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November 21, 2025, 04:18:18 AM
Last edit: November 21, 2025, 05:21:02 AM by Marvell1
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There is still a chance that bitcoin will reverse direction and rise back above $100k. But we cannot deny that with the current situation, between up and down, the downtrend is more likely to happen.

Also, it is necessary to be realistic bull season has lasted too long and cannot last forever, sooner or later it will have to end and the bear season will come. In the event that bitcoin bounces back above $100k, it will be just a dead cat bounce and another trap. That doesn't change the fact that bear season is coming and it's definitely coming. So it never hurts to be careful and have a backup plan.
If you take into account the short term, the probability is that we have a decline and enter a bear market, but it is only a probability not a definite thing, because bitcoin is currently wide open in many markets its adoption also continues, so the possibility may or may not happen in the future.
Bear markets are part of the financial game and bitcoin is just a financial market, so there will be no exceptions. No matter how strong Bitcoin adoption is, sooner or later a bear market will come, it's inevitable.


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Even if it goes into a bearish phase I am very sure it will not go down too deep like previous cycles and bitcoin will again get a chance for a gradual reversal because the same pattern will not continue to repeat itself when the market is so big like now, I think everyone will also understand, logically if it will happen like before then it is easy for us to steal money from the market, just short the position in the market we will definitely get a profit, of course it is not that simple for the bitcoin macro market now.

Besides the reason that many people have also said is because of the government involvement, Wall Street, and they will definitely buy bitcoin if the price drops. So, bitcoin is definitely will not go down too deep like previous cycles. Do you have any more compelling reasons to guarantee that Bitcoin won't drop much if a bear market occurs?

Just ask people who have been through 2 or 3 bear markets before, is short selling as easy as you think?
Shorting in a bear market is neither new nor a secret, and many people have tried it. But you know what, not many people make a profit from it.

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November 21, 2025, 01:12:26 PM
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As already stated, I am sceptical about the claims you have made in this thread. I do not believe your story, I do not believe the screenshots are real (or if they are real they have been taken from elsewhere and you are taking ownership of them).

Having said all that, if your story was true you would be facing huge losses today just a week after your investment

Friends, I increased my deposit to 200,000. I don’t know if this is the right thing to do. Is it expected to rise today? It’s now starting to make a profit!

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November 21, 2025, 01:32:24 PM
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You have paid attention to investing in Bitcoin and you will never consider it as your wrong move but will always think that you have made the right decision by investing in Bitcoin. Now the question is how much do you actually know about investing in Bitcoin. If you have a minimum idea, then you should invest consistently and expand your idea about investing. You will try to maintain the continuity of this investment once you have invested. For example, you must have a source of income and with a remaining part of that income, you can continue investing continuously, which will enrich your portfolio.

As you could read, OP went on with big leverage and didn't like the results out of it.. And I hope he will learn from it Wink
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November 21, 2025, 03:53:40 PM
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Trading is too high risk and shouldn't be compare as an investment, the hardest part of trading is the mental side, you need to be mentally strong enough to beat the market, the guy who killed himself in October was a professional trader too, you can't be pro enough to avoid losses.
That’s quite unfortunate.
And that is why anyone without the mental preparedness can never last as a trader, because you’ll hit a lot of disappointments and losses due to how risky it is, regardless of how knowledgeable and experienced the trader is. And this is the reason it’s not suitable for newbies, especially those who are not well educated about how trading works and what’s involved. I have a lot of friends who has entered the trading business but retreated after a few losses, this is because there’s this perspective some people have about trading, they feel it’s something that takes just a few weeks or months to grasp and this mindset makes them set so high expectations when they start, and this mindset is often the origin of their doom.

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November 21, 2025, 05:27:42 PM
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Situations like this have occurred repeatedly due to the highly volatile and unpredictable nature of the crypto market, but what's happening now is part of the build-up to a higher surge. However, investors should remain optimistic and take advantage of the opportunity to acquire Bitcoin at a lower price, as the Bear season is approaching soon.
Those who will take advantage of this opportunity have already taken advantage of this opportunity because those who were eager to buy bitcoin at a low price got the perfect price and many have bought bitcoin. However, small investors could not hold on to bitcoin, they have already given up bitcoin after seeing this unstable market situation. On the other hand, large companies who were waiting to buy bitcoin at a low price may have already bought it. I also have investments in bitcoin and I maintain DCA and invest little by little, so I am not looking at the unstable market for now. However, I also think that this is a golden opportunity for those who want to buy Bitcoin at a low price.

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November 21, 2025, 07:08:59 PM
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Situations like this have occurred repeatedly due to the highly volatile and unpredictable nature of the crypto market, but what's happening now is part of the build-up to a higher surge. However, investors should remain optimistic and take advantage of the opportunity to acquire Bitcoin at a lower price, as the Bear season is approaching soon.
Those who will take advantage of this opportunity have already taken advantage of this opportunity because those who were eager to buy bitcoin at a low price got the perfect price and many have bought bitcoin. However, small investors could not hold on to bitcoin, they have already given up bitcoin after seeing this unstable market situation. On the other hand, large companies who were waiting to buy bitcoin at a low price may have already bought it. I also have investments in bitcoin and I maintain DCA and invest little by little, so I am not looking at the unstable market for now. However, I also think that this is a golden opportunity for those who want to buy Bitcoin at a low price.

