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March 06, 2018, 01:54:35 PM
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When i first time registered on this forum i saw that i have BANNED! And they are DEMAND to ME TO PAY THEM BITCOINS!! I dont care if someone was evil with same IP, i have nothing to do with him, but now i'am evil too!!! I will not pay even a cent to ##########!! Even if their ###########(moderators) always delete my posts i still will not pay!
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March 06, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
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Did you pay for this account? Smiley

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March 06, 2018, 02:01:42 PM
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Did you pay for this account? Smiley

i think he is talking about "Units of Evil"!
some IP addresses (i think Tor or possibly proxies and VPNs) have been used in the past to do something "evil" on the forum so now they are in a black list and if someone signs up with them they are asked to pay a fee based on how "evil" that IP was.

OP can simply use another proxy or TOR exit,... to sign up.

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March 06, 2018, 02:02:36 PM
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ofc i'am not! just made new with new ip

i'm just wanted to start like newbie, but now it's impossible

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i think he is talking about "Units of Evil"!
some IP addresses (i think Tor or possibly proxies and VPNs) have been used in the past to do something "evil" on the forum so now they are in a black list and if someone signs up with them they are asked to pay a fee based on how "evil" that IP was.

yes, i'am just want to say: it's not right way to deal with "evil"
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March 06, 2018, 02:04:19 PM
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if someone used your IP address, you can use another one IP address using VPN or go to your friend's house for registering an account.
For deleted post, i think moderators would not delete yours if your post based on the topic
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March 06, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
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if someone used your IP address, you can use another one IP address using VPN or go to your friend's house for registering an account.
For deleted post, i think moderators would not delete yours if your post based on the topic

ofc i can use as many proxies as i want, but will it make me less evil or more? when you see that someone made something bad and now you must pay for that, how you think is that fair?
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March 06, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
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this was get me lol if you were banned and dont have rank you can join again by using another ip
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March 06, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
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When i first time registered on this forum i saw that i have BANNED! And they are DEMAND to ME TO PAY THEM BITCOINS!! I dont care if someone was evil with same IP, i have nothing to do with him, but now i'am evil too!!! I will not pay even a cent to fucking pigs(administration)!! Even if their well-trained monkeys(moderators) always delete my posts i still will not pay!

You better watch the language for the admin and moderators. I do not think that this account will even survive long with this attitude. If you think this way about the forum, why are you registering on a forum developed and managed by them.

Regarding your posts getting deleted, that will continue in future as well if you are not following the forum rules. There should be some sort of permanent ban for people like you and future registrations should also be restricted.

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March 06, 2018, 02:28:47 PM
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This is the first time I heard about paying for your account.  Did not know that there are instances like this.  Hopefully, the admin will be able to resolve this issue.

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March 06, 2018, 02:29:33 PM
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this was get me lol if you were banned and dont have rank you can join again by using another ip
that point, where i must pay if i want to talk on free forum make me very sad and mad, i cant join normally
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March 06, 2018, 02:36:58 PM
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When i first time registered on this forum i saw that i have BANNED! And they are DEMAND to ME TO PAY THEM BITCOINS!! I dont care if someone was evil with same IP, i have nothing to do with him, but now i'am evil too!!! I will not pay even a cent to fucking pigs(administration)!! Even if their well-trained monkeys(moderators) always delete my posts i still will not pay!


I think you must pay and dont talk too much bad words to moderator they doing this as they job as a moderator . not for personal its only for their job. if you want to get a respect. respect other too.
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March 06, 2018, 02:42:57 PM
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Wherever you create a Btt account it remains the same there is a fee to be paid, in fact the IP is public and it is impossible for everyone to have each IP. Looks like you're immature and still a kid what's the harm in spending a little money for the sake of continuity and stability Forum Btt.
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March 06, 2018, 02:51:49 PM
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Wherever you create a Btt account it remains the same there is a fee to be paid, in fact the IP is public and it is impossible for everyone to have each IP. Looks like you're immature and still a kid what's the harm in spending a little money for the sake of continuity and stability Forum Btt.
So why don't write it in rules - every account must provide some cash to allow posting here. Why they choose me to pay? it's because of my "bad" IP? I dont choosed this IP, it's auto-assigned. Maybe you're right, but it's my principle - i will not pay to extortionists.
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March 06, 2018, 02:52:54 PM
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When i first time registered on this forum i saw that i have BANNED! And they are DEMAND to ME TO PAY THEM BITCOINS!! I dont care if someone was evil with same IP, i have nothing to do with him, but now i'am evil too!!! I will not pay even a cent to ##########!! Even if their ###########(moderators) always delete my posts i still will not pay!

