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February 13, 2016, 07:29:58 PM
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Classic is shit, there's no need to hire anyone to realize that fact, just look at reality for that, it's pretty cheap. Core devs have developed everything of importance in the full node and Classic devs are famous for... trying to double the blocksize, that's all. That's why Toomin will never be a lead developer, Classic team hasn't proven anything of value.

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February 13, 2016, 07:41:37 PM
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It's spreading! http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2016/02/13/is-the-looming-bitcoin-hard-fork-illegal/#1478599c4b13

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Predictably, the Bitcoin community is generally in disagreement with Friedberg’s legal conclusions.

You think? 22 posts on this thread, and 11 posts on the Reddit thread, making that a grand total of 33 posts. Quick, fire up the grill! It's haggis time.
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February 14, 2016, 05:00:54 AM
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Genesis: http://www.riddellwilliams.com/blog/news-events/post/dan-friedberg-and-ryan-straus-join-the-corporate-finance-and-securities-practice-group-

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Ryan J. Straus and Daniel S. Friedberg Launch Payments Practice and Expand Corporate Transactions and Finance Practice

Experienced and well-known corporate lawyers, Ryan J. Straus and Daniel S. Friedberg, have joined the firm as Principals, and co-Chairs of the Payments practice area.

With a background in both technology and financial services, Ryan and Dan assist clients with payment matters, including electronic payments, mobile payments, prepaid cards, alternative currencies, and federal and state licensing.

Ryan and Dan advise clients in various industries and markets including banks, retail, gaming, manufacturers, service businesses, biotechnology companies, software, Internet, and construction businesses.

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February 14, 2016, 05:19:26 AM
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At my last checkup, my doctor said Core causes anal warts.  He gave me a prostate exam, and he said "Now this is going to hurt a bit."  And I screamed and said, "Doc, Jesus, did you get the whole fist in there?!"  Then I realized that couldn't be possible, as he had both hands on my shoulders.

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February 14, 2016, 05:53:04 AM
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At my last checkup, my doctor said Core causes anal warts.  He gave me a prostate exam, and he said "Now this is going to hurt a bit."  And I screamed and said, "Doc, Jesus, did you get the whole fist in there?!"  Then I realized that couldn't be possible, as he had both hands on my shoulders.

How often do you check your calendar to see how close you are to your next checkup?  Grin

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Ryan Straus' second follow was phil_hellmuth. Ryan's 9th and 10th follows were Patrick Murck and Jon Matonis, respectively.

Ryan J. Straus and Daniel S. Friedberg were both at Graham & Dunn, joining R&W in August 2013. This was just prior to Bitcoin's infamous bubble.

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Don't know what financial services practice that Ryan and Dan had/has, but we've recently learnt that Jon Friedberg's dad, Jeff Friedberd, operates a financial service.
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February 14, 2016, 06:30:31 AM
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Odd that this article is no longer available: https://twitter.com/unocoin/status/687159920756715520

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February 14, 2016, 11:43:42 PM
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http://www.americanbanker.com/bankthink/the-last-straw-for-bitcoin-1059608-1.html

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One question is whether the United States' posture will drive innovation into more lightly-regulated jurisdictions. FinTRAC, Fincen's Canadian counterpart, has recently indicated that certain Bitcoin transactions and business models will not require MSB registration in Canada. However, Stuart Hoegner, a Toronto attorney with clients in the Bitcoin field, says that, just like the United States, other regulations may still apply to bitcoin businesses. "The Department of Finance might also change the AML regulations, either on its own initiative or in response to pressure from the Financial Action Task Force or its members. The FinTRAC rules could change quickly," Hoegner told me.

The BSA is only one part of the U.S. financial regulatory landscape that Bitcoin businesses must navigate if they are to survive. Many Bitcoin entrepreneurs will also be subject to a variety of state money transmission regulatory schemes. Other federal regulators (such as the Commodity Futures Trading Commission) are also likely to weigh in.

If Bitcoin is to survive, it will have to do so as a transparent and (likely) expensive payment system operated by a bunch of financial institutions.

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Stuart Hoegner was the very first person who Ryan J. Straus followed on Twitter (the second person being Phil Hellmuth).
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Since the following article is no longer available on the Web (except on TWM), this: http://web.archive.org/web/20140304214237/http://hub.playerauctions.com/bitcoin-mtgox-ryanstraus

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Bitcoin, Mt. Gox & The Question of Trust

Guest contributor Ryan Straus is an attorney at Riddell Williams, P.S. and the co-chair of the firm’s Payments Practice Group.  Ryan’s practice focuses on emerging payments, virtual goods and alternative currencies. He has been featured in the American Banker, The Hill, Time, Forbes, Bloomberg and various other publications.  Ryan frequently writes and speaks about centralized and decentralized virtual currencies, stored value and other emerging payment issues.

