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July 18, 2025, 05:22:56 PM
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In terms of Bitcoin ownership, Satoshi is superior, while in terms of wealth, Elon Musk surpasses Satoshi. So in my opinion, there is no reason for Elon Musk to replace the position of the 12th richest person in the world in terms of Bitcoin ownership, after all, who can identify Satoshi is an Individual (not a group).
Perhaps one day there will be an institutional investor or a country that can buy Bitcoin beyond the amount that Satoshi owned as its adoption becomes more widespread. Awareness of the profits that Bitcoin can generate is increasingly encouraging several large companies to collect as much Bitcoin as possible because its price will continue to increase over time.
It is possible that some wealthy countries will make bitcoin a reserve asset - the talk is already there, but we are just waiting for the right time. Imagine if this discourse became a reality - how much money would those countries spend on buying bitcoin and accumulating them over time?

Satoshi's bitcoin holdings are certainly numerous - but since the wallet is no longer active, the number will not increase significantly even though some people may try to donate some sats to it. Institutions, groups, individuals or countries may still be the largest holders in the future - their positions will rotate and bitcoin will become increasingly scarce.

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July 18, 2025, 05:40:22 PM
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Currently, person with highest amount of bitcoin in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto and he is the 12th richest man in the world. Can his number one spot be taken by some other person anytime soon ? Who can be that person to replace Satoshi ? Elon Musk ?
why would elon musk replace the 12th richest man when he is already the richest man? and satoshi may not buy any more bitcoins but since bitcoin's value keeps increasing satoshi will get richer and richer so this highlights the importance of holding

He wasn't talking about replacing Musk replacing Satoshi in terms of Net Worth but in terms of Bitcoin held. The 1m Bitcoin Satoshi holds is worth about $120 billion right now. Elon musk Net Worth is $410 billion right now so 1m BTC is less than 1/3 of his net worth. But if Musk tried to buy 1m BTC it would make the price skyrocket and then he probably couldn't buy 1m BTC even if he spent his entire $410 billion net worth on it.

But of course people buying massive amounts of btc don't buy straight from market they buy it otc and from other parties that are already big holders. So the question is could someone find enough large private holders on BTC that are willing to sell? And would the total amount of btc from those private holders willing to sell total over 1m btc? It's unlikely but not completely impossible. We've seen cases where governments have sold over 100k in single auctions and other instances where private holders have sold large amounts. If someone were to focus on all these large individual sales over a period of years I think it's actually possible they could pull it off.
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July 18, 2025, 06:58:00 PM
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Michael Saylor is not as rich as Elon Musk. Maybe OP assumes that the world's richest man can invest a large chunk of his wealth in Bitcoin, owning more than Satoshi. Nothing is impossible, but I don't think Elon has such intentions. With the price of Bitcoin appreciating, achieving such a dream will keep becoming difficult. And how are we sure that Satoshi doesn't own more Bitcoin in other wallets? It is better not to argue on assumptions that their outcomes cannot be valid or reliable.
From the onset if Elon was to invest in bitcoin openly, if he hadn't done that in secret (I said this because some of the times rich people play trick on us not to realise some investment they have done in secret so the source of some income wouldn't be known by the public or people would not go into the business idea or investment in mass), he would have get involved with bitcoin but he only tried to do that in a smart way just to get the attention his business needed. However, even as being the richest man he could do anything he wants in he wishes and I also agree with you that we can keep arguing on assumptions.

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July 18, 2025, 07:12:02 PM
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From the onset if Elon was to invest in bitcoin openly, if he hadn't done that in secret (I said this because some of the times rich people play trick on us not to realise some investment they have done in secret so the source of some income wouldn't be known by the public or people would not go into the business idea or investment in mass), he would have get involved with bitcoin but he only tried to do that in a smart way just to get the attention his business needed. However, even as being the richest man he could do anything he wants in he wishes and I also agree with you that we can keep arguing on assumptions.

Big guys can afford to do so, unfortunately, and it brings much uncertainty onto the table.

Alas - they are a wild card, and should be treated as such.

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July 18, 2025, 07:50:53 PM
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Musk wouldn't invest that much in crypto; he'd have to spend his entire fortune on it. He's too smart to do such a thing; he enjoys making money through investing and speculation. Perhaps one day he'll show his speculative side again and continue to focus on cryptocurrencies. I doubt anyone will have as many bitcoins as Satoshi. Perhaps, many years from now, if major investment companies focus entirely on bitcoin, we'll see that Smiley

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July 20, 2025, 07:16:51 AM
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Elon Musk isn't really interested in Bitcoin if I should say so, so buying the number of Bitcoin to rival that of Satoshi will just mean he wants to do that for publicity stunt and nothing else. Satoshi will keep increasing in wealth because Bitcoin will keep surging. Now that Satoshi is in the wind, we can't speculate if they would add to their holdings but for the time being, I think the title of biggest Bitcoin holder would still go to Satoshi Nakamoto.

How do you know that he is not interested in bitcoin ? Do you have exact idea of what exact coins he is holding  ?