well we had a same problem here in my country they demand too to pay first before you can post .enable to post and ip is using by the evil  to my friend  after he created an account in this forum..
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March 06, 2018, 03:03:35 PM
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Wherever you create a Btt account it remains the same there is a fee to be paid, in fact the IP is public and it is impossible for everyone to have each IP. Looks like you're immature and still a kid what's the harm in spending a little money for the sake of continuity and stability Forum Btt.
So why don't write it in rules - every account must provide some cash to allow posting here. Why they choose me to pay? it's because of my "bad" IP? I dont choosed this IP, it's auto-assigned. Maybe you're right, but it's my principle - i will not pay to extortionists.
That rule doesn't apply to everyone. one has to pay fee only when the IP has been abused here, most of the times abused IP are associated with free VPNs or TOR.

This message is shown when one registers for a new account.

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If you register using an IP address that was previously abused on this forum, then you may be required to pay a small registration fee before you are able to post. If this is necessary, you will be informed after you login using your new account. Most people do not need to pay a fee.
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March 06, 2018, 03:05:50 PM
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well we had a same problem here in my country they demand too to pay first before you can post .enable to post and ip is using by the evil  to my friend  after he created an account in this forum..

Thanks! I'am not alone at least. It's just not right making pay for what you don't did. Even if they say that for the sake of good things.
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March 06, 2018, 03:06:43 PM
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When i first time registered on this forum i saw that i have BANNED! And they are DEMAND to ME TO PAY THEM BITCOINS!! I dont care if someone was evil with same IP, i have nothing to do with him, but now i'am evil too!!! I will not pay even a cent to ##########!! Even if their ###########(moderators) always delete my posts i still will not pay!
I think the problem was that as at the time you chose a username, someone else who was banned had it. So, invariably the forum would think you wanted to reactivate it or something. And as such placed a stiff payment penalty on it. But with another username, you just got registered - without any payment (as is the practice here except you are go for the Copper Membership). This also happened to someone I introduced to this forum late last year but he got it later without paying a dime.

As for your posts getting deleted by mods, it could mean you were posting irrelevant replies to topics or in mega or duplicated threads . You may want to stop the above to enable your posts stand and count.

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March 06, 2018, 03:11:07 PM
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Most likely you were in a cafe or in another public place, where there is a free Wi-Fi. Of course the majority of such IP address are blocked. And I do not advise you to use them without means of protection, because through such a Wi-Fi it is very easy to steal all your personal passwords and accesses. Use your home IP address. It is unlikely that it will be blocked too.

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March 06, 2018, 03:19:54 PM
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Most likely you were in a cafe or in another public place, where there is a free Wi-Fi. Of course the majority of such IP address are blocked. And I do not advise you to use them without means of protection, because through such a Wi-Fi it is very easy to steal all your personal passwords and accesses. Use your home IP address. It is unlikely that it will be blocked too.

I was in my home, but i can't use my real IP because of government restrictions. So i always use proxie, vpn etc. And that means i always must pay to administration of this forum. And even so, i can get banned for no reason if someone with same IP will be not welcome here.
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March 06, 2018, 03:24:53 PM
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You've either A) Paid to whitelist yourself or B) have found a clear connection and are free to post normally so what's your issue? If you don't want to pay the evil fee then find a connection that isn't proxybanned. The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum. Stop crying about it and spamming the same message over and over isn't going to do you any favours and just lead to even more connections being banned.  

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March 06, 2018, 03:31:56 PM
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You've either A) Paid to whitelist yourself or B) have found a clear connection and are free to post normally so what's your issue? If you don't want to pay the evil fee then find a connection that isn't proxybanned. The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum. Stop crying about it and spamming the same message over and over isn't going to do you any favours and just lead to even more connections being banned.  

If i find clear IP, and register account, and then in future i catch one of blacklisted IP, will i get banned again?
And what if someone "evil" will in future registered with the same IP like my new account, this make me banned?

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The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum.
But it will not stop them from abusing at all. They can use more of clear IP's. To stop bots need to make registration more difficult, like Captcha do this.
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You've either A) Paid to whitelist yourself or B) have found a clear connection and are free to post normally so what's your issue? If you don't want to pay the evil fee then find a connection that isn't proxybanned. The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum. Stop crying about it and spamming the same message over and over isn't going to do you any favours and just lead to even more connections being banned.  

