Demoted newbies, please stop crying.

[Welsh]

You don't need to cancel the rank. Just get rid of Junior signatures completely and only let them have a signature until the achieve Member rank with ten merit. Junior rank still has its place and I think the one merit requirement at least sets them apart from the worst or the worst of Newbies who can't even get that. Let's make them step it up before they're allowed to earn by posting here though and ten merit is a good aptitude test for that.  

Yeah, this would be nice. But, judging by themos' words he doesn't want to add too many restrictions, and this one would likely be a little to harsh in his book. I support the idea though, especially if this current solution doesn't prove beneficial in a few months time. I guess this would be the final draw until removing signature campaigns themselves. Imagine the uproar in Meta if that ever did happen.

[TBboys]

You don't need to cancel the rank. Just get rid of Junior signatures completely and only let them have a signature until the achieve Member rank with ten merit. Junior rank still has its place and I think the one merit requirement at least sets them apart from the worst or the worst of Newbies who can't even get that. Let's make them step it up before they're allowed to earn by posting here though and ten merit is a good aptitude test for that.  

Yeah, this would be nice. But, judging by themos' words he doesn't want to add too many restrictions, and this one would likely be a little to harsh in his book. I support the idea though, especially if this current solution doesn't prove beneficial in a few months time. I guess this would be the final draw until removing signature campaigns themselves. Imagine the uproar in Meta if that ever did happen.

In fact, as a newbie, I also want to raise the rank and make money from bounty（honestly, every newbie has had this idea.）, but I seen a terrible fact after a while,the number of Jr.member's bounty participants is so large that I can't imagine it. I am angry that almost 90% of these Jr.member bounty participants posts were all of social media links. I think this is unfair, at least, for "humans" like me, this is not fair.
Today I found another fact. Many Jr.member got a merit today, and most of them are suspicious. I don't want to check if they are alt,beacuse this is a waste of my time. I just think 1 Merit may be too easy to get. If the lowest rank is member, the situation will be much better.

[amishmanish]

As far as I know, more than 30% of the accounts in jr.member may be robots, because I have seen some accounts, all of their posts are replied to in a thread, and some accounts have all the posts are advertising content. I seriously doubt that these are robot accounts.

You are right. I have seen bot-like posts a lot of times now. Copied posts appear at the rear ends of hundreds of long pages. I am sure there is a thread to point out these accounts. I have been a little rusty so don't know for sure if this is being looked into actively or not.

I'm calling it the "pissed off newbie invasion". I expect for a few weeks at least we'll have half a dozen threads opened addressing the new implementation, and everyone rehashing what has already been said in the main thread.

In a desperate attempt to get some merit, yes. Users, especially merit sources, need to wake up and not give out merit for rehashed comments in Meta.

Merits hurriedly brandished off are the worst. It is actually lot of work to give merit only to those who deserve it. Going through post histories is important to make sure these aren't just the bunch who get a "change of heart" post any new rule implementation. I think those users who have been trying to get involved but were getting ignored because of the huge spam should be the first ones to get merit.

An example of the mistakes that i am talking about. Not questioning Philipma's judgement but I think this was a hurried one. The kind that should not happen.

[nakamura12]

you right , at least for me, someone who has a very bad level of English. So i just doing the Twitter campaign, the only signature campaign I joined was the Privcy coin

We don't want to know if you're bad in english if it's your second language or not. If you know that you are bad at it then you should start learning english by starting at basic skills. You can learn in fittotalk forum by jet cash and this one shared by this person https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4544266.msg40950206#msg40950206. You should open this link where you can find the ebook for learning english instead of telling your not good at english. I check  your post history most of it are twitter reports for bounty so it's hard for you to earn merit because of it.

[Minusha]

 the only signature campaign I joined was the Privcy coin

By the way, Privcy changed now the conditions for their Airdrops, to wear the signature is not mandatory requirement anymore. So you can take part in the Privcy campain as a Newbie too without problems. Many bounties will change their requirements now, I am sure.

[redhead_air]

Why spammers?  People promote new altcoins and helps cryptocommunity grow up.
I don't think that this is bad. Blockchain technology become more popular and this "spammers" are the part of it.

[aejontargaryen]

I don't give a damn about signature campaigns or even the signature in general. I should be able to post images. I came to this forum to discuss and build bitcoin & crypto projects, not make money from an ad banner. Someone with some balls check my post history and tell me I deserve no merit.

[Callanta787]

No problem ,let's all follow this new idea implemented by the moderator ,it is for our own good and its best for bitcointalk forum.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

No problem ,let's all follow this new idea implemented by the moderator ,it is for our own good and its best for bitcointalk forum.

Wow, that's a change of heart from this:

This is so unforgiving ,do you think that all newbies can afford that 0.002btc ? Full member are the ones that should be paying any dime ,admin cut us some slack

Or maybe you figured out that raging against the new changes isn't going to earn you any merits?

[bitart]

This situation will be at least as annoying as the spam that occurred after the introduction of the merit system. The measure was long overdue and many users were asking for it.

I'm calling it the "pissed off newbie invasion". I expect for a few weeks at least we'll have half a dozen threads opened addressing the new implementation, and everyone rehashing what has already been said in the main thread.

Or we can create a topic in Meta, like: Demoted newbies' topic (for crying)... and lock (or delete) all the other topics about this change...
There are two kind of newbies now:
1. Who want to rage against the new system and this is why he/she opens a new topic in meta
2. Who wants to get merit immediately and starts a topic and writes in a style that will catch the merit sources' eyes, like advicing other newbies to create decent posts in order to get merit and stop crying, etc...
They should all go into one topic, it could grow 20 pages in a day and the merit sources would have an easier task if they really want to search among those users.... (or not...)
And Meta would be much cleaner, like it was 3 days before...

[cabalism13]

Maybe it is not difficult for you to earn merit/s, but for some people whose native language is not English getting even a single merit is an uphill climb.

It's not an excuse buddy, my native language isn't also English but how come I've got my Merits. I also knew many people here whose on the higher ranks who doesn't speak English really well.

This is a normal reaction to a change unless you are a bot, but everything will stabilize as time passes by just like the implementation of the merit system.

It's not normal though, that's is some kind of abnormality on a certain individual. Whining and mumbling all the times every changes has been made isn't normal. All of these are being discussed before it was implemented. I really don't give a damn to those noobs who has a little iniatiative to help these forum look better.

Or maybe you figured out that raging against the new changes isn't going to earn you any merits?

Certainly. Indeed.