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July 20, 2025, 10:50:31 PM
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Currently, person with highest amount of bitcoin in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto and he is the 12th richest man in the world. Can his number one spot be taken by some other person anytime soon ? Who can be that person to replace Satoshi ? Elon Musk ?


Do not mention Elon Musk because Elon has already dropped in ranking while Satoshi climbed to the 11th position, taking over Michael Dell, the CEO of Dell Technologies. However, Satoshi would keep climbing high as long as BTC keeps appreciating in value over time, and believe me, the space at which Satoshi would become the world's richest man would happen just within the twinkling of an eye without any competition or a contender, all courtesy of Bitcoin.
I don't think anyone will have more Bitcoin than Satoshi Nakamoto since he is the owner, Elon Musk is only an investor in Bitcoin, do you think that someone that has created wealth like Bitcoin for the universe will easily be surpass by one of his holder, being rich and creating wealth are two different things entirely because I see the wealth creator as the richest and can't be surpass because that ideology is always there to create more wealth for himself .

Remember the rise of the price of Bitcoin also determine the increase of Satoshi's wealth, Elon Musk might be close to Satoshi but can't surpass him and nobody can replace him.

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July 20, 2025, 11:11:06 PM
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the satoshi wallet is a burn address like the exchanges use. I wouldn't consider it active since no one has used it for withdraw
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July 21, 2025, 02:25:44 PM
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Currently, person with highest amount of bitcoin in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto and he is the 12th richest man in the world. Can his number one spot be taken by some other person anytime soon ? Who can be that person to replace Satoshi ? Elon Musk ?
Do not mention Elon Musk because Elon has already dropped in ranking while Satoshi climbed to the 11th position, taking over Michael Dell, the CEO of Dell Technologies. However, Satoshi would keep climbing high as long as BTC keeps appreciating in value over time, and believe me, the space at which Satoshi would become the world's richest man would happen just within the twinkling of an eye without any competition or a contender, all courtesy of Bitcoin.
I don't think anyone will have more Bitcoin than Satoshi Nakamoto since he is the owner, Elon Musk is only an investor in Bitcoin, do you think that someone that has created wealth like Bitcoin for the universe will easily be surpass by one of his holder, being rich and creating wealth are two different things entirely because I see the wealth creator as the richest and can't be surpass because that ideology is always there to create more wealth for himself .
As far as I know, almost no individual has accumulated a significant amount of Bitcoin, and it seems impossible for anyone to hold more Bitcoin than Satoshi. Blackrock and MicroStrategy currently hold vast Bitcoin reserves, even approaching Satoshi's, but they are companies, not individuals. It's unlikely Elon Musk himself would try to hold as much Bitcoin as Satoshi. He would have to sell a significant portion of his holdings, which is nearly impossible. If he did, it would make headlines, and if his wallet became public, people would start looking for other wallets that have transacted with Elon Musk's wallet. The most plausible possibility is that Musk may have become one of the current whales.

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July 21, 2025, 04:29:23 PM
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Currently, person with highest amount of bitcoin in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto and he is the 12th richest man in the world. Can his number one spot be taken by some other person anytime soon ? Who can be that person to replace Satoshi ? Elon Musk ?
Do not mention Elon Musk because Elon has already dropped in ranking while Satoshi climbed to the 11th position, taking over Michael Dell, the CEO of Dell Technologies. However, Satoshi would keep climbing high as long as BTC keeps appreciating in value over time, and believe me, the space at which Satoshi would become the world's richest man would happen just within the twinkling of an eye without any competition or a contender, all courtesy of Bitcoin.
I don't think anyone will have more Bitcoin than Satoshi Nakamoto since he is the owner, Elon Musk is only an investor in Bitcoin, do you think that someone that has created wealth like Bitcoin for the universe will easily be surpass by one of his holder, being rich and creating wealth are two different things entirely because I see the wealth creator as the richest and can't be surpass because that ideology is always there to create more wealth for himself .
As far as I know, almost no individual has accumulated a significant amount of Bitcoin, and it seems impossible for anyone to hold more Bitcoin than Satoshi. Blackrock and MicroStrategy currently hold vast Bitcoin reserves, even approaching Satoshi's, but they are companies, not individuals. It's unlikely Elon Musk himself would try to hold as much Bitcoin as Satoshi. He would have to sell a significant portion of his holdings, which is nearly impossible. If he did, it would make headlines, and if his wallet became public, people would start looking for other wallets that have transacted with Elon Musk's wallet. The most plausible possibility is that Musk may have become one of the current whales.

There has been no record of a single individual who owns bitcoin in large volume except for Satoshi, the founder of Bitcoin, and only organisations that own large volumes, but according to the river.com website, the Winklevoss twins own ~70,000 BTC, which they had bought very early when the price was still low. As for Elon Musk, no one can tell if he owns bitcoin in large volume, as he has never come up publicly to talk about any large volume bitcoin ownership. But I believe there are people still secretly stashing bitcoins in different wallets as they do not want to call attention to themselves, but with time, things will reveal themselves.

