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October 12, 2017, 09:55:20 AM
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Hope you can help me with performance, temp and power issue.

My new card is an Aorus RX 580 8GB Hynix installed in a rig with 2x1070 and 4x1060.

OS:Win10 pro
Driver:amd blockchain driver(aug 23) + amd settings (wattman)+ ati pixel patch

Miner: claymore v10.0
EthDcrMiner64.exe  -mode 1 -platform 1 -epool eth-sg.dwarfpool.com:8008 -ewal 0xAAAAAAA -epsw x

at stock bios and stock clocks and voltages:
ethash: 22Mh/s @ 120W with temps reaching 80C

I already did the most basic bios mod of copying 1750 -> 2000 timing straps
Bios Editor: Polaris Bios Editor v1.6.2(https://github.com/jaschaknack/PolarisBiosEditor)
ethash: 25Mh/s @ 120W with temps reaching 80C

Does anyone here have good roms for this card?
What hash rates are you getting at what power consumption and temps?
Are you guys using the blockchain driver? Should I shift back to regular drivers?
Are you able to unlock core voltage controls in MSI afterburner?

Should I just give this card away? It really suxors.
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October 12, 2017, 10:28:30 AM
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im also having issues with 4gb versions....very low hash compared to my sapphires and very hard to keep stable :-(

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October 12, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
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The power consumption you can decide with MSI Afterburner at which rate you want it, also the temperature. If you have modified the Bios like you should it should do about 28 Mhash with 90 watt of energy consumed. The problem with Hynix memory is that even if you over clock the memory or core clock of the card with MSI Afterburner it will not have any effect on its actual hashrate. You have done the maximum yourself, now check for a thorough guide of Bios modification in order to reach 28 Mhash at 90 watt. There are some here but I don't remember the links, they are in this very section.




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October 12, 2017, 12:15:04 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2017, 12:59:14 PM by Vann
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The power consumption you can decide with MSI Afterburner at which rate you want it, also the temperature. If you have modified the Bios like you should it should do about 28 Mhash with 90 watt of energy consumed. The problem with Hynix memory is that even if you over clock the memory or core clock of the card with MSI Afterburner it will not have any effect on its actual hashrate. You have done the maximum yourself, now check for a thorough guide of Bios modification in order to reach 28 Mhash at 90 watt. There are some here but I don't remember the links, they are in this very section.

It depends on how the Bios was modded. Just modifying the memory straps to more aggressive timings doesn't change the memory frequency clock, which you need to adust with an overclocking tool. Once the best voltage and clock settings are found, you can program them in the Bios so you don't need to change them manually. Mattthev has a good basic guide on how to do that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954245.0

Just copying the lower frequency timing strap to the higher ones is not the right way to do a good Bios mod. I've had very good results using the PBE v1.6.2 'one click timing patch' which includes bundled performance straps for different types of memory. Most RX 580's also have two sets of memory straps from different brands and PBE will automatically detect and apply the correct performance strap for the memory type.

On my Nitro+ RX 580's with Hynix and Samsung dual timings, I get 30+ MH/s using a 1150 MHz core clock, 2100-2200 MHz memory clock, -96 mV undervolt and -15% power limit set in Afterburner. Since AMD changed the API, with the blockchain driver and Crimson driver version 17.7.2 and higher you need to use Afterburner v4.40 beta 16 or higher to be able to set the voltage and fan speed.

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html
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October 12, 2017, 11:46:46 PM
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thanks vann.

Is it normal for cards to reach 80C+ at stock bios and default clock/mem speed/voltage mining eth?

I think there is something wrong with the cooling system of this particular card.
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October 13, 2017, 12:05:02 AM
Last edit: October 13, 2017, 12:16:52 AM by Vann
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thanks vann.

Is it normal for cards to reach 80C+ at stock bios and default clock/mem speed/voltage mining eth?

I think there is something wrong with the cooling system of this particular card.

I don't have any Gigabyte cards, but the stock core clocks are definitely too high for mining. To optimally run the cards when mining you need to also change the core/memory clocks frequencies. That combined with an undervolt and power limit adjustment will increase the hash rate while lowering the power consumption, making the cards run more efficiently and at a lower temperature.
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October 13, 2017, 01:05:17 AM
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I don't have any Gigabyte cards, but the stock core clocks are definitely too high for mining. To optimally run the cards when mining you need to also change the core/memory clocks frequencies. That combined with an undervolt and power limit adjustment will increase the hash rate while lowering the power consumption, making the cards run more efficiently and at a lower temperature.

