POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP?

[noobtrader]

scam dev is when dev keep hyping about his ability and promise about the next big coin he is about to make and he never did make one. nevertheless he still able to badmouthing other coin project which already delivering product.

shame on you scam dev, shame on you....

That would be a sham dev, not a scam dev. Can't really scam anyone unless products and/or money are exchanged.

If someone sells me a Justin Beiber CD and tells me it's Death Metal, then they scammed me. If Justin Beiber tells me he's playing guitar for a Death Metal band, then he's a sham, or phony, or liar--but he'd need to sell me tickets to his pop concert or to a Metal show that doesn't exist for it to be a scam.

Do you see the difference?

As for your not-so-subtle attack on TPTB_need_war, he's working on something, has proved that he excels at analyzing complex systems, and has a deeper than most here understanding of math, so some of his bravado is warranted, though whether he finishes his current project or how much of an impact it makes remains to be seen. But given you've kept to your noob namesake and have perpetually backed a poorly built coin, you are hardly in a position to judge, unless you aren't a noob trader and are actually a long standing troll with a long standing agenda of criticizing anyone who criticizes the alt project you are backing--then you'd be the sham, and the equivalent of a bad actor prating on the stage with the same tired lines and 2-dimensial character development.

quite a bad analogy considering that justin beiber did not fud on death metal music.
say... if  u claim that  u were justin beiber and  u also claim that metal death music are product of satan. what would that be  

It's a great analogy considering it is only referencing the difference between scam and sham, which you seem to not get. I'm sure you have a problem with TPTB_need_war's appraisal of a certain shitcoin you defend, but calling it FUD, or calling its critics scammers, doesn't remove the criticism, it only distracts from it--so instead of wasting people's time with petty jokes and personal trolling, maybe find a technical basis for why the criticism is or isn't true. Though I doubt technical discussions are really your strength and the sideshow antics are the best you can do (and just a heads-up, this failure for technical merit by its defenders is probably why that coin is rated so high in scam polls).

so..........

basically you were saying that TPTB is a sham...
 

BTW, Talk is cheap, here i  remind you of the challenge by Dash team to de-anonymize their tx  ::

weaksauce privacy wannabe coin

Tell me the source address of this transaction then if it's oh so weak:

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

[generalizethis]

scam dev is when dev keep hyping about his ability and promise about the next big coin he is about to make and he never did make one. nevertheless he still able to badmouthing other coin project which already delivering product.

shame on you scam dev, shame on you....

That would be a sham dev, not a scam dev. Can't really scam anyone unless products and/or money are exchanged.

If someone sells me a Justin Beiber CD and tells me it's Death Metal, then they scammed me. If Justin Beiber tells me he's playing guitar for a Death Metal band, then he's a sham, or phony, or liar--but he'd need to sell me tickets to his pop concert or to a Metal show that doesn't exist for it to be a scam.

Do you see the difference?

As for your not-so-subtle attack on TPTB_need_war, he's working on something, has proved that he excels at analyzing complex systems, and has a deeper than most here understanding of math, so some of his bravado is warranted, though whether he finishes his current project or how much of an impact it makes remains to be seen. But given you've kept to your noob namesake and have perpetually backed a poorly built coin, you are hardly in a position to judge, unless you aren't a noob trader and are actually a long standing troll with a long standing agenda of criticizing anyone who criticizes the alt project you are backing--then you'd be the sham, and the equivalent of a bad actor prating on the stage with the same tired lines and 2-dimensial character development.

quite a bad analogy considering that justin beiber did not fud on death metal music.
say... if  u claim that  u were justin beiber and  u also claim that metal death music are product of satan. what would that be  

It's a great analogy considering it is only referencing the difference between scam and sham, which you seem to not get. I'm sure you have a problem with TPTB_need_war's appraisal of a certain shitcoin you defend, but calling it FUD, or calling its critics scammers, doesn't remove the criticism, it only distracts from it--so instead of wasting people's time with petty jokes and personal trolling, maybe find a technical basis for why the criticism is or isn't true. Though I doubt technical discussions are really your strength and the sideshow antics are the best you can do (and just a heads-up, this failure for technical merit by its defenders is probably why that coin is rated so high in scam polls).

so..........

basically you were saying that TPTB is a sham...
 

BTW, Talk is cheap, here i  remind you of the challenge by Dash team to de-anonymize their tx  ::

weaksauce privacy wannabe coin

Tell me the source address of this transaction then if it's oh so weak:

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

No, you have a problem with misreading, what I said was that your accusation is that TPTB_need_war is a sham, but you're incorrectly using the word scam as a stand-in.

Also, as far as breaking anonymity is concerned, this is a fallacy that I somewhat covered in this thread in #2:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.0

BTW, Shadowcash was brazenly using this "prove it" argument until they weren't

[TPTB_need_war]

No, you have a problem with misreading, what I said was that your accusation is that TPTB_need_war is a sham, but you're incorrectly using the word scam as a stand-in.

Also, as far as breaking anonymity is concerned, this is a fallacy that I somewhat covered in this thread in #2:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.0

BTW, Shadowcash was brazenly using this "prove it" argument until they weren't

And he can't even call me a sham, until he refutes my technical arguments, which the Dashtards gave up because they realized they couldn't.

And the "prove it" is scam methodology, when the masternodes are ostensibly (and mathematically obviously) monopolized by the instamine insiders  who have been receiving up to 50% per annum ROI on staking their instamined coins, and even the argument that they sold into the bubble as refuted by myself with basic market theory that says the majority buy the top and the insiders control the float so they have the information to know when to sell the top and buy the bottom because they control this.

We've refuted everything they say dozens and dozens of times. They just want to waste more of my time so I would be distracted from my coding. I must ignore them now.