The Mt. Gox situation is troublesome for the bitcoin industry as it exists today. However, the situation presents a bigger problem for the bitcoin industry than it does for bitcoin itself.  After all, this story is not about the squandering of trust by one party or the need to restore the community’s trust in other parties.  Rather, this story is about the continued bastardization of Bitcoin through the injection of the question of trust into a protocol that was designed to function without it.

“The real bitcoin story concerns the injection of the question of trust into a protocol that was designed to function without it.”

Bitcoin was designed as a reaction to the inherent weakness in the “trust-based model” and was proposed as a purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash to allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without a trusted third party.  In sum, the object was to dispense with the need for trust by designing a payment system based on cryptographic proof instead.

However, the joint statement issued by “industry leaders” seems to suggest a reversion to the trust-based system by noting the “hundreds of trustworthy and responsible companies involved in bitcoin” and suggesting that the “tragic violation of the trust of users of Mt. Gox” could be cured by an effort “to re-establish the trust squandered by the failings of Mt. Gox.”

It does not appear that the “tragic violation” was entirely the result of a single company’s actions but, rather, was the result of the industry’s apparent lack of commitment to the core mission of bitcoin: to replace trust with cryptographic proof.  Instead of attempting “to re-establish the trust squandered by the failings of Mt. Gox,” perhaps the “responsible companies involved in bitcoin” should work together to build companies that don’t rely on trust at all.

The above reflects Ryan’s personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Riddell Williams P.S. or its clients.
 
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1. @ShaunDreclin March 3, 2014 at 4:10 pm #

Wow, you make a brilliant point here. I’ve been keeping an eye on bitcoin but never really got into it, always interesting to read about stuff like this~


2. hacking skills February 28, 2014 at 4:42 am #

Thank you for the amaing read! Bookmarked it!  Grin

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Bitcoin 2013: The Future of Payments
May 17-19, 2013 - San Jose, CA: http://www.bitcoin2013.com/bitcoin-2013-panelists.html

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Stu Hoegner is an international gaming and tax attorney and accountant based in Toronto. He graduated from the Faculty of Law at the University of Toronto and is called to practice in Ontario and Nevada. He advises clients on games of skill and chance, contests, mergers and acquisitions, intellectual property, and corporate and tax matters. His clientele includes Internet gaming operators and sportsbooks, professional poker players, international land-based casino owners, equipment manufacturers, marketing and advertising companies, poker professionals, pharmaceutical businesses, and social media entrepreneurs. Stu writes a regular blog linked to gamingcounsel.co.

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Ryan Straus is the founder of the Payments Team at Graham & Dunn PC.  As an attorney with a background in both technology and financial services, Ryan assists clients with payment matters, including electronic payments, mobile payments, prepaid cards, alternative currencies, and federal/state licensing. Ryan’s financial services practice focuses on compliance, corporate governance, and regulatory matters.

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Dan Friedberg is a financial services and corporate attorney that specializes in emerging markets, including Bitcoin. Dan works for an established law firm that has represented financial services companies for over 100 years. Dan and his firm are experienced in regulatory compliance, including money transmitter licenses. Dan also assists companies with financings and public listings, including international stock listings. Dan received his MBA and his law degree, cum laude, from the University of Wisconsin, and received highest honors in political economy at Williams College.

All three were well-versed enough in Bitcoin to speak at the SJ conference. Note that Stu opted not to go by Stuart Hoegner, and Dan Friedberg opted to not mention what firm he represented.

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Just Conjecturin', Volume 44: The Dirty Birds

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"Well, your Honor," said the witness, "I swore to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but every time I try, some lawyer objects." -- classic lawyer joke

I love me some lawyer jokes, as do most sane people, even as I know that most funny jokes have roots in reality. This time out the topic is lawyers, and the only way to deal with such a stinky topic is to tackle it head on.

If you wondered if there'll be lawyerly tales in the upcoming book, the answer is yes, but in some ways the shocking part is not that there are lawyers involved in the UltimateBet and Absolute Poker cheating tales, but rather, how many. Several ongoing storylines connected to these matters circle back toward perhaps the most famous of all gaming lawyers, Montreal-based Morden "Cookie" Lazarus, of the firm Lazarus Charbonneau, and Cookie's fingerprints spread from these sites' earliest days all the way into the the Norwegian tax matter that we touched on last time out. It's safe -- even "legally safe", har har -- to say that Cookie is one of the secret legal puppetmasters of the online gaming world.