About lowering clocks and voltage, I use MSI AB beta 19.
I am able to adjust core and mem clock but unable to adjust core voltage.
I already tried all voltage related settings in the MSI AB settings page.
This is using stock bios with blockchain drivers on win10pro.

do you have experience running both nvidia and amd on a single win10 rig?
I currently have 9 pcie available on current rig:
asrock fatal1ty b250 gaming k4 mb(6 pcie) + 1pcie port to 4pcie USB port multiplier
I plan to add 1 more: 1pcie port to 4pcie USB port multiplier to get to 12pcie slots.
will fill it up with 8x gtx and 4x rx580.
do you think there is anything off with this plan?
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October 17, 2017, 11:32:29 AM
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This card is hopeless.

I UNINSTALLED MSI afterburner beta 19.
I then boot in safe mode and run DDU to remove AMD drivers and prepare for card installation.
To make sure it's not a power issue, I removed 2x1060 cards from the rig.
I installed Gigabyte Aorus rx580 8GB(hynix H5GC8H24MJ) and booted into win10.
I installed the blockchain driver(driver only, other options unchecked).
Next I installed the atikmdag patcher.
Next I rebooted and then installed MSI afterburner beta 19.

I checked MSI afterburner beta 19 and found that I can't modify core voltages.
I tried running claymore10 with: -mode 1 -platform 1 -benchmark 145 -tt -80 -tstop -79 -cclock 1100 -cvddc 950
result: 24Mh/s 100W(gpuz power draw) and temps rapidly climbing to 79C(terminating claymore10) even with fans at 80% and 950mV was IGNORED

I tried running claymore10 with: -mode 1 -platform 1 -benchmark 145 -tt -80 -tstop -79 -cclock 1000 -cvddc 950
result: 24Mh/s 90W(gpuz power draw) and temps rapidly climbing to 79C(terminating claymore10) even with fans at 80% and 950mV was also IGNORED

I tried running claymore10 with: -mode 1 -platform 1 -benchmark 145 -tt -80 -tstop -79 -cclock 900 -cvddc 950
result: 22Mh/s 85W(gpuz power draw) and temps rapidly climbing 79C(terminating claymore10) even with fans at 80% and 950mV was also IGNORED

I installed sapphire trixx to try to undervolt.

undervolt by: -156mV
I tried running claymore10 with: -mode 1 -platform 1 -benchmark 145 -tt -80 -tstop -79 -cclock 900
result: 22Mh/s 80W(gpuz power draw) and temps stable at 69C with fans at 80% and vcore:0.89mV

running higher core clock regardless of undervolt results in temps climbing to 79C(terminating claymore10)
anything at or above 85W (gpuz power draw) results in temps climbing to 79C(terminating claymore10)

this is all done with stock bios. help???!!! anyone?
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October 17, 2017, 04:24:40 PM
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This card is hopeless.

I UNINSTALLED MSI afterburner beta 19.
I then boot in safe mode and run DDU to remove AMD drivers and prepare for card installation.
To make sure it's not a power issue, I removed 2x1060 cards from the rig.
I installed Gigabyte Aorus rx580 8GB(hynix H5GC8H24MJ) and booted into win10.
I installed the blockchain driver(driver only, other options unchecked).
Next I installed the atikmdag patcher.
Next I rebooted and then installed MSI afterburner beta 19.

I checked MSI afterburner beta 19 and found that I can't modify core voltages.
I tried running claymore10 with: -mode 1 -platform 1 -benchmark 145 -tt -80 -tstop -79 -cclock 1100 -cvddc 950
result: 24Mh/s 100W(gpuz power draw) and temps rapidly climbing to 79C(terminating claymore10) even with fans at 80% and 950mV was IGNORED

I tried running claymore10 with: -mode 1 -platform 1 -benchmark 145 -tt -80 -tstop -79 -cclock 1000 -cvddc 950
result: 24Mh/s 90W(gpuz power draw) and temps rapidly climbing to 79C(terminating claymore10) even with fans at 80% and 950mV was also IGNORED

