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July 06, 2017, 11:54:48 AM
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I just noticed that coinzilla deactivated classic banners on my website (and most likely on most of other website) with extremely bad conversion.

I have very limited amount of banners on my website and I still I have provided top 728*90 banner. Usually they counted only 3000 impressions and still, they got around 14-21 clicks, I think that is not bad CTR at all and definitely not extremely bad as they say.

So I would like to know what would you expect? If you need really good results and 21 clicks from 3000 views it not good enough for you, than why do you run CPM network instead of CPC?

I think you just killed your ad network Smiley


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July 06, 2017, 12:05:01 PM
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I just noticed that coinzilla deactivated classic banners on my website (and most likely on most of other website) with extremely bad conversion.

I have very limited amount of banners on my website and I still I have provided top 728*90 banner. Usually they counted only 3000 impressions and still, they got around 14-21 clicks, I think that is not bad CTR at all and definitely not extremely bad as they say.

So I would like to know what would you expect? If you need really good results and 21 clicks from 3000 views it not good enough for you, than why do you run CPM network instead of CPC?

I think you just killed your ad network Smiley



Some ad space on my faucet are deactivated too. I hope they will reactive soon.
If you have good ctr, why don't contact their via email ?
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July 06, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
Last edit: July 06, 2017, 02:33:41 PM by corpsejunior
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I confirm! Shameful!

Poor CoinZilla, they blame faucets but they know without banners on faucets they won't survive a second.

Better a steady, stable and predictable A-Ads than a scammy CoinZilla.
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July 06, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
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Hello!

First of all, we are not a SCAM, this is not the meaning of the word "SCAM". When we will stop paying you will can to call us SCAM, until then you don't have that right.

Second, this measure was taken because our team has discovered a lot of websites where our banners where placed in areas of the website where users nearly can see them. Sometimes other parts of the website come over our banners and user could see only half of the banner. Other website where fully loaded with banners from a lot of networks and no one could see our banners.

Even the classic banners has been deactivated, floating banner and popunder script are still activated and you can earn money with it.

Please note the following things that are very important:

1. We talk every day with our advertisers and they are not happy with traffic from some websites and we now see why.
2. This measure was taken for the good of both sides: publishers and advertisers. Advertisers need to get quality traffic for their products and publishers need to get a lot of advertisements in order to be able to monetize their websites. Without advertisers, publishers will earn nothing.
3. You can always change the design of your website, arrange some elements on it to look better and after that to contact your account manager and to ask him for a re-evaluation. If you do this things and our banners are placed in parts of the websites where people can have a good experience with it then the classic banners will be activated again for you.

Please feel free to ask us everything.

Thanks!
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July 06, 2017, 02:32:53 PM
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Hello!

First of all, we are not a SCAM, this is not the meaning of the word "SCAM". When we will stop paying you will can to call us SCAM, until then you don't have that right.

Second, this measure was taken because our team has discovered a lot of websites where our banners where placed in areas of the website where users nearly can see them. Sometimes other parts of the website come over our banners and user could see only half of the banner. Other website where fully loaded with banners from a lot of networks and no one could see our banners.

Even the classic banners has been deactivated, floating banner and popunder script are still activated and you can earn money with it.

Please note the following things that are very important:

1. We talk every day with our advertisers and they are not happy with traffic from some websites and we now see why.
2. This measure was taken for the good of both sides: publishers and advertisers. Advertisers need to get quality traffic for their products and publishers need to get a lot of advertisements in order to be able to monetize their websites. Without advertisers, publishers will earn nothing.
3. You can always change the design of your website, arrange some elements on it to look better and after that to contact your account manager and to ask him for a re-evaluation. If you do this things and our banners are placed in parts of the websites where people can have a good experience with it then the classic banners will be activated again for you.

Please feel free to ask us everything.

Thanks!

First of all, you have a self-moderated official topic here, if nothing else that's very fishy ...

I can tell that you are lying because how I said in average you have got around 20 clicks daily and you have counted only 3000 banners views, I think this is pretty good performance. Even that you pay less than a-ads you had one of two Top banners.

I would understand if you would remove website with tons of banners, multiple pop ups, etc.