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Currently, person with highest amount of bitcoin in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto and he is the 12th richest man in the world. Can his number one spot be taken by some other person anytime soon ? Who can be that person to replace Satoshi ? Elon Musk ?
Do not mention Elon Musk because Elon has already dropped in ranking while Satoshi climbed to the 11th position, taking over Michael Dell, the CEO of Dell Technologies. However, Satoshi would keep climbing high as long as BTC keeps appreciating in value over time, and believe me, the space at which Satoshi would become the world's richest man would happen just within the twinkling of an eye without any competition or a contender, all courtesy of Bitcoin.
I don't think anyone will have more Bitcoin than Satoshi Nakamoto since he is the owner, Elon Musk is only an investor in Bitcoin, do you think that someone that has created wealth like Bitcoin for the universe will easily be surpass by one of his holder, being rich and creating wealth are two different things entirely because I see the wealth creator as the richest and can't be surpass because that ideology is always there to create more wealth for himself .
As far as I know, almost no individual has accumulated a significant amount of Bitcoin, and it seems impossible for anyone to hold more Bitcoin than Satoshi. Blackrock and MicroStrategy currently hold vast Bitcoin reserves, even approaching Satoshi's, but they are companies, not individuals. It's unlikely Elon Musk himself would try to hold as much Bitcoin as Satoshi. He would have to sell a significant portion of his holdings, which is nearly impossible. If he did, it would make headlines, and if his wallet became public, people would start looking for other wallets that have transacted with Elon Musk's wallet. The most plausible possibility is that Musk may have become one of the current whales.

He is the creator of Bitcoin although his identity is unknown but his capacity and capabilities is well recognized by the crypto community. Sometimes I just wonder what would have happened if the creator of Bitcoin was well known, and whatever happened to the dormant wallet that his coins is stored, is there no possible way for the Bitcoin inside to be tempered with ? A whole of curiosity gets to me whenever I hear that name and if Bitcoin continues to go higher then more and more people will join in the curious thought of Satoshi Bitcoin.

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July 21, 2025, 04:57:46 PM
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If we take more years passed, I think that it's possible that it won't be satoshi that holds a million of Bitcoins. It will only be a matter of time when that happens because many of these rich folks are already eyeing to have bitcoin. It's not only the institutions that have shown interests on it but also some rich people will also start to accumulate then. We know that there are riches out there that have a lot of money to be spent if they want to.

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July 21, 2025, 05:21:33 PM
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He is the creator of Bitcoin although his identity is unknown but his capacity and capabilities is well recognized by the crypto community. Sometimes I just wonder what would have happened if the creator of Bitcoin was well known, and whatever happened to the dormant wallet that his coins is stored, is there no possible way for the Bitcoin inside to be tempered with ? A whole of curiosity gets to me whenever I hear that name and if Bitcoin continues to go higher then more and more people will join in the curious thought of Satoshi Bitcoin.

I do not think anyone can easily tamper with Satoshi's Bitcoin. You could imagine how sophisticated what he invented is, and imagine how sophisticated his keys would be. Anyone even thinking of such should not waste their time because they would never succeed in carrying out such a plan. As for his identity, thanks to him for not unveiling himself, because Bitcoin would have long been in extinct by now. Maybe the curiosity would continue to increase more and more, but they would never get to know who Satoshi is, as I believe that would be the last thing he would ever do to let people or the world know about his identity. The day he does that, that would be the beginning of his problem and possibly a shake in the bitcoin ecosystem.


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Elon Musk isn't really interested in Bitcoin if I should say so, so buying the number of Bitcoin to rival that of Satoshi will just mean he wants to do that for publicity stunt and nothing else. Satoshi will keep increasing in wealth because Bitcoin will keep surging. Now that Satoshi is in the wind, we can't speculate if they would add to their holdings but for the time being, I think the title of biggest Bitcoin holder would still go to Satoshi Nakamoto.

How do you know that he is not interested in bitcoin ? Do you have exact idea of what exact coins he is holding  ?

Think back to the last three years. Musk is currently one of the most disliked figures among cryptocurrency investors. Even Trump is more popular; he can at least provide support to investors and have a positive impact on prices. Musk, on the other hand, is not. People no longer want him to talk about cryptocurrencies and are uncomfortable with it.

When bull season comes, he starts talking, makes money from it, and then sells everything. And then, lo and behold, he stops talking at all Smiley

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July 21, 2025, 06:23:53 PM
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Think back to the last three years. Musk is currently one of the most disliked figures among cryptocurrency investors. Even Trump is more popular; he can at least provide support to investors and have a positive impact on prices. Musk, on the other hand, is not. People no longer want him to talk about cryptocurrencies and are uncomfortable with it.

When bull season comes, he starts talking, makes money from it, and then sells everything. And then, lo and behold, he stops talking at all Smiley

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the satoshi wallet is a burn address like the exchanges use. I wouldn't consider it active since no one has used it for withdraw

Does not mean that it cannot happen in future also.

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