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[DarkDays]

Incorrect.  Another assumption that you were 100% sure about that you got wrong.  Please man, I really don't have time for your antics.  I've got another job besides managing all my players' RB.

So you admit that you have a special relationship with them where you get paid a different amount than all other affiliates?  Something we said and you denied until now.

Pretty sure he's admitted this before.  But when I asked him to for the details he said something like "no, and I won't give you my the number on my passport either"

Not sure if he's really as dumb as he's acting with the whole "Im just affiliate for poker, Betcoin:Government Xiao:Library/Community Center" argument.  Or even better "I'm just level 1 affiliate generating under 1btc/month, poor me" (meanwhile he creates website and sig spamcaign focused on betcoin only.  No other site.  Just betcoin.
Also, he thinks comic sans makes people relax.

Oh ok, sorry for rehashing the old news.  It's so hard to keep up with all the lies sometimes!

I think it's important to point out that Xiao has a special, insider relationship with Betcoin.  He just admitted it himself!  And if he wanted to help out his loyal players, he could exert his influence on them to encourage them to do the right thing.  Like with the overraking (which he didn't do) and now with this Betsoft scam issue. 

I agree that he's probably not as dumb as he plays, and he's probably not that bad of a guy, it's likely he's just in a little over his head.  We should all encourage him to do the right thing with situations like this because in the end it's actually going to make him MORE money.

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[luismelo4]

Just to say that Xiao is a nice affiliate and that I never had any problems neither my sub affiliate (He rakes high values not tiny tiny low as this loosers posting).

Xiao pays the right amount on time and always answers very quickly to any doubt so I dont understand this losers that keep posting.

And yes I check if the value of rake returned is right and it is.

Betcoin pays very fast and is a nice place to play.

[Xiaoxiao]

Few things to note: the BBJ is nearing 30 bitcoins or ~$20,000.  The it's pretty tough to hit; the terms are quad jacks must lose to a higher hand, but it'll happen sooner or later.  I've seen worse beats than that on several occasions in live let alone online.

I still have some players asking why the warning to time out is so short.  I agree, however, there is a way to resolve that issue.

Click the settings button:





Then select Auto Engage Time Bank:

[TwitchySeal]

A few things to note:

Congrats to Betcoin for the cardschat #3 spot on the blacklist  for July 2016.  Not an easy thing to do.


Solid rep too on this forum...

[Xiaoxiao]

The blacklist also has SWC Poker on there.  Blacklisting both Betcoin and SWC Poker was quite unreasonable.  I don't see a #3 spot.  I just see it as "avoid".  It's also interesting that CardsChat didn't put PokerStars on the list, after they did what many considered very appalling by dishonoring hard earned rewards at the end of the year.

Its reason on why to avoid Betcoin's poker room was also quite unclear and incoherent:



Your post regarding user 'Betcoin.ag' has little to do with this thread.  'Betcoin.ag' received its negative ratings because of its problem with its casino provider.  This is the poker room which has little to do with the casino.  The software is separate and is the same as WPN's software provider, and Betcoin also shares tournaments with WPN.

Also my OP says:

*Please do not spam this thread.

Can you please respect this?


Edit- A day after you posted this, the blacklist has removed Betcoin Poker from the list.  https://www.cardschat.com/blacklisted.php

[DarkDays]

Your post regarding user 'Betcoin.ag' has little to do with this thread.  'Betcoin.ag' received its negative ratings because of its problems with its casino provider.  This is the poker room which has little to do with the casino.  The software is separate and is the same as WPN's software provider, and Betcoin also shares tournaments with WPN.

You tried to use that faulty logic in the past.  Yet you couldn't answer this very simple response:

This is an issue with the CASINO PROVIDER and THEIR CASINO SLOTS.  Has NOTHING to do with the poker room.

So you think Betcoin is unethical with their casino but ethical with their poker?  That's a REALLY large leap in logic.  Especially for a site that's been quite unethical with their poker room in the past.

Also, the WTN doesn't 'trust' Betcoin.  It's a std skin deal.  When a player buys into a tournament, Betcoin pays that amount to the network (which comes from the player's account) and if a player on the skin wins, the network pays the skin for them to cover the player's new balance. 

[TwitchySeal]

Also my OP says:

*Please do not spam this thread.

Why do you keep spamming it then?

[shangerlaa]

I always been payed by this affiliate he honors his word and my win rate on betcoin is higher then any other site. It has the weakest players. I honestly think bet coin is doing a great job and I am very negative about online poker rooms in general.

