Wondering why Trolling is still against the forum rules .

[mexxer-2]

If a post is borderline, and driving an important matter off topic, it is more likely to be removed. Think of a post made in Technical Support vs Economics. The environment is different, and I'd wager a guess that the exact same borderline post may survive in Economics, but not Tech support.

Aand that is pretty much the answer to the(this) thread.

P.S: Forgot to say, welcome back

[BitcoinEXpress]

Often been accused of being a troll.


Never banned  


~BCX~



Added: Welcome back Saltyspitoon, good to see you're still alive!

[The Sceptical Chymist]

And then you get fine, upstanding citizens like TECSHARE who acts like a cunt when someone disagrees with him, even going so far as to troll on trust pages (hint:  see my trust page).

Lets be clear about this. I don't act like a cunt with people just for disagreeing with me, however if you act like a cunt I will treat you as such. I tried to have a civil discussion with you, but you repeatedly made it personal. I tried to PM you so we could work out our differences like adults but you were not interested and blocked me.

Since I was not interested in shitting up one of the threads we were having a discussion in, I left a NEUTRAL rating on your trust page so other people have a record of your cunty behavior as a way of defending my own reputation since you are so fond of personally attacking me. You are just here to jerk yourself off, I am here to trade, you attack me personally and threaten my ability to trade, that is not acceptable for me. If I bothered to do this with everyone who disagreed with me I would never have time to eat or sleep. The moral of the story, don't act like a cunt and you won't get treated like one.

So point out the origin of this for me and for anyone else, were you ever aware of me tarnishing poor TECSHARE's reputation on a date before he left me that cunty feedback?  You wanted to have a discussion I didn't want to have, because you're a fucking troll and I don't argue with trolls.  Been there, done that.  You're not a victim of anything, so stop acting like one.

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Trolling isn't against the forum rules. In fact, there aren't any rules to begin with. I've seen the moderators be quite rude to people continuously, and also be extremely bi-polar, confusing, and careless. I've never seen such unprofessional behavior, but we have to keep in mind that this is the internet, and behavior like this flies pretty well. If I was a moderator here, I would be getting paid to actually make a positive difference here. (That is, if moderators actually get paid).

[Zeke2345]

Trolling isn't against the forum rules. In fact, there aren't any rules to begin with. I've seen the moderators be quite rude to people continuously, and also be extremely bi-polar, confusing, and careless. I've never seen such unprofessional behavior. If I was a moderator here, I would be getting paid to actually make a positive difference here. (That is, if moderators actually get paid).

If you are going to accuse mods of trolling you should post evidence of that. Do not think it is a easy job dealing with so many quirky personalities, myself included.

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Trolling isn't against the forum rules. In fact, there aren't any rules to begin with. I've seen the moderators be quite rude to people continuously, and also be extremely bi-polar, confusing, and careless. I've never seen such unprofessional behavior. If I was a moderator here, I would be getting paid to actually make a positive difference here. (That is, if moderators actually get paid).

If you are going to accuse mods of trolling you should post evidence of that. Do not think it is a easy job dealing with so many quirky personalities, myself included.

Just look around. I don't really like to put people on the spot, regardless of their profession.

[Zeke2345]

Trolling isn't against the forum rules. In fact, there aren't any rules to begin with. I've seen the moderators be quite rude to people continuously, and also be extremely bi-polar, confusing, and careless. I've never seen such unprofessional behavior. If I was a moderator here, I would be getting paid to actually make a positive difference here. (That is, if moderators actually get paid).

If you are going to accuse mods of trolling you should post evidence of that. Do not think it is a easy job dealing with so many quirky personalities, myself included.

Just look around. I don't really like to put people on the spot, regardless of their profession.

Actually you did call them out as a group.
Reason I stated you should make reference if you want to slag on them. Do not know a mod here with a thin skin, so have at it.
Or where you just posting to post?

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Trolling isn't against the forum rules. In fact, there aren't any rules to begin with. I've seen the moderators be quite rude to people continuously, and also be extremely bi-polar, confusing, and careless. I've never seen such unprofessional behavior. If I was a moderator here, I would be getting paid to actually make a positive difference here. (That is, if moderators actually get paid).

