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December 31, 2013, 04:51:47 AM
Last edit: December 31, 2013, 05:31:27 AM by ireneang
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Anybody has joined this IPO? I think VISAcoin is an elegant concept. Hope it can be an improved NXT version.
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You can find out more details from the following forum post link.

Visacoin:Born for circulation-Method of payment and Circulation based on BTC-Gold
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.msg4131903#msg4131903
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keep watching it!
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Wow 82 btc funded.

https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
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I think Bitcoin can do everything any of these new coins can do - they are simply not needed!

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Bitcoins are the number one Cryptocurrency and basically this question was already answered many times but these altcoins
dont differ from bitcoin , the only ones that differ is like feathercoin and a couple of others, bitcoin should always be the leader
and it currently is.

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I think Bitcoin can do everything any of these new coins can do - they are simply not needed!

Well... bitcoin is a bit slow. Furthermore, it is facing 51% attack!!!! 2nd generation coins can solve this problem. Furthermore, it takes time (can be years) to mine >50% of coins for each new cryptocoin.  
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December 31, 2013, 07:26:47 AM
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What concept?

So far there is no concept to it beyond send money and maybe when I am rich I might choose to hire someone to look into making something, but probably since I am anonymous it will be simpler to just run with the money, especially when you bear in mind there are people out there with actual real plans and ideas who are likely to come up with something real, though I guess maybe when they do we can clone it or something...

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Bitcoin is the leader because it is so far ahead of all the other coins.  It has been supported longer and has a lot of "official" support by developers which makes it way more appealing, it's basically the "genesis" block for all coins if you will, and the network support for it is way larger than anything else because it grew in a period of people purchasing asics back before the 800$ bitcoins.

That doesn't mean that Bitcoin is is actually better technologically than any other alt coins.  A lot of coins offer a lot of new innovation and improved features.

Peercoin for example, consumes far less energy than bitcoin and uses a hybrid of POW and POS meaning that the network is more maintained by coin holders than coin miners, and that hybrid reduces the risk of 51% attacks.

Look at transaction times for bitcoin coin.  Nobody likes to see such loooong transaction times compared to what they are used to today. Several coins already offer better transaction speeds and build innovative features by utilizing the networks themselves.

Curecoin seeks to use all that wasted network hash power for solving problems in the science and mathematics communities.  Prime coin already does this as well by trying to find more prime numbers than we know of (although the actual value in prime coin doing this is debatable.. )

Namecoin network has an open source key/value registration and transfer system.  You can choose a domain name on a network that can't be taken down.  Or create secure web addresses.

Datacoin offers data storage on the network which is retrieved via hash information

Freicoin offers the idea of demurrage fees for people holding onto their coins for too long. (Features based on how we believe our money should be handled, just as important as the key concepts that bitcoin offers- decentralization, low transaction fees and zero ability to print money causing inflation.

Anoncoin seeks to offer complete anonymity on their network for whatever it is you wish to do.

Lottocoin offers unregulated gambling not subject to the laws and taxes we see for gambling today.

And the list goes on.  So to say that bitcoin is the ONLY choice when it comes to a coin is a false notion.  Yes bitcoin is the only coin of immense value right now because of the way it has been accepted, and it is not for or against any small subset feature like lottocoin or sexcoin, but that doesn't mean that the other coins don't have value.

And I would argue that some of the innovations that other coins are offering, like peercoin or any PoS coin for that matter that won't cause as much energy waste are going to be somewhat of an industry standard in the future, as these issues are just as important as the key focus we're trying to achieve with cryptocurrency in the first place.

Don't cont out other altcoins yet.  They might not REPLACE bitcoin any time soon, but I believe in the future as we see coins get a good handle on how the number of coins should be minted up to a point, that the coins offering that AND better technology have a clear advantage of pulling ahead.  It might be slow and it might be rough.. but I think they will eventually take the lead.
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What concept?

So far there is no concept to it beyond send money and maybe when I am rich I might choose to hire someone to look into making something, but probably since I am anonymous it will be simpler to just run with the money, especially when you bear in mind there are people out there with actual real plans and ideas who are likely to come up with something real, though I guess maybe when they do we can clone it or something...

