe on it but there's a catch. It doesn't happen mostly on the bigger leagues and you'd see them often goes on with the smaller leagues or with the unpopular ones. They're prone to match fixing and that's why if you ever want to avoid them, you need to choose the sports and leagues that you want to bet because you'll never know, that small league that you're going to play YOLO and bet on them is already a rigged match. But here are just our opinions and we don't have proof but gut feels of most of us says that it does happen.
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May 23, 2024, 10:20:31 PM |
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
Match fixing has been something very common in soccer body but I think this practice is mostly common ins very small leagues and the last time I checked, players aren’t allowed to bet on their matches and I don’t think a team or a player would want anyone jeopardizing with their career with some shady deals because I’m sure that, match fixing and players buying is a big crime with a very huge consequences in soccer games. Nothing is impossible especially with money and there have been several remorse and obvious cases of matches games been rigged and this is mostly done to favour some certain set of gamblers.
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May 23, 2024, 10:21:43 PM |
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I actually don't know what happened on that match Manchester City against Tottenham team. And I will also say that even if that match wasn't a fixed match there are also lots of records for match. And in Some incidents players get paid for that and there was some news also that players are blackmailed by the mafia for doing match fixing.
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May 23, 2024, 10:24:19 PM |
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I do believe on it but there's a catch. It doesn't happen mostly on the bigger leagues and you'd see them often goes on with the smaller leagues or with the unpopular ones. They're prone to match fixing and that's why if you ever want to avoid them, you need to choose the sports and leagues that you want to bet because you'll never know, that small league that you're going to play YOLO and bet on them is already a rigged match. But here are just our opinions and we don't have proof but gut feels of most of us says that it does happen.
In most cases, we will only hear rumours. Even if some of them are true, no one can give a solid evidence that the match is being fixed. Also, if you are very familiar with the performance of the athletes inside the field, you will have your gut feel if they are really under the spell of match fixing. In bigger leagues, it is hard to arrange this as a lot of people are focused on them, and people will see if there will be change of movement of that athlete. They will see it clear if people are closely following them.
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May 23, 2024, 10:29:49 PM |
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
I believe that match fixing exists in the game, I mean at this point you gotta be a wide-eyed optimists who sees the world in an ideal way thinking that people would work on their own out of the innate kindness in their heart lol. But I don't believe that Match fixing is as big as many people make it out to be. The thing is, and this goes for all kinds of games out there, There will be some fights and some games where match fixing will be at play and we would know from the get-go whether the match is fixed simply because there are die-hard fans out there who would always know whether something is off with a certain team's way of playing. And when that happens, investigations will be pulled, match fixing will be either ruled out or confirmed, and the teams involved will suffer consequences, discouraging other teams from ever participating in that kind of behavior. This alone is enough to deter most of the teams in a certain sport, and the idea is that this is enough, anyone who pulls a fast one on the keen eye of the public and the ruling body for that sport could easily be spotted and provided with sanctions, which actuates the cycle once again.
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