And yet this isn't about Cookie... yet. This time out it's more a matter of introducing some new legal players into the growing roll of folks affiliated with Excapsa or UB. They've all been familiar to me for some time, and all seem to have things to answer for.

There have been plenty of lawyers affiliated with the UB operations, some as staff counsel, and others as consultants. Boil it down and leave out some of the high-priced freelancers for the moment, and the real Excapsa lawyers of interest number just three.

First, there's Sanford "Sandy" Millar, a California-based attorney who served as Excapsa's day-to-day tax and payroll attorney, knowingly doing all this for a US company (that being Excapsa) that was clearly violating US gaming laws as it operated out of Portland, via a pretense of a sham Toronto office that was little more than a secretary and a dropbox. Millar was there virtually from the start, and was a significant Excapsa shareholder.

Second, there's Stuart Hoegner, a hired gun who arrived on the Excapsa scene around the start of 2006 to assist in the company's London Stock Exchange IPO, and to help with possible sales of the company that were also being discussed. Except the UIGEA was thrown into the mix late in 2006, and it was Hoegner who played a key role in designing the complex shell sale to Absolute Poker that involved bringing former Kahnawake Grand Chief Joseph Norton on as a nominal frontman. Hoegner remains on legal distribution lists on Excapsa matters to this day, despite his relatively late arrival on the Excapsa scene.

Hoegner pops up on Twitter often under his @GamingCounsel tag, and I get an exceptional kick out of him trying to redefine himself as a legal media expert while avoiding utterly all discussions of Excapsa, in light of his previous role. It's fun antagonizing the guy on Twitter, knowing that the things I allude to are true and supported by documentation and that he could never withstand a discovery process if he was to get serious about suing me.

In leaving Stuey (for the moment), it's worth noting a recent paper he delivered at a Las Vegas gaming conference that examined several prominent online poker networks' relative legal protections, strengths and weaknesses as pertained to various jurisdictions, including the US. To which I say, "Of course he's the expert -- he just spent the better part of a decade learning exactly which fine lines to dance and which grey areas to skirt!" You can visit Stuey at the website for his "boutique" law practice here.

But even Hoegner pales to one Daniel S. Friedberg, one of the true secret bad people behind the Excapsa facade. Friedberg was there from the very start, and his role in online poker matters follows a strange route indeed. Friedberg graduated along with Phil Hellmuth from the University of Wisconsin in Madison, and seems to have served as Phil Hellmuth's personal attorney -- kind of an agent for Phil's interests, back when UB was born. Friedberg soon became Excapsa's general counsel, with all that involved, even relocating at one point to Toronto to help put a little real meat behind that otherwise-sham office.

Friedberg, though, is a Wisconsin/Seattle person, and these days he keeps about as low a profile as one could possibly imagine for a corporate attorney. No public Twitter or Facebook feeds for an attorney or his practice... really?

Friedberg can be found, however, at a small Seattle legal firm, Crest Law Group. Here's his corporate page, and what's so damned odd about is that all the personal highlights just stop in 2006. The final highlight, listed first on his official bio, is this:

• Corporate counsel for $100 million IPO on the London Stock Exchange AIM (2006)

That's a reference to Excapsa's failed London Stock Exchange IPO, and after that, Friedberg's history -- or so he'd like the world to believe -- just goes dark.

And now, just a bit more of the story....

It appears that Friedberg joining Excapsa at its inception was part of the complex package that also ensconced Hellmuth as the site's frontman, and for the first part of the '00s, UB's corporate history is pretty well known. Friedberg did quite well for himself, garnering several million shares of Excapsa stock in addition to his pay, with said shares distributed across several different ownership entities.

Then the UIGEA happened, the IPO collapsed, and the hasty "sale" to Absolute Poker was arranged, with terms of sale very unfavorable to Excapsa's rank-and-file shareholders. Amid all this, Friedberg switched sides, going to work for Absolute Poker and becoming Scott Tom's attorney as well. You read it right: Friedberg kept himself tied to the money stream, wherever it went, and the Excapsa shareholders whose rights he was suppose to protect were instead just a disposable commodity. The general shareholders screamed about the blatant conflict of interest, but to no avail. A few of the key UB insiders remained tied to Cereus, either through software deals or the endorser packages offered to UB site pros Hellmuth and Annie Duke. But the proletariat shareholders were given a highly dubious promissory note, and pretty much dumped by the attorney who was supposed to be protecting them.