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Visacoin:Born for circulation
-Method of payment and Circulation based on BTC-Gold


Using VSC,Simple like using your Visa




2013.12.29 Important update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389958.0

VSC  IPO,Take off now ! ! !                                                                   Amount:21.0602BTC Has Received

Blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Remind:Do not forget to pm me

Why do we need Visacoin?

Most of the time a dollar is in your wallet in the morning and in the afternoon it’s in the Starbuck’s register. We rarely keep the same dollars in our pocket for more than days at a time, no matter how rich or poor we might be. My experience in the bank industry has taught me if there is no circulation, the dollar is just a piece of paper. Conversely, if that same dollar circulates, its value will be doubled. Take a look at your BTC, how long have you kept your bitcoin in your personal wallets? From the moment you get them, they often do not move outside of the confines of your wallet addresses.

There are many reasons for that but one of them are that BTC wallets are very inconvenient to use:
-   They are 8G or more
-   We have to wait for confirmation that amounts to 10 minutes of our time or more
-   You cannot use them for every purchase you’d like to make (You’re starving but cannot use your BTC to buy a hamburger at a specific burger joint)

There are many problems with BTC preventing it from widespread use. BTC in a lot of ways is gold, and we don’t directly use gold as trade for goods and services. It’s not practical. We don’t walk into KFC offering a unit of gold in exchange for a bucket of chicken. BTC is the same way. For a digital currency to function in everyday commerce a coin must be easy to use, easy to carry, lightweight, and without copious amounts of data. Visacoin is that answer.
      
What is Visacoin?

Visacoin is a convenient, safe and reliable method of payment.
How? If you have a deep knowledge of BTC, you know BTC is actually a book -- recording the data source and destination. Visacoin only selects what’s useful to us in the Blockchain. Visacoin is not trying to create an entirely new blockchain like every other cryptocurrency. Instead, it is trying to make the existing BTC blockchain more efficient. Visacoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where.

How can we get Visacoin?

As mentioned above, Visacoin is not creating its own blockchain, but is selecting from the BTC blockchain. This can accelerate the process of our transaction. Thusly, Visacoin is another form of BTC.

Given this feature we don't have to develop a coin and waste everyone's time on mining. So we are using crowdfunding, similar to the way MSC has.

If you want to get VSC do the following:

1. Deadline: 3 months (90 days) 2014.3.31 will be the final day of the crowdfund. The earlier join in this project the more benefits you get (later I will detail what those are).
2. Limit: In the design, we don't stipulate a minimum and maximum limit. You can send 1mbtc, or1000btc. You choose.
3. Method: Send any amount of BTC to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb By the Visacoin foundation management).(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much VSC will you get.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

How much Visacoin can we get
Depends on the following three factors:
A: Total BTC of project received.
B: How much BTC you sent.
C: When you send it during the project period (The first month in can get extra rewards).

Extra rewards:

In order to encourage everyone to actively participate in the project, I own part of the BTC as a reward. The first person who sends more than 1 BTC will get the same number of BTC as a reward. The first month in can get extra 1.1X, the second month 1.05X.

DO YOU WANT TO WORK FOR VISACOIN?

We have a ton of work to do. You can help, and get paid for your work!

We have:
1. Working to build wallets and independent software projects.
2. Writing specs for various features.
3. A PR company.
4. Project Management
5. Hiring

And many more…
    To find a project,  Please apply by emailing  vsccoins@gmail.com.

   We also need to set up a foundation to manage the daily affairs. Including but not limited to the following content:
   1)Release the latest progress of the project,
   2)Supervise the use of money
   3)Solve technical problems
   4)To solve the public doubt
   Etc.
   If you are an honest man(It is more important than any other requirements),and have the time and the ability to management the team,
You can contact me by email(vsccoins@gmail.com),

Now I need at least three people to help me finish prophase works.

Github:https://github.com/visacoin/vsc

Medium and long-term plan will be released.

