Betcoin has been attempting to discredit me for a while now by making false or only partially true claims made either here or more recently on their own forums and chat room - a community that has no rules and is censored without explanation.
They ignore 95% of my responses in this forum and ban me on their own site, so I will use this thread to respond each of their accusations. Some of their claims are true or partially true, but more often they are malicious lies. It's also obvious they are paying users to attack me.
First we have an example of Betcoin paying a player to literally make up a story about me based on nothing but lies.
Twitchyseal Offered Me Money on Instagram to Lie About BetcoinLink:
https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-offered-me-money-instagram-lie-about-betcoinArchived:
https://archive.is/yDEjyWhat really happened:
I noticed a new player "ajundftd" in Betcoin Chat getting treated like shit ( not unusual ) It wasn't clear if he was innocent or not, but Betcoin Andrew was calling him a liar and trolling him.
Here's some of the transcript:
https://archive.is/B5Mle <==archive of betcoins archive
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ajundftd: one sitting*
5:11pmajundftd: not 10k in sitting
5:11pmajundftd: 5k bets back to back
5:11pmantonlevay: i keep asking you how you bet 10k chips and you dont answer
5:11pmajundftd: was waiting
5:11pmajundftd: figured it was refunded
5:10pmajundftd: then refresh hand two wasn't even touched
5:10pmantonlevay: asince high limit is 2500 max
5:10pmantonlevay: and since you say you bet 10k chips you had to of played 2 hands and dbled them in high limit
5:10pmajundftd: said "server disconnection"
5:10pmajundftd: when I hit "hit" on the first hand it froze
5:10pmantonlevay: well again, if it is bj and you press hit stand or double, it plays it
5:10pmajundftd: i even asked them to look back at the hands through videos because I can't
5:09pmajundftd: anton that's exactly what I was expecting to happen
5:09pmajundftd: and you guys don't even address the fact that I am seeing something totally opposite
ajundftd: Why do I have a 14 screenshots showing error message on the 13th
5:08pmajundftd: Your software provider said he didn't have a problem after the 12th
5:08pmajundftd: So I don't come here and get called a cheater
5:08pmajundftd: As best as possible
5:07pmBetcoin Andrew: I know you are not.
5:07pmajundftd: I'm trying to document things
5:07pmajundftd: I'm not even stating facts andrew
5:07pmBetcoin Andrew: You can't think you are the only one who plays big blackjack hands.
5:07pmBetcoin Andrew: We just state facts ajun, some of our newer players try to abuse.
5:07pmantonlevay: or you had 2 hands where you dbled?
5:07pmmichigan1: https://twitter.com/zizzle77/status/754056929475899393
5:07pmmichigan1: Everyone retweet this just once and we will get more peeps to the daily :)
5:07pmajundftd: confirm that I lied about the timing of the vidoes?
5:07pmfallenhigh: ill even comment on thread because 20000 is better the 666$ any day
5:07pmBetcoin Andrew: Will you confirm that or still no?
5:07pmajundftd: you're reaching for something when I have evidence your software is going down on me when i'm placing 10k bets
5:06pmantonlevay: on high limit max is 2500
5:06pmantonlevay: where you bet 10k chips?
5:06pmajundftd: then why do i have a screenshot showing an error on the 13th
5:06pmBetcoin Andrew: You certainly lied about when you shot the videos.
That kept going on for a couple hours, but obviously that guy was pissed off and not getting anywhere. So, I created a new account with the sole intention of telling him to come here to Bitcointalk and create a post. Otherwise they would likely do nothing for him.
(My account was instantly banned as usual and the comment deleted from the archive, but he he was able to read the comment firs)
Shortly after, Andrew came back to the chat room and told him to to come to private support chat.
Note time stamps:
An hour later, he posts his thread about me offering him money to lie and says only nice things about Betcoin from then on.
Had to share my story regarding Twitchyseal and the level of his trolling. Twitchyseal contacted me on Instagram and offered me money to lie about Betcoin and their treatment of me. I, of course refused, because despite a few issues that were fixed promptly, enjoy Betcoin and look forward to playing here. This level of trolling is unacceptable. Look out for him. He is willing to do anything to put Betcoin's name in harms way. He has many usernames.
He also created an account here and posted:
Had to share my story regarding Twitchyseal and the level of his trolling. Twitchyseal contacted me on Instagram and offered me money to lie about Betcoin and their treatment of me. I, of course refused, because despite a few issues that were fixed promptly, enjoy Betcoin and look forward to playing here. This level of trolling is unacceptable. Look out for him. He is willing to do anything to put BetCoin's name in harms way. He has many usernames.
This one involves a Betcoin affiliate (that receives higher commission than the top tier they advertise/essentially an employee)
(Xiao = harryjr lolxiao = me)
Images:
Xiao has yet to leave any neg trust for me, and i think he only posted this because he thought I wouldn't see it or something?
Shortly after he sent this pm to all his signups which is mostly bullshit:
Hi Members of the BetcoinRakeback.com 40-150% extra rakeback program. Thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0First of all I'd like to thank all of you for taking advantage of this profitable program. It has allowed many of you to consistently profit in the poker room.
However, as some of you may know, user 'TwitchySeal' aka 'OHYEAH' has been determined to libel this RB service. Some of you have already expressed your outrage towards his behavior/spam in my thread and have complained to me about him. Basically, he has a vendetta against Betcoin management and he's willing to attack anyone associated with Betcoin from affiliates to players. A lot of times his intentions may seem good and they are (when he fairly calls out sites for irrational decisions), but he has ulterior motives which are ego-driven. He uses alternate accounts and has co-conspirators to accomplish his goals. And furthermore, he is a highly confrontational and impatient person. His behavior in our service thread confuses newcomers and makes them afraid to take advantage of this program, and they end up playing else where paying a lot higher rake. Betcoin Poker is a blossoming poker environment with a community where both players and live support can police the tables nearly 24/7 and can call out questionable plays such as collusion or bots in the forums/chat; no other poker establishment has this.
Though I don't always agree with the decisions and viewpoints of Betcoin management, I can assure you that they are not 'scammers.' Scammers cannot get this far in the gaming world and have the connections they have (WPN software/membership, Casino providers, Sportsbook providers). Having spoken to them many times I know they are well-funded. In fact they own several other small licensed online gaming establishments but for anonymity's sake haven't divulged the exact ownership.
I can assure you they're goal is creating a good poker room, but they were very inexperienced with online poker management and have been steadily learning. I am asking you as your loyal affiliate if you could please give some feedback in my thread to let new users know how rewarding this program can be, so that this program can grow, and in turn it will help the poker room grow so we could all reap the rewards.
Sincerely,
Xiao