The reason why you are fishy and you will become spam soon or later is just that you have obviously removed also quality websites and you will soon or later stop paying users because you won't have enough impressions, enough traffic and not enough advertisers to keep this ad network alive.

If you would like to improve your website and deliver quality traffic, you would get rid of CPM model and you would increase rewards for CPC.

Tell me I am wrong about that and tell me what is wrong with my website http://www.mafiacoins.net where you had 728*90 banner at the top, then I will stop calling this website suspicious and fishy.



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July 06, 2017, 03:33:12 PM
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What I don't understand is why you are so resentful about our measures?
You could always contact us and to talk about this situation in private and probably we could activate the banners for you, after some discussions.
Telling bad things about Coinzilla will not get you anything. We are not just a ordinary network, we are a subsidiary of a registered advertising company.
I repeat again, this measures was taken in order to grow Coinzilla and to allow publishers to earn more by getting more and more advertisers.
Users can still have the classic banners but only after we discuss with each publishers in order to make sure that we don't get same problems like before.
Please calm down and we will solve this situation. We want that all of us to earn money but please note that some measures needs to be taken in order that everything to be alright.


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July 06, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
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how to see if a advertise spot is deaktivatet ?
is there any mail infromation ? Or how to know this Cheesy
my spots have a green point before it ?
i think on my account everythink is working as normal .


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July 06, 2017, 04:25:58 PM
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how to see if a advertise spot is deaktivatet ?
is there any mail infromation ? Or how to know this Cheesy
my spots have a green point before it ?
i think on my account everythink is working as normal .


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Yes, if your spots have a green dot means that they are activated.

Deactivated spots have a blue or red dot.
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July 06, 2017, 06:27:10 PM
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What I don't understand is why you are so resentful about our measures?
You could always contact us and to talk about this situation in private and probably we could activate the banners for you, after some discussions.
Telling bad things about Coinzilla will not get you anything. We are not just a ordinary network, we are a subsidiary of a registered advertising company.
I repeat again, this measures was taken in order to grow Coinzilla and to allow publishers to earn more by getting more and more advertisers.
Users can still have the classic banners but only after we discuss with each publishers in order to make sure that we don't get same problems like before.
Please calm down and we will solve this situation. We want that all of us to earn money but please note that some measures needs to be taken in order that everything to be alright.




To be honest, I don't really care that much. I think that ad spot I gave you is worth more than you were paying me, because from all ad networks I am using income from your ad network is lowest.

All I was saying is that you had a really good ad sport and still you have disabled it, so your "ban" key is really weird to me, but okay...



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July 07, 2017, 04:51:36 AM
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advertisers choose results/quality. when quality is ensured both parts are happy.
need strict rules and quality is guaranteed. advertisers will not be against to pay more in order to get results
and then more and more (advertisers & publishers) will choose coinzilla.

i'm not a expert and not teaching anyone but my opinion is that guys did a right decision in this competitive market.
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July 07, 2017, 07:04:50 AM
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What I don't understand is why you are so resentful about our measures?
You could always contact us and to talk about this situation in private and probably we could activate the banners for you, after some discussions.
Telling bad things about Coinzilla will not get you anything. We are not just a ordinary network, we are a subsidiary of a registered advertising company.
I repeat again, this measures was taken in order to grow Coinzilla and to allow publishers to earn more by getting more and more advertisers.
Users can still have the classic banners but only after we discuss with each publishers in order to make sure that we don't get same problems like before.
Please calm down and we will solve this situation. We want that all of us to earn money but please note that some measures needs to be taken in order that everything to be alright.

To be honest, I don't really care that much. I think that ad spot I gave you is worth more than you were paying me, because from all ad networks I am using income from your ad network is lowest.

All I was saying is that you had a really good ad sport and still you have disabled it, so your "ban" key is really weird to me, but okay...


Please contact your account manager and talk to him in order to activate your spot. Maybe it was a misunderstanding from our side if you say that your website is very good.

New great things and updates are coming to coinzilla in following weeks. Wink
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July 08, 2017, 09:42:57 AM
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Alright, here's how I see it.