I tried running claymore10 with: -mode 1 -platform 1 -benchmark 145 -tt -80 -tstop -79 -cclock 900 -cvddc 950
result: 22Mh/s 85W(gpuz power draw) and temps rapidly climbing 79C(terminating claymore10) even with fans at 80% and 950mV was also IGNORED

I installed sapphire trixx to try to undervolt.

undervolt by: -156mV
I tried running claymore10 with: -mode 1 -platform 1 -benchmark 145 -tt -80 -tstop -79 -cclock 900
result: 22Mh/s 80W(gpuz power draw) and temps stable at 69C with fans at 80% and vcore:0.89mV

running higher core clock regardless of undervolt results in temps climbing to 79C(terminating claymore10)
anything at or above 85W (gpuz power draw) results in temps climbing to 79C(terminating claymore10)

this is all done with stock bios. help???!!! anyone?

i have the aorus 570's 4gb that have been also giving me headaches....so far i have them somewhat stable. The ones with ELPIDA are doing 29mh on ETH with 1140 and 1950-2000 the ones with hynix are doinf 28mh

I used PBE 1.6.2 windows 10 and blockchain drivers

NOT using afterburner...using claymore for my volatges and for the temp and fans

-cvddc 925 -mvddc 925 -cclock 1140 -mclock 2000,2000,2000,2000,1950,2000,2000 -estale 0 -gser 2 -tt 65 -fanmin 70       

im getting 199mh so far on 7 cards

power usage is way high thou.....cant figure out how to lower it...these little cards consume more power than my Sapphire 580's

hope some of this helps               

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October 19, 2017, 10:15:36 AM
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I still need help with my poorly performing Aorus rx580 8g hynix card

Here is gpuz info:


Original bios loaded into PBEv1.6.2:


Actual original bios file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8S6GVg5txr5ZngzLS1WeTM1dE0/view

Hardware: Intel G3930, asrock fatal1ty gaming k4, 4GB DDR4, 4x1060,2x1070, 1xpciex1-4xpciex1 expander
OS: fully patched win10 pro
drivers:latest amd block chain drivers+atikmdag patch and latest nvidia drivers.
utilities: MSI AB beta 19 and sapphire trixx

Current modified bios using one click timing patch and reduced memory voltage:


Current performance with claymore10:


current observed behavior:
when core clock is increased to 1000 and core voltage is offset down to 925mV(anything lower hangs)
hashrate becomes 27MH/s which is still below expected 29-30MH/s and temps become uncontrollable and eventually climbs to 79C even with fans at 80%

when mem clock is increased to 2040 at either 1000mv or 900mv, the system hangs as soon as mining starts.

I hope you guys can help me. Let me know if any details are still missing.






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October 25, 2017, 02:57:50 PM
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Solved!!! Was able to run at 30Mh/s but I wasn't comfortable with too many memory errors/hour.

Ethash:29Mh/s temp:66C power:85W errors/hour:27/3



started with original bios then with PBEv1.6.2
- applied one click timings
- upped max fan speed from 3000 to 3300
- upped the core voltage@300 from 750mv to 824mv
- changed core voltage@900 to 65282
- changed core voltage@1145 to 65282
- changed core voltage@1215 to 65283
- changed core voltage@1257 to 65283
- changed core voltage@1300 to 65283
- changed core voltage@1365 to 65283
- changed memory voltage@2000 to 1024

MSI AB setting: 1145core/2100mem/80% fan
Trixx setting: 1145core/2100mem/-108mV







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October 25, 2017, 03:50:34 PM
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I have the same indicators on my RX 580 GPU, 4 gb Hynix Sapphire. Only I use for extraction mode dual mining. 66 degrees at 70% fan it's a lot. You need to get to work. The temperature should not exceed 60 degrees. In the summer when the temperature outside is 35 degrees, I set the fans to 70% and the temperature of the chip at the same 54 degrees. Now on the street + 9 and the temperature of the chip 50 degrees the fan speed is 35%. If you do not use the dual mining the figures are even lower.
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October 25, 2017, 04:34:12 PM
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Lancusters

It's very hot in out country(PH) so ambient temps are quite high.
also my mining room is warm.
this is as much undervolt as I can manage.
anything lower hangs.
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