[TwitchySeal]

never mind dont sign up on betcoin. I just talked to their customer service very unprofessional and wont answer your question about if a game freezes in a sng do we get a refund. They siad just send a ticket. Screw them all join seals. Worst customer service I have had on any poker site. And they need customers and i play daily and play poker for a living. They thought i already signed up and had money deposited on the site so decided to be snotty and rude to me.  Great customer support. Dudes name was julian i think. GG. Ty for offer though I appreciate you trying to help out poker community but im not dealing with non professional people.

[Xiaoxiao]

Also my OP says:

*Please do not spam this thread.

Why do you keep spamming it then?

It's my service thread.  I created the OP and I manage this service....

never mind dont sign up on betcoin. I just talked to their customer service very unprofessional and wont answer your question about if a game freezes in a sng do we get a refund. They siad just send a ticket. Screw them all join seals. Worst customer service I have had on any poker site. And they need customers and i play daily and play poker for a living. They thought i already signed up and had money deposited on the site so decided to be snotty and rude to me.  Great customer support. Dudes name was julian i think. GG. Ty for offer though I appreciate you trying to help out poker community but im not dealing with non professional people.

I always been payed by this affiliate he honors his word and my win rate on betcoin is higher then any other site. It has the weakest players. I honestly think bet coin is doing a great job and I am very negative about online poker rooms in general.

Look at the timestamp of the posts.  The negative opinion was over 1 year ago.  Now his views have changed about the poker room.

[In4Coins]

Hey guys,

I'm just here to testimony that this RB service has always been reliable and gave me full satisfaction.

It also saddens me to see twichy seals constantly bashing the betcoin site and this service. No doubt numbers of new players have been thrown away by his constant spamming.

@Twichy : when you don't like a company, you go to their competitors. When you're smart, that is. Apparently, you've found nothing better in life than spam the webs and spend all your time on a site you keep bashing. Get a facking life, m0r0n

[asarfsdfd]

Hey guys,

I'm just here to testimony that this RB service has always been reliable and gave me full satisfaction.

It also saddens me to see twichy seals constantly bashing the betcoin site and this service. No doubt numbers of new players have been thrown away by his constant spamming.

@Twichy : when you don't like a company, you go to their competitors. When you're smart, that is. Apparently, you've found nothing better in life than spam the webs and spend all your time on a site you keep bashing. Get a facking life, m0r0n

This +1.

Xiaoxiao has always been great with his service, always paid the right amount in time and responded to queries very quickly and professionally. I dont know why one or two people have made it their purpose of life to bash him and his service all day long, its quite sad to see really. Ive had nothing but good experiences with the OP, he always paid what he promised and on time (which is a LOT more that can be said about most affs) and would absolutely recommend his rakeback for Betcoin.

[DarkDays]

its quite sad to see really.

Actually, the thing that's sad is when an employee can't fight his own battles/answer simple questions, so he turns to cold emailing everyone who uses his service and begging them to spam his thread with "positive reviews".  The REALLY sad thing, though, is when he asks these people to abuse the trust system to try to silence the people asking him questions.

Now why would you want to bury questions instead of answering them?  Odd.

[Xiaoxiao]

its quite sad to see really.

Actually, the thing that's sad is when an employee can't fight his own battles/answer simple questions, so he turns to cold emailing everyone who uses his service and begging them to spam his thread with "positive reviews".  The REALLY sad thing, though, is when he asks these people to abuse the trust system to try to silence the people asking him questions.

Now why would you want to bury questions instead of answering them?  Odd.

Abuse the trust system?  I showed PROOF of Twitchy having double standards.  Is having double standards unethical?  How about Twitchy using alternates to give me bad feedback?  Is that abuse of the trust system?  How about constant spamming of my thread with non poker related issues for malicious reasons?  I never asked anyone to abuse the trust system.  It's Twitchy that has abused the trust system by using alternates to give more bad feedback to people he's already given bad feedback.  

Employee?  Really dude?  When someone is constantly spamming my thread bringing up off topic issues and in essence mixing my thread with shit, attacking me, and has co-conspirators that he's riled up (such as yourself) and uses alternates, I have the right to defend myself.

Anyway I need to apologize to my players cause when you say something good about this program, you're just going to start getting attacked by Twitchy and his alternates/co conspirators.

Edit- Like none of what you said is even true.  Hence you were purposely vague just in an attempt to mix my thread with more shit to confuse newcomers.

[DarkDays]

its quite sad to see really.

Actually, the thing that's sad is when an employee can't fight his own battles/answer simple questions, so he turns to cold emailing everyone who uses his service and begging them to spam his thread with "positive reviews".  The REALLY sad thing, though, is when he asks these people to abuse the trust system to try to silence the people asking him questions.

Now why would you want to bury questions instead of answering them?  Odd.