My ad places on 3 websites were giving an average of 55 daily clicks for every 5000 impressions and they all got deactivated without a reasonably timed notice, not even an email; I had to find that myself when I saw that all the banners were showing "Advertise here" message and zero revenue.

This happens after their system had a bug for about 4 days not counting impressions on any popunder, and after they promised a "compensation" for publishers (which I have yet to see after almost a week):
Anyone else noticed there have been no popup impressions in the last few days?
Hi,
We are aware of this problem but it we will fix it tomorrow as our coder just went thru an operation this morning and needs to rest for 1 day before getting back to work.
All publishers will be compensated for this problem.
Regards.

Although I didn't like the way they proceeded with the deactivation of almost every publisher's banner, I still decided to get in touch with their support offering to show ONE banner on each of my websites and giving them screenshots of the possible placement (on really visible places) but apparently that wasn't enough for their requirements and the reply I got was to replace other banners (giving an average of 0,0003 cpm) with theirs (roughly paying 0,00008cpm).

My final thought:
Coinzilla, I understand you want to set higher standards for your advertisers, but your pay rates are just not competitive enough to ask to get HIGH visibility places.
The market offers many different choices for a publisher with decent traffic


To be honest, I don't really care that much. I think that ad spot I gave you is worth more than you were paying me, because from all ad networks I am using income from your ad network is lowest.

All I was saying is that you had a really good ad sport and still you have disabled it, so your "ban" key is really weird to me, but okay...
Couldn't agree more on this, I can confirm they pay about 1/3 of other advertising platforms when it comes to banner advertising.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the improvements they're talking about will be, and I might still consider using their service if they offer something more without being overly picky.

Also coinzilla, I really hope for you that this move will work out and it won't drag you down too much.
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May 13, 2018, 02:01:23 PM
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Hello!

First of all, we are not a SCAM, this is not the meaning of the word "SCAM". When we will stop paying you will can to call us SCAM, until then you don't have that right.

Second, this measure was taken because our team has discovered a lot of websites where our banners where placed in areas of the website where users nearly can see them. Sometimes other parts of the website come over our banners and user could see only half of the banner. Other website where fully loaded with banners from a lot of networks and no one could see our banners.

Even the classic banners has been deactivated, floating banner and popunder script are still activated and you can earn money with it.

Please note the following things that are very important:

1. We talk every day with our advertisers and they are not happy with traffic from some websites and we now see why.
2. This measure was taken for the good of both sides: publishers and advertisers. Advertisers need to get quality traffic for their products and publishers need to get a lot of advertisements in order to be able to monetize their websites. Without advertisers, publishers will earn nothing.
3. You can always change the design of your website, arrange some elements on it to look better and after that to contact your account manager and to ask him for a re-evaluation. If you do this things and our banners are placed in parts of the websites where people can have a good experience with it then the classic banners will be activated again for you.

Please feel free to ask us everything.

Thanks!

First of all, you have a self-moderated official topic here, if nothing else that's very fishy ...

I can tell that you are lying because how I said in average you have got around 20 clicks daily and you have counted only 3000 banners views, I think this is pretty good performance. Even that you pay less than a-ads you had one of two Top banners.

I would understand if you would remove website with tons of banners, multiple pop ups, etc.

The reason why you are fishy and you will become spam soon or later is just that you have obviously removed also quality websites and you will soon or later stop paying users because you won't have enough impressions, enough traffic and not enough advertisers to keep this ad network alive.

If you would like to improve your website and deliver quality traffic, you would get rid of CPM model and you would increase rewards for CPC.

Tell me I am wrong about that and tell me what is wrong with my website http://www.mafiacoins.net where you had 728*90 banner at the top, then I will stop calling this website suspicious and fishy.






Dude what is fishy is your website.  Or Phishy I should say.. I see why coinzilla removed the banner. I see they added it back but they need to remove it again.  When I went to the site, my malware detector instantly went off and said this site contains malware as can be seen by this screenshot https://www.screencast.com/t/o6N4dUppo

Beyond the malware which is bad enough to get the site banned, its a poorly designed website that looks clearly designed for nothing more than a banner ad holder.  So coinzilla if you are listening I am considering using your service for my clients and this is definitely not a site that I would want their ads placed on. 
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