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January 16, 2018, 05:07:03 AM
Last edit: January 16, 2018, 11:34:43 PM by salises
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Hey. Thank you for passing by, your opinion is much much appreciated. You're amazing!

I'm planning on doing the following in Europe:

Create a physical place of 24/7 gathering for gamers and gamblers where gamers can challenge each other and gamblers can bet on them (gamers too, but only on themselves). We provide HIGH END PC's and monitors for gaming, the gamers come up with their own periphericals (probably only mouse). It will be all automated meaning there's no need for employees besides security.

The bets can be placed only with crypto's, our own token (to reduce fees and be able to pay inside our place for other products) and in-game virtual items. NEVER with FIAT.

There's going to be a possibility to create bets online too, because every game is going to be streamed and is going to have a webcam aswell. Besides that, there's going to be online challenges to bet on.

The questions arise:

- Why are people going to bet on people who they don't know?
We plan to make it available for gamers who passed the online "training", as you could call, to be able participate in physical places. This gives the gamblers statistics to rely on.

- What are the incentives for gamers?
One of them is the possibility to make them known in eSports, connect with people in real life, invitations to our (or sponsored) tournaments and earn money from the bets (they get a percentage from the pool).

- What about the cheats?
There shouldn't be any cheats in offline gatherings, but everything is possible if they use a mouse to inject a cheat through drivers. For online, there will be an anti-cheat developed and have a lot of monitoring.

- Isn't too competitive in the industry?
There's no competition in real life for such kind of things, only if the existing gambling places catch up, also, the industry is growing rapidly. In my opinion, having the amount of experience I got in eSports - there's a lot of growth if you have good vision in mind and consider other factors other than just playing. It's just much more than that. Besides that, there's a lot of room for professionalism, getting shit done and good websites.

- What's up with the legal side?
We're looking into this. There's a big controversy because of using crypto's. If there's any lawyer here, feel free to hit me up. I think that there's a workaround given the availability to use in-game virtual items for gambling.

- How are you going to get money?
On bets transaction fee's, other products and sponsors.


Problems:


- Fairness: How to make the game as fair as possible so there's little to no penetration? Make the players anonymous?
We could use stastistics to prevent throwing. If the player has lower than normal statistics throughout the game, the betting is cancelled.

I'd like to know your opinions. Thanks!

Would you be interested in something like this?
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January 16, 2018, 06:54:04 AM
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January 16, 2018, 06:57:11 AM
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This mode does have a lot of real world competition.
There are indeed many such gamers/gamblers meetups in real world and there are plenty more online platforms that provides offline gaming-online gambling or online gaming-online gambling models.

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January 16, 2018, 07:08:21 AM
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I already have something like that in my city. Every thursday gamers gather in the internet cafe and make their own small tournament depositing some money to make a prize for the winner. People can't bet on them but I'm sure that such betting won't be popular. Also accepting only cryptos is a bad move. It is good if people wil desire to bet in  cryptos but there is no need to force them.

- Why are people going to bet on people who they don't know?

And they won't simply because they wont trust that the match is fair, especially on the local level. Thats gona kill all the fun.

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January 16, 2018, 07:28:59 AM
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it sounds interesting, but I think you should give something more interesting than you offer here. we know there are so many gambling industries available today, they race to be the best and try get the most users in the gambling industries.
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January 16, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
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This mode does have a lot of real world competition.
There are indeed many such gamers/gamblers meetups in real world and there are plenty more online platforms that provides offline gaming-online gambling or online gaming-online gambling models.
After some researching, I couldn't find any. Do you have any in mind?


I already have something like that in my city. Every thursday gamers gather in the internet cafe and make their own small tournament depositing some money to make a prize for the winner. People can't bet on them but I'm sure that such betting won't be popular. Also accepting only cryptos is a bad move. It is good if people wil desire to bet in  cryptos but there is no need to force them.

- Why are people going to bet on people who they don't know?

And they won't simply because they wont trust that the match is fair, especially on the local level. Thats gona kill all the fun.
My idea is to have it working 24/7 non stop - around 15-20 matches per game (60-70 matches per day). I chose crypto's because it's better legal wise but I have to research further.

I agree. I'm still thinking about how to make it fair. Do you have any suggestions?


it sounds interesting, but I think you should give something more interesting than you offer here. we know there are so many gambling industries available today, they race to be the best and try get the most users in the gambling industries.

Thank you. From what I've seen, there's nothing like this at the moment, besides some online eSports betting websites with tournaments. Maybe it's a sign that it's not viable.
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January 16, 2018, 11:16:40 PM
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Hey. Thank you for passing by, your opinion is much much appreciated. You're amazing!

I'm planning on doing the following in Europe:

Create a physical place of 24/7 gathering for gamers and gamblers where gamers can challenge each other and gamblers can bet on them (gamers too, but only on themselves). We provide HIGH END PC's and monitors for gaming, the gamers come up with their own periphericals (probably only mouse). It will be all automated meaning there's no need for employees besides security.


Why do you think that making the place 24/7 is going to be better than opening during normal hours? I just can´t picture lots of people feeling like playing eSports on a nearby venue Thrusday at 4 am if you know what I mean.

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January 16, 2018, 11:18:17 PM
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it sounds interesting, but I think you should give something more interesting than you offer here. we know there are so many gambling industries available today, they race to be the best and try get the most users in the gambling industries.
The gambling is much too large for the cryptocurrency to make it a new thing. The only thing different would be the payment system.

 
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January 16, 2018, 11:27:55 PM
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Hey. Thank you for passing by, your opinion is much much appreciated. You're amazing!

I'm planning on doing the following in Europe:

Create a physical place of 24/7 gathering for gamers and gamblers where gamers can challenge each other and gamblers can bet on them (gamers too, but only on themselves). We provide HIGH END PC's and monitors for gaming, the gamers come up with their own periphericals (probably only mouse). It will be all automated meaning there's no need for employees besides security.


Why do you think that making the place 24/7 is going to be better than opening during normal hours? I just can´t picture lots of people feeling like playing eSports on a nearby venue Thrusday at 4 am if you know what I mean.

Thank you for the response. I was a hardcore gamer back then, it's easy to go 24 hours straight playing and I know many people that do it aswell. Imagine if you can get money for playing!

it sounds interesting, but I think you should give something more interesting than you offer here. we know there are so many gambling industries available today, they race to be the best and try get the most users in the gambling industries.
The gambling is much too large for the cryptocurrency to make it a new thing. The only thing different would be the payment system.

Thank you for the response. I totally agree with you. Gambling would be just one branch in that project. There're few more things I'm interested in doing too!
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