Want a BFL PayPal refund? PM me.

[colemab]

*I* do care why they bought it, cause for over a year people were quiet and now all of a sudden they are not.  You claim 20 days.  Ok, 20 days passed, no refund request.  100 days passed, no refund request.  200 days passed, no refund request.  300 days passed, no refund request.  Profitability goes into the toilet, REFUND ME!!!!!!!!!!!

You are asking the wrong question.  The correct question isn't why they bought but why they are refunding.  In my case, the refund doesn't have to do with profitability but fear of total loss due to bankruptcy of BFL.  BFL hasn't been jalp or LS for some weeks and now they have disabled the weekly comments.  They are also moderating like nazi's in their forum and have multiple members of management with a criminal background (which I learned sometime after I ordered).

On top of that they are refusing refunds and seem to be shipping out of order to avoid the charge backs.  The out of order shipping has yet to be proven but leads me to believe that financial difficulties are hitting BFL hard.  On top of all of this, they are likely to be shipping out raw chips before even completing shipping of all 2012 orders.

This wasn't the case when I ordered, so it is the changes at BFL that caused my charge back - not the rising difficulty.

[bcp19]

*I* do care why they bought it, cause for over a year people were quiet and now all of a sudden they are not.  You claim 20 days.  Ok, 20 days passed, no refund request.  100 days passed, no refund request.  200 days passed, no refund request.  300 days passed, no refund request.  Profitability goes into the toilet, REFUND ME!!!!!!!!!!!

You are asking the wrong question.  The correct question isn't why they bought but why they are refunding.  In my case, the refund doesn't have to do with profitability but fear of total loss due to bankruptcy of BFL.  BFL hasn't been jalp or LS for some weeks and now they have disabled the weekly comments.  They are also moderating like nazi's in their forum and have multiple members of management with a criminal background (which I learned sometime after I ordered).

On top of that they are refusing refunds and seem to be shipping out of order to avoid the charge backs.  The out of order shipping has yet to be proven but leads me to believe that financial difficulties are hitting BFL hard.  On top of all of this, they are likely to be shipping out raw chips before even completing shipping of all 2012 orders.

This wasn't the case when I ordered, so it is the changes at BFL that caused my charge back - not the rising difficulty.

It's estimated BFL has 3PH in orders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0).  That would be 2000 minirigs or $59.8million dollars using their lowest cost ratio unit.  I think your bankruptcy fears are groundless.

[Tripjammer]

Either BFL ran out of parts or they are going bankrupt. Either way they lost a bunch of customers for life. Nobody in their right mind will ever pre-order from them again.

[bcp19]

Either BFL ran out of parts or they are going bankrupt. Either way they lost a bunch of customers for life. Nobody in their right mind will ever pre-order from them again.

Yeah, you'd think, huh?

[Syke]

Using your scenario, 99.99% of all orders should have already been refunded.  I wonder why all those people haven't asked for a refund?

Many reasons. One is BFL is lying to them telling them they cannot receive a refund.

*I* do care why they bought it

Well, the law doesn't care. BFL failed to deliver, and customers are being illegally denied refunds. Why they request a refund is irrelevant. Feel free to read over the regulations.

http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus02-business-guide-mail-and-telephone-order-merchandise-rule

No where does it specify the customers thoughts to be a reason against refunds. Why do you want so badly to be the thought police here?

[PuertoLibre]

Folks, this is a refund request thread. OP has made it pretty clear he doesn't care too much about the reasons only that he can give people a way out via a refund.

So lets save the drama about whether people deserve a refund or not for some other thread.

I invite you all to come to the " BFL fucks us again" thread. thanks.

[bcp19]

Using your scenario, 99.99% of all orders should have already been refunded.  I wonder why all those people haven't asked for a refund?

Many reasons. One is BFL is lying to them telling them they cannot receive a refund.

*I* do care why they bought it

Well, the law doesn't care. BFL failed to deliver, and customers are being illegally denied refunds. Why they request a refund is irrelevant. Feel free to read over the regulations.

http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus02-business-guide-mail-and-telephone-order-merchandise-rule

No where does it specify the customers thoughts to be a reason against refunds. Why do you want so badly to be the thought police here?

Yup, I can see it now.

"Hello, I'd like to get a refund on an order that I never received"
"How long ago did you place the order?"
"About a year ago."
"Why did it take you so long to request a refund?"
"Well, I thought it was a good deal for the first 320 days, but in the last 40 days I changed my mind"
"....<click>"

You can't tell the truth or you'd never get a refund.  So what you are saying, is that it is OK to commit fraud just to get a refund.

[Syke]

Yup, I can see it now.

"Hello, I'd like to get a refund on an order that I never received"
"How long ago did you place the order?"
"About a year ago."
"Why did it take you so long to request a refund?"
"They kept promising delivery in two weeks."
"Ok, we'll help you get that refund."

FTFY.

[colemab]

Yup, I can see it now.

"Hello, I'd like to get a refund on an order that I never received"
"How long ago did you place the order?"
"About a year ago."
"Why did it take you so long to request a refund?"
"They kept promising delivery in two weeks."
"Ok, we'll help you get that refund."

FTFY.

^ This is almost exactly what happened with OP's method and in less than 12 hours via email on a Saturday might I add.

[ipxtreme]

If you've been unable to obtain a refund to your BFL PayPal order shoot me a message and I will help you.  I have helped out a few people already and all have received refunds within 24 hours.

I will not be reading/responding in this thread.  PM's only.  Yes, it works.

Thanks. I did what you said this past Monday and on Friday I had a full refund back in my PayPal account.

Works! A+

[gmaxwell]

This thread has gone hopeless OT. /Locked. (I've asked the OP to start a self moderated thread if he is still helping people with this)