If i find clear IP, and register account, and then in future i catch one of blacklisted IP, will i get banned again?
And what if someone "evil" will in future registered with the same IP like my new account, this make me banned?

You are always in trouble while using a VPN or a cheap proxy. These are shared by multiple users and thus if you use an I.P that another person used to spam on this forum, you will get banned again. Solution to this problem is buy a dedicated proxy for this purpose. They will assign one IP exclusively to you and thus you will always be safe.

This will cost you much more in comparison to the shared proxies but it is the only solution as you cannot use real IP due to government restrictions.

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March 06, 2018, 04:02:53 PM
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You've either A) Paid to whitelist yourself or B) have found a clear connection and are free to post normally so what's your issue? If you don't want to pay the evil fee then find a connection that isn't proxybanned. The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum. Stop crying about it and spamming the same message over and over isn't going to do you any favours and just lead to even more connections being banned.  

If i find clear IP, and register account, and then in future i catch one of blacklisted IP, will i get banned again?
And what if someone "evil" will in future registered with the same IP like my new account, this make me banned?

No. It's just when you sign up. You can switch to tor or any other proxy connection once you've signed up. You or the connection will only be banned if you break the rules.

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The fee is to stop bots and serial ban evaders from just reusing the same connection(s) over and over to abuse the forum.
But it will not stop them from abusing at all. They can use more of clear IP's. To stop bots need to make registration more difficult, like Captcha do this.

And if they abuse them ones then those connections will also be banned.

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March 06, 2018, 06:57:01 PM
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It's funny it was thesame with this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3075530.0

Maybe this newbies knows each other? the thread text style are nearly thesame and they are both complaining about paying because of evilpoints. But this one is much more aggresive.
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It's funny it was thesame with this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3075530.0

Maybe this newbies knows each other? the thread text style are nearly thesame and they are both complaining about paying because of evilpoints. But this one is much more aggresive.

Haha it's the same guy. What now OP? Are you going to flood the forum with new accounts demanding the same thing to make it look like there's more people like like you? Are you going to make yourself an army of supporters? Cheesy


I was in my home, but i can't use my real IP because of government restrictions. So i always use proxie, vpn etc. And that means i always must pay to administration of this forum. And even so, i can get banned for no reason if someone with same IP will be not welcome here.

Your claims are ridiculous! Is it the fault of bitcointalk that you were restricted by your government and instead of buying yourself a proxy address you chose a free one that aws previously abused? You're barking up the wrong tree.

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March 06, 2018, 08:13:51 PM
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No cents, no feeling - I'm afraid the forum doesn't feel for you. Smiley

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It's funny it was thesame with this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3075530.0

Maybe this newbies knows each other? the thread text style are nearly thesame and they are both complaining about paying because of evilpoints. But this one is much more aggresive.

Haha it's the same guy. What now OP?
Yes and no. Yes, full of silly hate. No, i don't feel anymore like that. It was first harvest of my anger-seed words. At the time when I was creating the topic, I thought that it was almost immediately deleted, so I did not wait, but created a new one. To attract attention.
I feel sorry for insulting administration and moderators. But i still disagree with asking "fee" from newbies. There should be alternate method, should be choise how to add in white-list person, which registered from banned IP. For example:
Some special button that can be clicked after the day after registration, called something like "please, let me join to forum without fee". Then, wait within day and if the number of such requests from this IP is not much for this time (to make sure that this is not a bot) send to user e-mail with verification code, which user must enter with virtual keyboard (make entry difficult for bots) from his user-profile page. And this procedure permits posting only to this person, not everyone from this IP.
Just an example, this can be done in another way.

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Your claims are ridiculous! Is it the fault of bitcointalk that you were restricted by your government and instead of buying yourself a proxy address you chose a free one that aws previously abused? You're barking up the wrong tree.
It is, but it's not my fault too, that the internet became unfree. I see that it's fault of system, that built by people.

Anyway i tryed the way, which advice me hilariousetc. Thank you, it helps, but breaks rule #25 =). I registered new account from new clear IP and seems forum don't block me even if i log in from "bad" proxie IP (like browsec extension for chrome). I'll start from scratch acquaintance with forum. And, please, forgive me and delete this and other one my topics. This account may be deleted as well, seems i'll never use it again.
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March 07, 2018, 12:59:39 AM
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If you registered here and you were immediately banned, take that as an omen from a higher power that you don't belong here.  We're probably being relieved of a serious eyesore by your absence.  I wish more fools would get banned here. 

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