Blockchain:https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

  
VSC Logo Design Contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0
website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

I didn't realize that a project will have so many questions on the first day,I all day in response to the question,Really frustrating!!!

New Progress
Short-term plans:
1) Designing a logo of vsc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0

2) Build a formal website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

3)Finished whitepaper
Is writing

Medium-term plan:
1)Set up a Foundation
In different countries and regions
2)Recruitment software developers
((Wallet For Windows.luinx and Mac os.released sourcecodes))
3)Develop an API(for iPhone and android)

In this Step,
development the main functions of vsc:
Secured transactions
Credit facility
Automatic transfers between accounts
Foreign Currency Exchange
Electronic money
more:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385739.0


Some notes:
1)This project has only just begun. Lots of work waiting to be done,I have gave up my Christmas holidays
Many people want to see the fruits immediately, They want to want to wake up tomorrow and be a millionaire,. We need hard work to achieve that.
2)This project is like a baby. There are many aspects that need to improve,. There may be all kinds of problems, but we cannot deny the viability of Visacoin because of flaws that might arise.
3)I'm tired of responding to a variety of suspicions on the project ,so,I will only answer questions about technical issues. If you do not believe, that is fine but please leave. This project is open source.,
4) I must remind: everyone that any project has the possibility of failure, including this one, mscs plight has confirmed this, I'd rather you see it as an attempt ,a kind of opportunity which  can change the BTCworld. If it fails, I would lose all my btc, so I will try my best to make it successful.

I will always publish any new progress I make.

Thanks to those who have encouraged me!!

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!!!

Let's see what our kind friend found about the thread, it was found by one of my friend but me.

The Visacoin author published the thread
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The author was trying to find some one to translate the thread
Local / 山寨币 / 第二代比特币Visacoin的发布,以BTC作为酬劳的翻译任务    on: December 25, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
Visacoin is a  new currency is being developed,based on BTC-Gold

The project  purpose is to use  btc easier,like use your Visa card

文章在这:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0

翻译中文并在这个板块发布

最好的你得到0.12BTC or100vsc


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The author(maybe same person as Visacoin) ilan translated the thread, but he/she did not get the 0.12BTC bounties at address 17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm.
Name:   ilan【中文翻译者,17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm,这个地址没有得到visacoin的许诺的0.12BTC翻译费】
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ilan在这里表露了做山寨的意思:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380617.msg4086593#msg4086593

Pretended to translate the thread.
Name:   Ribuce.J【假装翻译:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384551.msg4137324#msg4137324】
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See above evidence and find out the truth.

About me - From Mars. Fighting for truth forever.

I have told you guys this is definitely a scam!!! Let me repeat my opinion here again. Anybody still trust this project and donate to the BTC address? Then you will lose all your BTCs and Visacoin will steal all of them, let see the final result. Let's keep a closely eye on this scam thread. Visacoin has no technical background at all!!!
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January 01, 2014, 10:28:04 PM
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See? No actual concept at all, just a bunch of vacuous vague crap implying that maybe if they don't run with the money they might be able to pay people to sit down and try to think of something to do.

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See? No actual concept at all, just a bunch of vacuous vague crap implying that maybe if they don't run with the money they might be able to pay people to sit down and try to think of something to do.

-MarkM-


I feel like banging my head against a wall sometimes. Some people should not be here. It's their money to lose, but good grief, are people so ready to put such blind faith in things like this? It truly boggles my mind.

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What concept?

So far there is no concept to it beyond send money and maybe when I am rich I might choose to hire someone to look into making something, but probably since I am anonymous it will be simpler to just run with the money, especially when you bear in mind there are people out there with actual real plans and ideas who are likely to come up with something real, though I guess maybe when they do we can clone it or something...

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Visacoin:Born for circulation
-Method of payment and Circulation based on BTC-Gold


Using VSC,Simple like using your Visa




2013.12.29 Important update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389958.0

VSC  IPO,Take off now ! ! !                                                                   Amount:21.0602BTC Has Received

Blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Remind:Do not forget to pm me

Why do we need Visacoin?