Abuse the trust system?  I showed PROOF of Twitchy having double standards.  Is having double standards unethical?  How about Twitchy using alternates to give me bad feedback?  Is that abuse of the trust system?  How about constant spamming of my thread with non poker related issues for malicious reasons?  I never asked anyone to abuse the trust system.  It's Twitchy that has abused the trust system by using alternates to give more bad feedback to people he's already given bad feedback.  

Employee?  Really dude?  When someone is constantly spamming my thread bringing up off topic issues and in essence mixing my thread with shit, attacking me, and has co-conspirators that he's riled up (such as yourself) and uses alternates, I have the right to defend myself.

Anyway I need to apologize to my players cause when you say something good about this program, you're just going to start getting attacked by Twitchy and his alternates/co conspirators.

Edit- Like none of what you said is even true.  Hence you were purposely vague just in an attempt to mix my thread with more shit to confuse newcomers.

If what I said wasn't true, why would you know EXACTLY what I was talking about and type out multiple paragraphs trying to deny it?

[TwitchySeal]

Hey Xiao,

You know, there's a place you can make these accusations here on Bitcointalk.  

Why wouldn't you make them there?  



(Xiao = harryjr  lolxiao = me







Xiao has yet to leave any neg trust for me, wtf? 

Hi Members of the BetcoinRakeback.com 40-150% extra rakeback program.  Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0

First of all I'd like to thank all of you for taking advantage of this profitable program.  It has allowed many of you to consistently profit in the poker room.  

However, as some of you may know, user 'TwitchySeal' aka 'OHYEAH' has been determined to libel this RB service.  Some of you have already expressed your outrage towards his behavior/spam in my thread and have complained to me about him.  Basically, he has a vendetta against Betcoin management and he's willing to attack anyone associated with Betcoin from affiliates to players.  A lot of times his intentions may seem good and they are (when he fairly calls out sites for irrational decisions), but he has ulterior motives which are ego-driven.  He uses alternate accounts and has co-conspirators to accomplish his goals.  And furthermore, he is a highly confrontational and impatient person.  His behavior in our service thread confuses newcomers and makes them afraid to take advantage of this program, and they end up playing else where paying a lot higher rake.  Betcoin Poker is a blossoming poker environment with a community where both players and live support can police the tables nearly 24/7 and can call out questionable plays such as collusion or bots in the forums/chat; no other poker establishment has this.

Though I don't always agree with the decisions and viewpoints of Betcoin management, I can assure you that they are not 'scammers.'  Scammers cannot get this far in the gaming world and have the connections they have (WPN software/membership, Casino providers, Sportsbook providers).  Having spoken to them many times I know they are well-funded.  In fact they own several other small licensed online gaming establishments but for anonymity's sake haven't divulged the exact ownership.

I can assure you they're goal is creating a good poker room, but they were very inexperienced with online poker management and have been steadily learning.  I am asking you as your loyal affiliate if you could please give some feedback in my thread to let new users know how rewarding this program can be, so that this program can grow, and in turn it will help the poker room grow so we could all reap the rewards.

Sincerely,
Xiao

[TwitchySeal]

Oh one more thing (almost forgot)

Congrats to Betcoin for the cardschat #3 spot on the blacklist  for July 2016.  Not an easy thing to do.

[NiceSoft12]

Oh one more thing (almost forgot)

Congrats to Betcoin for the cardschat #3 spot on the blacklist  for July 2016.  Not an easy thing to do.

Cardschat already removed this though... why still post this?

[TwitchySeal]

Oh one more thing (almost forgot)

Congrats to Betcoin for the cardschat #3 spot on the blacklist  for July 2016.  Not an easy thing to do.

Cardschat already removed this though... why still post this?

Because it's something Betcoin doesn't want people to know about.  I think they paid cardschat somehow to get it removed.  Which is why no explanation was given by Cardschat.  I want people to realize how scummy Betcoin is. 

To be honest, I think the whole list is stupid.  It's been up for months.   The only reason it got any attention is because I tweeted it at them last week.   Watch August 1, it will be the same list it is now with "August" instead of "July"  Nothing else will change. (Well, I don't know for sure, but it was the same for May and June)

Betcoins reaction is what I'm trying to bring attention to, not the list.  They put all effort into trying to make people think they are honest and transparent and no effort into being honest or transparent. THis is another example.

[Xiaoxiao]

The reason it was removed was because it had no reason to even be on the blacklist from the start.  That blacklist is a joke because SWC is on their as well.  Why don't you spam SWC thread with the blacklist TwitchySeal? 

Also why isn't PokerStars on that blacklist?  They removed people's Supernova statuses at the END of the year after they had worked the entire year trying to achieve it.  Does that not warrant to be on the blacklist?  Hence that blacklist is a joke.  But you're still posting it to libel and spam.

Does this look like a valid reason?