My payouts for KANO pool are different from what I actually receive in my wallet

[DragonDog]

I just started pointing a few of my machines to KANO.IS pool....here is what their payments page says:

Block           Address                                                 Status   BTC
455999   ###########################       0.00490208
455993   ###########################       0.00456871
455933   ###########################       0.00348673
455877   ###########################       0.00233820
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total:                                                                      0.01529572

When i look at my bitcoin wallet, I see the following:

Total Received: 0.00919057, Total Sent: 0.00000000

Final Balance: 0.00919057

Total transactions: 2

Recent transactions:
           Date ▼                          Amount           Balance
⚫   2017-03-06 09:34:40         0.00678640          0.00919057
⚫   2017-03-05 15:23:58         0.00240417          0.00240417
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So, I seem to be missing 0.00610515 in my wallet.  as of this moment, all of the blocks but the latest one have matured.  Why am i getting less than the KANO.IS payout page is saying I should have gotten?

Can someone explain this to me?  The rewards page shows me the same exact information as the payout page.

Thank you in advance for your help on this.

[VRobb]

It's all here: https://www.kano.is/index.php?k=payout

Short answer, pool payouts are set as zero fee transactions, so it's kano's next solved block that confirms the previous rewards...

Just set and forget; kano runs one of the best, if not the best, pool out there!

[NotFuzzyWarm]

"Just started point my machines"
As in how long ago? PPLNS means that it takes time (5n) to ramp up to full payout per-THs. Done to reduce pool-hopping. In short it usually takes a few days for payout to ramp up. Conversely, when you leave the pool you will continue to receive payouts until the difference (from the ramp up) zeros out.

ref https://www.kano.is/index.php?k=payout

[DragonDog]

It's all here: https://www.kano.is/index.php?k=payout

Short answer, pool payouts are set as zero fee transactions, so it's kano's next solved block that confirms the previous rewards...

Just set and forget; kano runs one of the best, if not the best, pool out there!

Thank you for your response.

To clarify, transaction fees are not charged when kano makes a payout....but, if this is the case, why would TX fees seem to have been subtracted from the total i was supposed to receive?

Also, why would i receive payouts for blocks that have not yet been confirmed?  The last two payouts I received were for blocks that had not yet fully matured....

And yes, I will eventually just set and forget...but before I do that, I just want to understand how everything works....

Thanks again

[DragonDog]

"Just started point my machines"
As in how long ago? PPLNS means that it takes time (5n) to ramp up to full payout per-THs. Done to reduce pool-hopping. In short it usually takes a few days for payout to ramp up. Conversely, when you leave the pool you will continue to receive payouts until the difference (from the ramp up) zeros out.

ref https://www.kano.is/index.php?k=payout

I started pointing my machines to kano pool march 2nd....

And i do not really have a problem with the amount I am getting paid (i really don't know what to compare it to anyways to know if the payout is good or bad).  The only issue i am having is that the amounts stated on the KANO PAYOUTS page are different from the amounts I actually received in my wallet.  I figured if it says I should have gotten X, then when i log into my wallet I should see X.  But i am starting to get the picture that the amount in my wallet is the amount after transaction fees have been subtracted....

so are you saying that these transaction fees are subtracted from my payouts at first and then given back to me over time to prevent pool hopping?

Thanks a lot for answering my questions.  I appreciate it

[VRobb]

Frankly that makes no sense.  Every transaction in my wallet exactly corresponds with the rewards and payout pages.  Nothing missing, ever.  No transaction fees are taken from what the rewards and payout pages show.  Strange, what wallet are you using?

[philipma1957]

I just started pointing a few of my machines to KANO.IS pool....here is what their payments page says:

Block           Address                                                 Status   BTC
455999   ###########################       0.00490208
455993   ###########################       0.00456871
455933   ###########################       0.00348673
455877   ###########################       0.00233820
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total:                                                                      0.01529572

When i look at my bitcoin wallet, I see the following:

Total Received: 0.00919057, Total Sent: 0.00000000

Final Balance: 0.00919057

Total transactions: 2

Recent transactions:
           Date ▼                          Amount           Balance
⚫   2017-03-06 09:34:40         0.00678640          0.00919057
⚫   2017-03-05 15:23:58         0.00240417          0.00240417
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, I seem to be missing 0.00610515 in my wallet.  as of this moment, all of the blocks but the latest one have matured.  Why am i getting less than the KANO.IS payout page is saying I should have gotten?

Can someone explain this to me?  The rewards page shows me the same exact information as the payout page.

Thank you in advance for your help on this.

If you are going to post a question  and want an answer  yu need to post your receive address.

here is mine


https://blockchain.info/address/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

this is the newest payment  from him to all of us.  note I am second on the list

https://blockchain.info/tx/d6978394c2563e1e3f1d249ef1d0f785c53ca1a6629693b9d0ffbbdccf12c0d8

[GWhisper]

Also, why would i receive payouts for blocks that have not yet been confirmed?  The last two payouts I received were for blocks that had not yet fully matured....

This does not happen, once a block has more than 100 confirms it is queued to be paid when the next block is found. Therefore blocks 455999, 455993 and 455933 are yet to the paid.

[-ck]

Please use the support thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0
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