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March 06, 2018, 03:31:56 PM
Last edit: March 06, 2018, 03:58:59 PM by hjdrt7e6g
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You've either A) Paid to whitelist yourself or B) have found a clear connection and are free to post normally so what's your issue? If you don't want to pay the evil fee then find a connection that isn't proxybanned. The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum. Stop crying about it and spamming the same message over and over isn't going to do you any favours and just lead to even more connections being banned.  

If i find clear IP, and register account, and then in future i catch one of blacklisted IP, will i get banned again?
And what if someone "evil" will in future registered with the same IP like my new account, this make me banned?

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The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum.
But it will not stop them from abusing at all. They can use more of clear IP's. To stop bots need to make registration more difficult, like Captcha do this.
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March 06, 2018, 03:56:12 PM
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You've either A) Paid to whitelist yourself or B) have found a clear connection and are free to post normally so what's your issue? If you don't want to pay the evil fee then find a connection that isn't proxybanned. The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum. Stop crying about it and spamming the same message over and over isn't going to do you any favours and just lead to even more connections being banned.  

If i find clear IP, and register account, and then in future i catch one of blacklisted IP, will i get banned again?
And what if someone "evil" will in future registered with the same IP like my new account, this make me banned?

You are always in trouble while using a VPN or a cheap proxy. These are shared by multiple users and thus if you use an I.P that another person used to spam on this forum, you will get banned again. Solution to this problem is buy a dedicated proxy for this purpose. They will assign one IP exclusively to you and thus you will always be safe.

This will cost you much more in comparison to the shared proxies but it is the only solution as you cannot use real IP due to government restrictions.

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March 06, 2018, 04:02:53 PM
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You've either A) Paid to whitelist yourself or B) have found a clear connection and are free to post normally so what's your issue? If you don't want to pay the evil fee then find a connection that isn't proxybanned. The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum. Stop crying about it and spamming the same message over and over isn't going to do you any favours and just lead to even more connections being banned.  

If i find clear IP, and register account, and then in future i catch one of blacklisted IP, will i get banned again?
And what if someone "evil" will in future registered with the same IP like my new account, this make me banned?

No. It's just when you sign up. You can switch to tor or any other proxy connection once you've signed up. You or the connection will only be banned if you break the rules.

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The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum.
But it will not stop them from abusing at all. They can use more of clear IP's. To stop bots need to make registration more difficult, like Captcha do this.

And if they abuse them ones then those connections will also be banned.

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March 06, 2018, 06:57:01 PM
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It's funny it was thesame with this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3075530.0

Maybe this newbies knows each other? the thread text style are nearly thesame and they are both complaining about paying because of evilpoints. But this one is much more aggresive.
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March 06, 2018, 07:36:55 PM
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It's funny it was thesame with this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3075530.0

Maybe this newbies knows each other? the thread text style are nearly thesame and they are both complaining about paying because of evilpoints. But this one is much more aggresive.

Haha it's the same guy. What now OP? Are you going to flood the forum with new accounts demanding the same thing to make it look like there's more people like like you? Are you going to make yourself an army of supporters? Cheesy


I was in my home, but i can't use my real IP because of government restrictions. So i always use proxie, vpn etc. And that means i always must pay to administration of this forum. And even so, i can get banned for no reason if someone with same IP will be not welcome here.

Your claims are ridiculous! Is it the fault of bitcointalk that you were restricted by your government and instead of buying yourself a proxy address you chose a free one that aws previously abused? You're barking up the wrong tree.

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March 06, 2018, 08:13:51 PM
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No cents, no feeling - I'm afraid the forum doesn't feel for you. Smiley

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March 07, 2018, 12:25:19 AM
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It's funny it was thesame with this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3075530.0

Maybe this newbies knows each other? the thread text style are nearly thesame and they are both complaining about paying because of evilpoints. But this one is much more aggresive.

Haha it's the same guy. What now OP?
Yes and no. Yes, full of silly hate. No, i don't feel anymore like that. It was first harvest of my anger-seed words. At the time when I was creating the topic, I thought that it was almost immediately deleted, so I did not wait, but created a new one. To attract attention.
I feel sorry for insulting administration and moderators. But i still disagree with asking "fee" from newbies. There should be alternate method, should be choise how to add in white-list person, which registered from banned IP. For example:
Some special button that can be clicked after the day after registration, called something like "please, let me join to forum without fee". Then, wait within day and if the number of such requests from this IP is not much for this time (to make sure that this is not a bot) send to user e-mail with verification code, which user must enter with virtual keyboard (make entry difficult for bots) from his user-profile page. And this procedure permits posting only to this person, not everyone from this IP.
Just an example, this can be done in another way.

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Your claims are ridiculous! Is it the fault of bitcointalk that you were restricted by your government and instead of buying yourself a proxy address you chose a free one that aws previously abused? You're barking up the wrong tree.
It is, but it's not my fault too, that the internet became unfree. I see that it's fault of system, that built by people.

Anyway i tryed the way, which advice me hilariousetc. Thank you, it helps, but breaks rule #25 =). I registered new account from new clear IP and seems forum don't block me even if i log in from "bad" proxie IP (like browsec extension for chrome). I'll start from scratch acquaintance with forum. And, please, forgive me and delete this and other one my topics. This account may be deleted as well, seems i'll never use it again.
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March 07, 2018, 12:59:39 AM
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If you registered here and you were immediately banned, take that as an omen from a higher power that you don't belong here.  We're probably being relieved of a serious eyesore by your absence.  I wish more fools would get banned here. 

Ah, if I only had that power for a day, think of the wonderful things that could be accomplished.  lol

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