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October 16, 2018, 06:07:52 PM
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I strongly believe/suspect that there are multiple "exchanges" in the Service Announcements board which pay people to bump their threads.

Most noticeably; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4971628.320

(This exchange also uses SMM panels to boost their following on twitter et al. Proof; http://archive.is/EP6bn, http://archive.is/GVqcL, http://archive.is/PzrmF click one of the eggs that retweeted their stuff, you'll see the accounts have since been blocked.)

And is overall just extremely shady, they have no users/traffic data but more volume than the likes of Cryptopia, but i won't go into that now.

This entire site is just a ticking bomb waiting to go off.



What exactly can be done against this w/out concrete proof of them doing it? I know that there are some rules to prevent paid bumping, but how exactly is this usually proven?


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October 16, 2018, 07:26:45 PM
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What exactly can be done against this w/out concrete proof of them doing it?
I was not able to get deleted a bounty thread with solid proof. I have posted it. Once, the bounty manager was tagged by DT but later DT turned it into neutral saying that "Affiliated with "Vilfred RoyalTeam". Vilfred RoyalTeam is actively breaking forum rules by spam bumping their thread." But both the accounts are from the same user.

So, without proof, I see nothing can actually be done. To be honest, there are hundreds of ANN/bounty threads which are being bumped hugely.

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October 16, 2018, 07:28:07 PM
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What exactly can be done against this w/out concrete proof of them doing it?
1 - Find proof
2 - Report said thread with said proof
3 - ? ? ?
4 - Profit
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October 16, 2018, 07:34:49 PM
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You can't really do anything about it, because it'll just be an allegation just as equivalent as telling satoshi is FBI.

You can witch hunt for proof, but I'll let you in on a hint: You get nothing by doing that.  Undecided

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October 16, 2018, 08:17:34 PM
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Report the one-liners as shitposts. There is roughly zero value in most of these:

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October 17, 2018, 03:44:52 AM
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From my experience, we can't do anything if there is no solid proof. We can just report spam post. If there is solid proof that they are asking for bump thread by any external link than you can send PM to moderators. They will trash the thread. I have reported so many thread like that and got trashed. Even OP will ban. For example;

Asking for reply on ANN with JOIN : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5035385.0
Trashed the thread, temp banned the OP and airdrop participants.


If there is no solid proof, than I bookmark the thread and report everyday. I have bookmarked lot of thread those I think they are using paid bumping. So spammer can't bump continually. If you found more than 100 spammer or bumper daily report them and send a pm to mod with details. They will check and perhaps they will trashed or lock thread.
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October 17, 2018, 04:55:06 AM
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You can report it for "low quality posts" and they will get deleted.

I deal with it in four ways:

Report the individual posts for low quality posts.
Check the worst users and see what other campaigns they shit-post for.
Check for plagiarism (gets permaban)
Hassle the campaign with LARGE posts listing some of the shills and their posts with IMAGES and MEMEs

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A shill is someone who pretends to be a customer.

In my opinion it is CONSUMER FRAUD

Do you think it is ethical to fool your potential investors ?


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October 17, 2018, 12:30:57 PM
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I reported a lot of posts like this, where users (mostly) Newbie spam thread with "great idea/project" posts just a little more meaningless words in the post. I think 99% of my reports handled with 100% accuracy. So, it is simple just to report to the administrator.

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