Most of the time a dollar is in your wallet in the morning and in the afternoon it’s in the Starbuck’s register. We rarely keep the same dollars in our pocket for more than days at a time, no matter how rich or poor we might be. My experience in the bank industry has taught me if there is no circulation, the dollar is just a piece of paper. Conversely, if that same dollar circulates, its value will be doubled. Take a look at your BTC, how long have you kept your bitcoin in your personal wallets? From the moment you get them, they often do not move outside of the confines of your wallet addresses.

There are many reasons for that but one of them are that BTC wallets are very inconvenient to use:
-   They are 8G or more
-   We have to wait for confirmation that amounts to 10 minutes of our time or more
-   You cannot use them for every purchase you’d like to make (You’re starving but cannot use your BTC to buy a hamburger at a specific burger joint)

There are many problems with BTC preventing it from widespread use. BTC in a lot of ways is gold, and we don’t directly use gold as trade for goods and services. It’s not practical. We don’t walk into KFC offering a unit of gold in exchange for a bucket of chicken. BTC is the same way. For a digital currency to function in everyday commerce a coin must be easy to use, easy to carry, lightweight, and without copious amounts of data. Visacoin is that answer.
      
What is Visacoin?

Visacoin is a convenient, safe and reliable method of payment.
How? If you have a deep knowledge of BTC, you know BTC is actually a book -- recording the data source and destination. Visacoin only selects what’s useful to us in the Blockchain. Visacoin is not trying to create an entirely new blockchain like every other cryptocurrency. Instead, it is trying to make the existing BTC blockchain more efficient. Visacoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where.

How can we get Visacoin?

As mentioned above, Visacoin is not creating its own blockchain, but is selecting from the BTC blockchain. This can accelerate the process of our transaction. Thusly, Visacoin is another form of BTC.

Given this feature we don't have to develop a coin and waste everyone's time on mining. So we are using crowdfunding, similar to the way MSC has.

If you want to get VSC do the following:

1. Deadline: 3 months (90 days) 2014.3.31 will be the final day of the crowdfund. The earlier join in this project the more benefits you get (later I will detail what those are).
2. Limit: In the design, we don't stipulate a minimum and maximum limit. You can send 1mbtc, or1000btc. You choose.
3. Method: Send any amount of BTC to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb By the Visacoin foundation management).(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much VSC will you get.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

How much Visacoin can we get
Depends on the following three factors:
A: Total BTC of project received.
B: How much BTC you sent.
C: When you send it during the project period (The first month in can get extra rewards).

Extra rewards:

In order to encourage everyone to actively participate in the project, I own part of the BTC as a reward. The first person who sends more than 1 BTC will get the same number of BTC as a reward. The first month in can get extra 1.1X, the second month 1.05X.

DO YOU WANT TO WORK FOR VISACOIN?

We have a ton of work to do. You can help, and get paid for your work!

We have:
1. Working to build wallets and independent software projects.
2. Writing specs for various features.
3. A PR company.
4. Project Management
5. Hiring

And many more…
    To find a project,  Please apply by emailing  vsccoins@gmail.com.

   We also need to set up a foundation to manage the daily affairs. Including but not limited to the following content:
   1)Release the latest progress of the project,
   2)Supervise the use of money
   3)Solve technical problems
   4)To solve the public doubt
   Etc.
   If you are an honest man(It is more important than any other requirements),and have the time and the ability to management the team,
You can contact me by email(vsccoins@gmail.com),

Now I need at least three people to help me finish prophase works.

Github:https://github.com/visacoin/vsc

Medium and long-term plan will be released.

Blockchain:https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

  
VSC Logo Design Contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0
website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

I didn't realize that a project will have so many questions on the first day,I all day in response to the question,Really frustrating!!!