Even for an attorney, that's disgusting behavior.

Having already jumped ship, it's no surprise Friedberg's bad behavior continued on the AP side, when the rank-and-file shareholders at Madeira Fjord were later jettisoned in a similar manner. There's even a tale that circulates among AP ranks of Friedberg unilaterally withdrawing a stock option previously promised to AP spokesman Mark Seif, leaving Seif much worse off and with a smaller ownership stake than his original performance contract intended.

The whole Scott Tom thing, too. Circles within circles, but some of them are pretty damned tight.

But wait, there's more! Last year, listeners over at Bryan Micon's Donkdown Radio site were treated to an impromptu interview with Travis Makar, who is generally described as Russ Hamilton's computer guy. Among other things, Makar, his wife and his mother also had their names on cheating accounts controlled by Russ. Makar went on Donkdown to discuss a few things and hinted at a secret recording that was made of UB execs once the UB cheating scandal erupted.

Makar won't talk about this recording, which I had previously learned of anyway, and which was made by Russ Hamilton himself. The added tidbit coming from his Donkdown interview is where he accidentally let slip one of the participants in the meeting -- Daniel Friedberg. Among the topics relayed as being discussed in that meeting were that several people cheated using God Mode, that they had to discuss what percentage of cheated funds they'd had to give back, and decide who could be left off the refund list.

This means that at the very least, Friedberg actively participated in the cheating coverup at at least one site, UB, if not also over at AP. This is one dirty attorney. Maybe that fact should be added to that Strathmore's "Who's Who" listing Friedberg seems to be fond of.

Was Friedberg one of the actual hole-card cheaters? It seems odd that corporate counsel would have access to the cheating tool, but stranger things have happened. Nonetheless, sources have indicated Friedberg may have indeed been involved, and while the actual hand histories that would prove or disprove Friedberg's involvement remain sealed, he is confirmed to have played on the site from 2000 onward. Friedberg had at least three UB accounts -- "SEATTLE", "DANRAYN" and "BIGLOULEO" -- that date from UB's earliest days, and all readers are free to research those accounts to check win rates and look for suspicious hands. There may have been other Friedberg accounts as well.

Should the real hand histories ever be made public, they could prove Friedberg's innocence (or guilt). This writer makes no definitive accusation, beyond the scummy lawyerly stuff, but merely notes that the wall of smoke surrounding Friedberg remains firmly in place.

There's also the strange departure of Hellmuth from Cereus at the end of 2010, which to my knowledge has never been adequately explained. Annie Duke was already off contract and was being paid a monthly retainer, and she and Scott Tom hated each other's guts anyway; no surprise she was jettisoned. Yet Hellmuth's contract, according to AP insiders, lasted at least another year, and Hellmuth seems to have invited AP to void his deal by showing up at a December '10 poker tourney wearing "Aria"-branded gear. Doing so was probably a million-dollar decision and seems decidedly unlike the dollar-focused Hellmuth, unless he was tipped off to something bad in the works, which generally describes the Norwegian tax mess then just beginning to swirl around Absolute Poker. With back-looking perspective, one possible explanation now emerges: Did Friedberg tip off Hellmuth that it was time to get out?

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Business Name:   Crest Law Group Pllc
Contact Person:   Ryan Straus
Address:   600 North 36th St # 324 Seattle, Washington 98103

INAL, thus correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't lawyers as a whole bright folks that perform all sorts of investigations thingies? If so, then why were/is Patrick Murck and Jon Matonis kowtowing the likes of them? I wonder if any of this has to do with the missing millions over at The Bitcoin Foundation. Hmmmmmmmmm!
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February 15, 2016, 03:52:01 AM
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The “advisers,” Elliott Wolf of Peanut Butter Publishing, and Dan Friedberg and Ryan Straus of Crest Law Group, have all been remarkably useful, positive and always forward thinking.

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Ryan is an attorney and co-chair of the Payments Practice Group at Riddell Williams in Seattle. He has a background
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payments, mobile payments, prepaid cards, alternative currencies, and federal and state licensing. Ryan is counsel for
industry leaders in banking, payment processing and cryptocurrency sectors. Ryan is also a member of the
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February 15, 2016, 04:19:12 AM
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So... I guess the only question left is: Who could possibly be motivated to employ these jokers to spread such FUD, and why?

I caution anyone against holding their breath while waiting for an answer.
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February 15, 2016, 04:26:03 AM
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So... I guess the only question left is: Who could possibly be motivated to employ these jokers to spread such FUD, and why?