If you are going to accuse mods of trolling you should post evidence of that. Do not think it is a easy job dealing with so many quirky personalities, myself included.

Just look around. I don't really like to put people on the spot, regardless of their profession.

Actually you did call them out as a group.
Reason I stated you should make reference if you want to slag on them. Do not know a mod here with a thin skin, so have at it.
Or where you just posting to post?

It's evident I am not posting to post. I am being honest with my own experience. I "called them out" as a group, yes. However, I will not be specific. It's not my place to do so. As I have suggested, do your own research and make your own analysis if you feel the need.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Assuming you're not posting for Signature sakes (like most of your posts ),I'm replying.

Trolling isn't against the forum rules. In fact, there aren't any rules to begin with.

Okay,so you mean all those stickies are a joke ? People get banned for silly reasons ?

I've seen the moderators be quite rude to people continuously, and also be extremely bi-polar, confusing, and careless.

Where ? If it does't have a proof,it never happened. Mods don't Kiss and tell.They're not paid to answer your newbie queries .Stickes are.

I've never seen such unprofessional behavior, but we have to keep in mind that this is the internet, and behavior like this flies pretty well.

If you have so much problems with the forum,why don't you leave ? Internet is big,100's of other forum's out there where your problems will be dealt professionally.Its simple,if you are not okay with something,change it or move on.(In this case second options seems feasible)

If I was a moderator here, I would be getting paid to actually make a positive difference here. (That is, if moderators actually get paid).

How ? Please explain ? You don't have be a moderator to make a positive difference .Tell me till date what positive difference have you brought to the community instead of whining about the forum polices ?

[PakistanHockeyfan]

Tell me till date what positive difference have you brought to the community instead of whining about the forum polices ? If you have a problem, why don't you leave?

The "If you have a problem, why don't you leave/our way or the highway" excuse is what people like to use when they don't want to be given constructive criticism on how they should run their businesses. It's understandable, but quite unprofessional as business owners should care what customers think in regards to their services/products.

I also find it rather ironic that you'd use that excuse against me, when it is clear you have a problem with my posts. With that in mind, perhaps taking your own advice is crucial to not being so upset with me.

"If you don't like my posts, why don't you block me?"



Judging by your attitude from this post, it is clear you will not really listen to what I have to say. Therefore, having any type of discussion with you is pointless as you will continue thinking the way you do. When you get your own business, my advice is to listen to your clients/customers and take the time to hear what they have to say, and ask why they feel the way they do, or what you can do to make their experience with your business better. If you don't listen to them, in as little as 6 months or 3 years, they will gradually begin to believe you don't really need their support, whether it be financially or verbally.


I'll be stirring clear of you. I just don't want to argue. I'm sorry for any type of inconvenience that may cause.

[Joel_Jantsen]

The "If you have a problem, why don't you leave/our way or the highway" excuse is what people like to use when they don't want to be given constructive criticism on how they should run their businesses. It's understandable, but quite unprofessional as business owners should care what customers think in regards to their services/products.

Business owners? Customers ? What are you high on mate ?If you are going to use real life implications,please make it sensible.No,I don't mean to give you "Constructive Criticism" ,I gave you a solution.Being Straight Forward is not being unprofessional.From your post,you did not constructively contributed to the topic either,instead you were whining how unprofessional and careless mods are when it comes to the forum polices.
 

I also find it rather ironic that you'd use that excuse against me, when it is clear you have a problem with my posts. With that in mind, perhaps taking your own advice is crucial to not being so upset with me.

You're taking it personally here.Being upset with you or anyone is the last thing I'd see myself doing in this forum.

"If you don't like my posts, why don't you block me?"

There you go,you suggested a solution for me indeed,just like I did to you by saying "You could leave if you have problems with this forum" make sense now ?

Judging by your attitude from this post, it is clear you will not really listen to what I have to say. Therefore, having any type of discussion with you is pointless as you will continue thinking the way you do.

