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August 28, 2012, 08:19:26 PM
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How can you guys be so optimistic when alternatives that remove or strongly reduce the cost of energy to maintain the security of the network are around the corner?

Are you talking about ASIC mining, which basically increases security by an order of magnitude for any given level of energy consumed? Smiley

I suspect the reference is to the latest bitcoin-killing solid coin...

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I'm talking about wroking proof-of-stake alternatives.

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August 29, 2012, 07:07:48 AM
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I was little disappointed after reading the strategy, basically just saying "keep promoting and developing bitcoin". Thread starter must be a genius Cheesy

Apologies, I could have expanded a lot more but I think the community already has the magic formula.

"Just keep swimming..."
"Just keep swimming..."
"Just keep swimming..."


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If there's one thing that stands out it's generate trust.

Bitcoin has to become the most trusted currency it can be, or even, in the world.  

In most currencies it is the job of centralized authorities to reduce fraud.  But all too often, fraud becomes institutionalized.  As legacy currencies start to lose trust, new ones will gain trust.  I call this "The Law of Conservation of Trust".  The total amount of trust in a monetary system remains roughly a constant.  Bitcoin is well placed to gain brand value as other poorly managed currencies falter.

Here is the gap a decentralized currency can fill.  Decentralization leads to a fault tolerant and self healing network, where it's very hard for one body to disrupt everything.

Every transaction in good faith strengthens the trust, and therefore, the network

- Increase the volume of good transactions
- Increase the success stories
- Increase the outlets
- Scale out the OTC web of trust
- Increase users
- Inspire people, by generating a culture of good ethics

Every time one of these things happens, bitcoin becomes one step closer to being the next great world currency.  Network economics dictates that each new increment in the system takes bitcoin to a new level and makes it almost exponentially harder for any competition to challenge it.  

Hoarding, speculation and fraud are part of any currency.  But we should aim for a culture that encourages good behaviour, discourages bad behaviour and perhaps provides metrics.  (These are the classic 3 properties of an effective trust network).

Quality, integrity and trust are key.  Try not to split energies too much until it's felt a critical mass has been achieved.  

Just as in the rise of google or any other great share.  Price increase should be a side effect of continuing (as a community) to do things well, rather than, the result of any one action.  

Dont focus on the valuation.  Participate in strategies to generate trust, and everyone wins. Smiley
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August 29, 2012, 07:32:02 AM
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This makes me afraid of spending my coins. If in some years I look back and see that I've paid e.g. 0.5 BTC for a few ad impressions, and each coin is then worth $1000... Undecided

The mistake of spending a coin would be dwarfed by the mistake of not converting everything you can into them. As long as you are worrying about spending one you haven't taken your exposure to where it should be which is the point at which you are equally concerned with one bitcoins worth of dollars as you are with one bitcoins worth of bitcoins. My dollars are relatively precious only because I hold so freaking few compared to bitcoins.

Also that .5BTC ad impression ought make you .51BTC back or you really should hesitate

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August 29, 2012, 07:33:08 AM
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I was thinking the same thing. If BTC could be bought like a mutual fund it could be pitched as a unique, risky but futuristic option for automatic monthly IRA contributions. We'd just need some fund manager to set up the automatic purchase at market price and storage of BTC is some sort of insured bitcoin bank. They take a percentage and report fund value daily just like a mutual fund. With the flood of new money the price would skyrocket, then word of mouth takes over and everybody else wants in.

We early adopters get rich, the fund manager gets mega-rich, and suddenly Joe the Plumber knows about bitcoin.

Sadly, I don't think that fund managers could touch bitcoin with a 10 foot pole.

Fund managers do all kinds of shit, like outright steal. I'm pretty sure they will find ways to get BTC exposure when they want it.

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August 29, 2012, 12:50:56 PM
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I've been hoping people with the right connections would start reaching out more then they have. There are lot of places I would like to see accept bitcoins. If someone could get Cydia (apple jailbreak store) to start accepting bitcoins that would be a great start.

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August 29, 2012, 10:26:56 PM
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I can appreciate the optimistic naturue and faith of the op.  Its good to know there are many other trying to push forward and help bitcoin to grow.  Not that anything shocking is here, but some consistent devotion which bitcoin greatly needs.

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August 30, 2012, 01:09:38 AM
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I've been hoping people with the right connections would start reaching out more then they have. There are lot of places I would like to see accept bitcoins. If someone could get Cydia (apple jailbreak store) to start accepting bitcoins that would be a great start.

http://www.saurik.com

"If you need to get a hold of me, I at least vaguely recommend connecting to irc.saurik.com and joining #iphone or #saurik. I tend to check it most of the time, but if not at least once a day (so stay connected and be patient if I'm not there right then). If you only have a webbrowser, you can use my web IRC client."

From his blog.
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August 30, 2012, 04:24:09 AM
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http://www.bitcoindance.com/



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August 30, 2012, 05:10:00 AM
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This makes me afraid of spending my coins. If in some years I look back and see that I've paid e.g. 0.5 BTC for a few ad impressions, and each coin is then worth $1000... Undecided

The mistake of spending a coin would be dwarfed by the mistake of not converting everything you can into them. As long as you are worrying about spending one you haven't taken your exposure to where it should be which is the point at which you are equally concerned with one bitcoins worth of dollars as you are with one bitcoins worth of bitcoins. My dollars are relatively precious only because I hold so freaking few compared to bitcoins.

Also that .5BTC ad impression ought make you .51BTC back or you really should hesitate
Cautious / sane people are not going to convert a large % (or even a small one) of their wealth without confidence.

Most people will never understand how bitcoin works, nor have to.

But building the confidence will take time.  It's not going to happen in 6 months, or even 6 years.  But 6 years is enough to build a reasonable base of confidence.

To see the kind of usage some people think of as inevitable is at least going to take 15 years or more.  But that's fine and the way it should be.
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August 30, 2012, 08:36:12 PM
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Your comments on building confidence make sense.  I would like to think we are on the right track when the market still stays above $10 when pirate announces his defaulting.  It shows an improvement in stability.

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August 30, 2012, 11:02:43 PM
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This is why I want OUYA to get first-party bitcoin support.

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April 02, 2013, 02:09:43 PM
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Note: bitcoin has gone up 1000% since I posted this in August 2012

We just need to do the same thing again...

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April 02, 2013, 11:32:35 PM
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Love reading old posts. Kudos OP!

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