Well when Bitcoin was trading over 110K, everyone was hoping that Bitcoin can dip a bit and they can have a chance to buy cheap Bitcoins. Now when Bitcoin is near 85K, there is so much fear in the market that people feel so much fear to buy even at these low prices. That's how whales manipulate with our emotions that we forget to buy low, so strange.

Anyways going all in Bitcoin, with no money to spare is also not a good idea.

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November 21, 2025, 08:47:48 PM
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Those who will take advantage of this opportunity have already taken advantage of this opportunity because those who were eager to buy bitcoin at a low price got the perfect price and many have bought bitcoin. However, small investors could not hold on to bitcoin, they have already given up bitcoin after seeing this unstable market situation. On the other hand, large companies who were waiting to buy bitcoin at a low price may have already bought it. I also have investments in bitcoin and I maintain DCA and invest little by little, so I am not looking at the unstable market for now. However, I also think that this is a golden opportunity for those who want to buy Bitcoin at a low price.
Well said, the people who truly understand Bitcoin rarely wait for the perfect moment because they know the market never gives clear signals. Small investors often panic during volatility, while big players quietly accumulate. And honestly, regardless of the noise in the market, periods like this usually end up being the moments people later call golden opportunities.

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November 21, 2025, 09:02:49 PM
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A little straightening out the title you made because it is trading not investing so I think the title is wrong here Cheesy

My advice in this case is that you should be able to differentiate about trading and investing because even though the object may be the same, namely bitcoin but still trading and investment are 2 different things and we cannot equate it even if we force it because the flow will remain different and what you are doing is not investing but trading.

In addition, when looking at the way you are all in with a long in bitcoin and the price conditions of the past week now like this, hopefully you are still okay with it considering the liquidation rate is very high.

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Well when Bitcoin was trading over 110K, everyone was hoping that Bitcoin can dip a bit and they can have a chance to buy cheap Bitcoins. Now when Bitcoin is near 85K, there is so much fear in the market that people feel so much fear to buy even at these low prices. That's how whales manipulate with our emotions that we forget to buy low, so strange.
When you see people saying they are waiting for bitcoin to dump before investing in bitcoin, I just look them and shake my head because I know most of those people are not serious, they not really ready to invest in bitcoin. Most people that were expecting bitcoin to dump before investing, now that bitcoin price is down, they are still scared to invest, I think people like this are not just ready to invest in bitcoin.

I don’t know what people are scared of, if you are holding bitcoin, you should know bitcoin price is going to bounce back if you don’t sell, just make sure you are holding for long term, and if you are planning to invest, this is the right time to start investing, but your investment target should be long term target.

The only people that are suppose to be scared right now are traders, most especially if you are into future trading because any slight mistake you going to be liquidated, everything is going to be gone.

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No one who has invested in Bitcoin has ever lost money up to now. ~snip

I'm still yet to see anyone who has come forward to make such claims.
It's quite amusing to see certain individuals who claim to discredit Bitcoin as a good investment option, but are still yet to prove that money invested in Bitcoin can be lost as a result of price decline. Anyone who finds him/herself on a declining side for long should ask questions, because of course, they might be doing the wrong thing while assuming it to be right.

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That’s right. When considering the long term sense, we can’t really consider Futures to be investments. They’re more like short term trades that requires understand and precision. Even those who are considered to be pros could often get nervous at some point cos the market can actually slip at any point in time. Which is why it’s important to maintain patience and long term perspective, real Investing is about gradually building wealth and not trying to outsmart the market for some quick profits.

I know a trader from YouTube that has a future open position of Bitcoin with 2x leverage on his trade and has never closed it because he knows very well that Bitcoin will have to almost die before he is getting liquidated. The last time I was on YouTube I saw his video flexing his pnl but futures are safe when you do it for short term and the profit should be quick, like that his trade now he is going to be paying fees for keeping the long position that I don't know if it's profitable.

It's advisable to buy Bitcoin and hold it than all this strategies of Buying Bitcoin, now that Bitcoin is dumping, DCA strategy is the best thing to do because people that are laughing Bitcoin today don't even have anything, they are going to be the first people that will run and be shouting they wish they bought Bitcoin when the price was low. Now is that time to be buying Bitcoin and not the time to be following all these rascal people that doesn't respect Bitcoin.