New Progress
Short-term plans:
1) Designing a logo of vsc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0

2) Build a formal website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

3)Finished whitepaper
Is writing

Medium-term plan:
1)Set up a Foundation
In different countries and regions
2)Recruitment software developers
((Wallet For Windows.luinx and Mac os.released sourcecodes))
3)Develop an API(for iPhone and android)

In this Step,
development the main functions of vsc:
Secured transactions
Credit facility
Automatic transfers between accounts
Foreign Currency Exchange
Electronic money
more:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385739.0


Some notes:
1)This project has only just begun. Lots of work waiting to be done,I have gave up my Christmas holidays
Many people want to see the fruits immediately, They want to want to wake up tomorrow and be a millionaire,. We need hard work to achieve that.
2)This project is like a baby. There are many aspects that need to improve,. There may be all kinds of problems, but we cannot deny the viability of Visacoin because of flaws that might arise.
3)I'm tired of responding to a variety of suspicions on the project ,so,I will only answer questions about technical issues. If you do not believe, that is fine but please leave. This project is open source.,
4) I must remind: everyone that any project has the possibility of failure, including this one, mscs plight has confirmed this, I'd rather you see it as an attempt ,a kind of opportunity which  can change the BTCworld. If it fails, I would lose all my btc, so I will try my best to make it successful.

I will always publish any new progress I make.

Thanks to those who have encouraged me!!

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!!!

Let's see what our kind friend found about the thread, it was found by one of my friend but me.

The Visacoin author published the thread
Name:   Visacoin
Posts:   40
Activity:   14
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Date Registered:   December 24, 2013, 05:29:22 PM

The author was trying to find some one to translate the thread
Local / 山寨币 / 第二代比特币Visacoin的发布,以BTC作为酬劳的翻译任务    on: December 25, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
Visacoin is a  new currency is being developed,based on BTC-Gold

The project  purpose is to use  btc easier,like use your Visa card

文章在这:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0

翻译中文并在这个板块发布

最好的你得到0.12BTC or100vsc


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The author(maybe same person as Visacoin) ilan translated the thread, but he/she did not get the 0.12BTC bounties at address 17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm.
Name:   ilan【中文翻译者,17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm,这个地址没有得到visacoin的许诺的0.12BTC翻译费】
Posts:   7
Activity:   7
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 19, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
Last Active:   December 27, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
ilan在这里表露了做山寨的意思:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380617.msg4086593#msg4086593

Pretended to translate the thread.
Name:   Ribuce.J【假装翻译:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384551.msg4137324#msg4137324】
Posts:   3
Activity:   3
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Date Registered:   December 25, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
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See above evidence and find out the truth.

About me - From Mars. Fighting for truth forever.

I have told you guys this is definitely a scam!!! Let me repeat my opinion here again. Anybody still trust this project and donate to the BTC address? Then you will lose all your BTCs and Visacoin will steal all of them, let see the final result. Let's keep a closely eye on this scam thread. Visacoin has no technical background at all!!!

agreed huge scam Smiley

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January 04, 2014, 06:45:01 AM
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Before deciding to invest in VisnCoin (old name, VisaCoin), please spend a few minutes to understand what has been happening after substantial number of people have invested in this VisnCoin. I am one of those, and probably will be a victim. 

Here is a real story with concrete evidence, as record of Blockchain cannot tell lies. You can check out evidence by clicking the links provided below.

The Visacoin developer has been changing the IPO rules, and keep receiving investment even the proposed number of investors have reached.

The developer has got the time to make a website, changed the coin name, registered as a new member, but can't even spend half a minute to correct my investment figure in the IPO summary table.
My investment is 2.5 BTC, but only 1 BTC is shown.  I have informed the VisaCoin developer about my investments several times in the past a few days.
In the Visacoin thread, other investors have suffered from similar problems.

Using the provided block explorer https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb?offset=50&filter=0
Eveybody can check using original IPO BTC account number: 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
Everybody can check using my BTC account number: 13gVWinUNnqAEDrnEDLwjeVPoLet4K8CBL.
Everybody can see that I have investigated two times (1.5 BTC, 1 BTC) with a total of 2.5 BTC.

Then Everybody can check my investment record (row 54, Ir**Ang) the IPO with the following link:
Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Here is original link of Visacoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0/
You can also see that now they changed the BTC account for receiving IPO.
The irresponsible attitude of Visacoin team has made me as well as other investors worry whether VisaCoin is just a scam!
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