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February 04, 2022, 06:47:32 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/us/politics/russia-ukraine-invasion-pretext.html

Russia allegedly planning to pretext their invasion using a staged video of an attack by Ukraine on Russian military. This is only according to US intelligence, though British intelligence claim a similar operation was being planned.

Journalists have asked the U.S. for the exact evidence of this intelligence, U.S. officials provided none other than their own words. Sound familiar to WMD's in in '03 with Iraq?
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February 04, 2022, 04:33:17 PM
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So Putin wants to be responsible for the next world war? If conflict escalated between that two superpowers then it won't be among them only. The whole world will take a side and start killing each other. But I think EU leaders are more realistic about the situation and will not start a proxy war for the USA. Germany said that they will not supply any weapon to the Ukraine military which means they know they need Russia for natural resources. The USA just trying to restore its pride by threatening Russia after being defeated by the Taliban. Otherwise, Ukraine is not that valuable for the USA to start a war.
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February 05, 2022, 09:18:41 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/us/politics/russia-ukraine-invasion-pretext.html

Russia allegedly planning to pretext their invasion using a staged video of an attack by Ukraine on Russian military. This is only according to US intelligence, though British intelligence claim a similar operation was being planned.

Journalists have asked the U.S. for the exact evidence of this intelligence, U.S. officials provided none other than their own words. Sound familiar to WMD's in in '03 with Iraq?
The US state department has provided no evidence to support how they know this. When pressed, the state department has said that the allegation is based on newly "declassified information", and when asked what the declassified information was, the state department said that the declassified information is that Russia is planning on executing a false flag operation. When pressed on how the state department knows this, a spokesmen essentially said that the allegation is true because he said it is true.

This may or may not be an accurate report. However, the state department is not installing confidence. I think it is probably more likely that the US intelligence is speculating that Russia may execute some kind of false flag report, but they do not have any concrete evidence one is in the making.
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March 16, 2022, 06:31:37 PM
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Whether both countries are as guilty as charged by the other it's a big question, cause both NATO and Russia is just playing politics with the whole issue in which the ball in play (Ukraine) is receiving the whole heat on all sides.

This war is basically an arms conflict game between the Powers that be, so let Ukraine take up a decisive step either to concede to Russia to end this war or totally join the NATO. Either way Ukraine decision may either escalate or bring an end to this war.


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March 16, 2022, 06:49:12 PM
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As an American, it's easy for me to look at the Russia situation and blame them for trying to ignite a war.  It does appear to be a bit of a double standard though.  Russia has been fairly open about the military defense systems surrounding their country making them uncomfortable
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Not trying to defend Russia, but ...

I have seen all over the forum "I am not with Russia but...". Firstly, this is not Russia, this is Putin's version of Russia.  Secondly, "feeling uncomfortable" is not a morally or legal valid excuse to attack another country with the intention to change their government.

Now, I do get there is a point on not throwing rocks at a bear, however you cannot let the bear decide what you can or cannot do in your country or else you will never be free to progress, change and evolve as a nation.

On the NATO argument, there is no argument. Putin knows perfectly well that NATO would not accept Ukraine as a member - it is simply too risky. This is all about Putin trying to get a strategic hold on the Black Sea and trying to incorporate Ukraine, a large food producer, into their crony envelope of oligarchs to steal from Ukrainians as he steals the resources of the Russian people.
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March 16, 2022, 07:46:08 PM
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Not only there will be a war in Ukraine, but there will also be war in all former Soviet satellite countries, i.e. WWIII.

The question is not if but when.  Putin already signaled that to the world.

People who think appeasing Putin will work have rocks for brains.

Nobody wants war, but with these Soviet leaders in charge, it is certain.

1938-1939 history is repeating itself.  Different actors, same outcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ7x8odi-OU

PS. I bet Putin has plans not just for Europe, but for Latin/Central America and the rest of the world.
With Russian military bases in Mexico, you will be building that wall sooner rather than later, lol.

PPS. Soviets always maintained that Alaska Purchase was just a lease for 100/150 years, to be returned to Russia in 1966/ 2017.
So watch out for that headline one day.

appeasing putin means just recognizing the donbass genocide and leave russian speaking ukranians alone,

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