I caution anyone against holding their breath while waiting for an answer.

I take a stab at the question: To manipulate the market to better their positions at the expense of those on the thinning-of-pockets end.

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BINGO! <Albeit Leroy Fodor's 3-year-old son probably already beat me to the punch with his Google-fu prowess between tracking his crack whore sister. HAHAHA>

http://www.cardplayer.com/cptv/channels/14-under-the-gun/poker-videos/4387-under-the-gun-poker-legal-update-with-stuart-hoegner

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Under The Gun -- Poker Legal Update With Stuart Hoegner

Oct 04, 2010

Jon Freidberg hosts another episode of Under The Gun, brought to you by UB.com. In this show Jon speaks in depth with poker legal expert Stuart Hoegner, who is somewhat of a twitter celebrity based on his frequent info on the legal aspects of the poker industry. They discuss Barney Frank’s bill, HR 2267, the possibility of regulating online poker and other pressing poker legal issues.
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February 15, 2016, 06:09:05 AM
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The Bitcoin Opportunity Panel - How to Profit in an Uncertain Market - Bitcoin 2013 Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-lIBRir1F8

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Moderator: Dan Friedberg and panelists Micky Malka, Patrick Murck, Stuart Hoegner, Arlene Chan discuss the Bitcoin opportunity at the Bitcoin 2013 Conference, May 19, 2013, San Jose, CA, hosted by the Bitcoin Foundation. For more information or to join or donate, please visit https://bitcoinfoundation.org.

We already know Dan Friedberg and Stuart Hoegner's history, but how about Arlene Chan?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/arlene-chan-1638743

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Audit Senior Manager
Moss Adams LLP
March 2009 – Present (7 years)

Senior Manager, Audit
Ernst & Young LLP
October 1994 – December 2008 (14 years 3 months)

https://ca.linkedin.com/in/stuart-hoegner-bb67695

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Deputy GC, Director of Compliance
Excapsa
January 2006 – December 2006 (1 year)

Manager, M&A Tax Services
Ernst & Young
September 1998 – December 2005 (7 years 4 months)

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February 16, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
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I would like to nominate Friedberg's article (http://www.riddellwilliams.com/blog/articles/post/hard-fork-conspiracy-treacherous) for consideration as February's  Cheesy FUD o' the Month Grin. (Predictably it was picked up by Forbes' FUDster Janson Blomberg -- see http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2016/02/13/is-the-looming-bitcoin-hard-fork-illegal/#24b4a50d4b13).

As justification for my nomination, I cite the following as Friedberg FUD:

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If either the Bitcoin Classic or the BitcoinXT plan (or both) goes forward, the creators of the replacement software could face serious legal consequences and potentially criminal liability for their actions. . . . Bitcoin Classic and BitcoinXT (meaning in this case the new resulting currency itself rather than the software) would likely be considered by FinCEN to be a new convertible virtual currency. Miners who unilaterally adopt the new replacement software could face liability under either tortious or statutory claims.

This is FUD because the U.S. government does not consider bitcoin to be a currency and is not "likely" to in the future, in spite of a pending case in California involving a bankruptcy (see https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-commodity-currency-california-bankruptcy-judge-decide/). The U.S. Commodities Futures Trading Commission ruled on September 17, 2015 that bitcoins are a commodity (see http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7231-15) and on March 25, 2014, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service ruled (see https://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/IRS-Virtual-Currency-Guidance) that bitcoin would be treated as property for tax purposes, stating in part:

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In some environments, virtual currency operates like “real” currency -- i.e., the coin and paper money of the United States or of any other country that is designated as legal tender, circulates, and is customarily used and accepted as a medium of exchange in the country of issuance -- but it does not have legal tender status in any jurisdiction.

Second Friedberg FUD nomination citation:

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To the extent that a recipient of bitcoin expects normal bitcoin but instead receives “Bitcoin Classic” or “BitcoinXT” virtual currency due to the actions of a miner, that recipient could argue that the actions of the miner resulted in a dispossession. To the extent that the market value of the two types of virtual currency differ, damages would be easy to prove.

This is FUD because Bitcoin Classic requires that at least 75% of miners and nodes adopt it before the fork becomes operational by requiring remaining miners and nodes to convert. With a fork that strong, there is no way the current block-size implementation could ever catch up computationally, and so would never be secure enough to warrant further use. (For a good anti-FUD video on Classic, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7jt5558bVY.)

In other words, no competing forks and bitcoins, and no more Friedberg FUD. Please submit your ballots by March 1.

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