People posted their opinions before you did.I agree with most of them ,answers by SaltySpitton/Lauda/Hilarious/Mex/SebastinJu were convincing and I did agree with them and had nothing to argue about since it was all making sense to me.There is no need to judge me on the basis of this post,my reputation is not build up from it.But that's upto you.As far as your "personal drama" is concerned,I don't have any issues with you or anyone for that matter.You can check my previous posts I pretty much deal with everybody quite Straight Forward,if that's unprofessional for someone people ,let it be.

[SaltySpitoon]

Often been accused of being a troll.

Never banned  

~BCX~

Added: Welcome back Saltyspitoon, good to see you're still alive!

Thanks, been alive, just busy. You were one of those often accused never banned due to witty and constructive insults that I almost mentioned, but since you weren't involved in the conversation, figured I wouldn't call names.

Trolling isn't against the forum rules. In fact, there aren't any rules to begin with. I've seen the moderators be quite rude to people continuously, and also be extremely bi-polar, confusing, and careless. I've never seen such unprofessional behavior, but we have to keep in mind that this is the internet, and behavior like this flies pretty well. If I was a moderator here, I would be getting paid to actually make a positive difference here. (That is, if moderators actually get paid).

I'm assuming you are being facetious, but in case you aren't, there are indeed rules here. If you check out the unofficial rules thread stickied here in Meta, you will see Bitcointalk's rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0). The only reason they are considered unofficial rules even though they have been thoroughly discussed by the staff members in the thread, as well as lots of community members, is because ultimately, as long as moderators act in good faith and don't deliberately violate any rules that make sense in the situation, they have discretion.

An example of what actually happened here where moderators took action even though it would have been unacceptable by the official rules. Someone under the age of 18 was attempting to sell illicit photos/videos of themselves from a country that allowed it. By the marketplace rules, you are allowed to buy/sell whatever you want, as long as its legal in your jurisdiction. Had that rule been steadfast, removing the thread wouldn't have happened, and it would have been OK as long as buyers from countries that didn't allow it didn't take part. That's an example of why "there aren't any rules to begin with." Moderators are welcome to be as rude and unprofessional as they like, however Theymos has a vested interest in not having those sort of people be moderators for long.

If you are going to accuse mods of trolling you should post evidence of that. Do not think it is a easy job dealing with so many quirky personalities, myself included.

I'm sure it happens, and you are exactly right. Keep in mind the population of Bitcointalk tends to skew anarcho-libertarianism. Most people here aren't 100% thrilled with the concept of moderators or limiting of their right to unlimited free speech (aka Spam/unnecessary disruptive behavior/etc) sometimes dealing with individuals, even kindly and with logic doesn't work. Sometimes you just have to give up and deal with the demanding pms asking why their thread on Bitcoin's doom due to secret lizardman affiliation was moved from the marketplace section to off topic. After an attempt or two, I personally would probably harass the person a little bit, rather than blowing up and calling them a moron. Each moderator deals with things differently.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Here's the definition of a client, provided by Google:

noun: client; plural noun: clients
1.
a person or organization using the services of a lawyer or other professional person or company.

At least you tried.I'll give you one for that.

This forum is a service of social media in terms of an anonymous medium to discuss Bitcoin, and even make transactions. A client specifically does not have to necessarily pay for services to be considered a client. A customer indeed does, but not a client.

Dude,you're utilizing this forum without paying a penny for it.The least you can do is follow their rules..

In this situation, I have already blocked the OP so it was difficult for me to locate the thread to respond, not knowing I was even quoted twice.

Congratulations.You will be missing out on a lot of fun mate.

It would become another way to get a lot of people to simply stop using the site if they end up supporting me, so this encounter was definitely documented.

Hire yourself a lawyer ,file a lawsuit.Heard Pakistani Laws are quite strict when it comes to Forum posting right ?

As clients who clearly enjoy occupying this site to a degree, our only motif in giving honest polite opinions is to make the site better as users. Take my words as a friendly tip and learn from them, or this website will eventually lose its clients/users. If you will not care about us, we will not care about you. It's as basic as I can explain it.

As said earlier,the door is open,for you to leave.