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Those who will take advantage of this opportunity have already taken advantage of this opportunity because those who were eager to buy bitcoin at a low price got the perfect price and many have bought bitcoin. However, small investors could not hold on to bitcoin, they have already given up bitcoin after seeing this unstable market situation. On the other hand, large companies who were waiting to buy bitcoin at a low price may have already bought it. I also have investments in bitcoin and I maintain DCA and invest little by little, so I am not looking at the unstable market for now. However, I also think that this is a golden opportunity for those who want to buy Bitcoin at a low price.
Well said, the people who truly understand Bitcoin rarely wait for the perfect moment because they know the market never gives clear signals. Small investors often panic during volatility, while big players quietly accumulate. And honestly, regardless of the noise in the market, periods like this usually end up being the moments people later call golden opportunities.

It is true that big investors never panic and get frustrated, but they patiently keep depositing more when the market is facing instability. But a small investor always thinks, moreover, when the market goes down, he also faces a lot of disappointment. However, to be a real investor, you must change your length and your mindset, and deposit for the future. When the market goes down, many people are afraid to buy, thinking that the market may not rise again, but later when the market goes up again, they claim it as a golden opportunity, but they could have bought, but they still make various excuses. Those who fail to deposit later claim it as a golden opportunity are not real investors, but they make excuses at that time.

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I went all in on BTC, and I don't know if that was the right thing to do. I'm very nervous right now and terrified of getting liquidated.
I don't know how much knowledge you have gained about Bitcoin. As a Newbie it is important to gather good knowledge of Bitcoin at the beginning. If you start trading with Bitcoin at the beginning, I think it can be risky. There is nothing wrong with keeping all your investments in Bitcoin, but in this case you have to be a long-term holder. If you try to make short-term profits by trade and gained then better to take that profit.

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I know a trader from YouTube that has a future open position of Bitcoin with 2x leverage on his trade and has never closed it because he knows very well that Bitcoin will have to almost die before he is getting liquidated. The last time I was on YouTube I saw his video flexing his pnl but futures are safe when you do it for short term and the profit should be quick, like that his trade now he is going to be paying fees for keeping the long position that I don't know if it's profitable.

It's advisable to buy Bitcoin and hold it than all this strategies of Buying Bitcoin, now that Bitcoin is dumping, DCA strategy is the best thing to do because people that are laughing Bitcoin today don't even have anything, they are going to be the first people that will run and be shouting they wish they bought Bitcoin when the price was low. Now is that time to be buying Bitcoin and not the time to be following all these rascal people that doesn't respect Bitcoin.
lol, that’s a crazy one. A trader holding a 2X leveraged position for months is just crazy, it’s like turning what’s should basically be just a short term speculative tool to be a long term investment, but this time with a pretty higher risk, and it doesn’t really sit well with me or the idea of investment.  Even if the liquidation price in this case is kinda far away, the fact still remains that the position is still very much exposed to funding rates, the pressure that comes with maintaining margin and volatility spikes. So flexing PnL doesn’t really elude the reality of the fact that leverage is meant for quick exposure and not for long term conviction.

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November 23, 2025, 09:05:43 AM
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Well when Bitcoin was trading over 110K, everyone was hoping that Bitcoin can dip a bit and they can have a chance to buy cheap Bitcoins. Now when Bitcoin is near 85K, there is so much fear in the market that people feel so much fear to buy even at these low prices. That's how whales manipulate with our emotions that we forget to buy low, so strange.
When you see people saying they are waiting for bitcoin to dump before investing in bitcoin, I just look them and shake my head because I know most of those people are not serious, they not really ready to invest in bitcoin. Most people that were expecting bitcoin to dump before investing, now that bitcoin price is down, they are still scared to invest, I think people like this are not just ready to invest in bitcoin.

I don’t know what people are scared of, if you are holding bitcoin, you should know bitcoin price is going to bounce back if you don’t sell, just make sure you are holding for long term, and if you are planning to invest, this is the right time to start investing, but your investment target should be long term target.

The only people that are suppose to be scared right now are traders, most especially if you are into future trading because any slight mistake you going to be liquidated, everything is going to be gone.

Every day presents an opportunity to accumulate bitcoin to hold for the long run especially for a long term investor whose initial strategy is based on the consistent accumulation of bitcoin to invest for the long term aim. The only limit here should be that you’re yet to figure out a discretionary income to use for accumulating bitcoin if not, with the DCA method of accumulating bitcoin you only need to have just a discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin at any market price and with even a little amount available at your disposal you can use it to accumulate and gradually build up up your portfolio. That way is far more better to really grow in bitcoin investment instead of waiting for a price dip before investing because you might end up waiting for it for a long time and it may not even occur yet.

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November 23, 2025, 09:13:45 AM
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I wouldn't click on the links like that in the first post, but if you did go into BTC, why you did it with leverage if you are that scared?
The link is because I don't know how to upload images. Do you know how to upload images? I want to invest in Bitcoin, but I don't have much money. I want to accumulate funds this way. I don't know if this is a mistake! Or is there a better way? Cry
This might not be a really good time for a newbie to go all in on BTC due to volatility. If you want to, however, wait a bit and see which direction the market is headed first. You may be buying BTC much cheaper a month or two from here
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