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Bitcointalk trolls, internal dysfunction and all out flame wars. Guide to the scandals.
Alternative title: Strays, catfights and hissing competitions.

I’ve considered writing this earlier. It is with some reluctance that I write this. I do not want to re-open old wounds or getting inadvertently involved. It is written from a neutral perspective so that an outsider understands it. I decided to go ahead after Pugman published a list and then  encouraged me to write an article about it.

Corrections, additions and comments welcome.

Knightmb (Michael Brown)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4547124.0
knightmb on bitcointalk -went from owning 371,067.36 BTC to being jailed for Mitt Romney extortion.
Involved with bitcoin early on. One of bitcoins largest whales. Obtained the bitcoin in curious circumstancesv

Pirateat40 (Trendon Shavers)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4464504.0
Bitcoin Savings and Trust and Pirateat40 on Bitcointalk (PONZI)
More that 146,000 bitcoins were collected.

silkroad & altoid (Ross Ulbricht)
Silkroad and Altoid were both accounts tied to Ross Ulbricht and subject to a DOJ subpoena
Silkroad Founder jailed for running a darkweb drug market
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437773.0

MagicalTux (Mark Karpeles)
Founder of hacked exchange MtGox,
Police suspect in Silkroad (never proven)
Hosted the bitcointalk on his servers and reviewed the code after the first bitcointalk hack.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412667.0  (Mt Gox story)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4405796.0 (Bitcointalk hacks and vandalism)

WME (Alexander Vinnik)
Bitcointalk user WME was identified as Vinnick when he made this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85977.msg1037908#msg1037908
http://archive.is/6cFcY
Other online activities by the same user account are alledged to link it to the hack on MtGox.
Investigations by Wizsec, a group of bitcoin security specialists, had identified Vinnik as the owner of the wallets into which the stolen bitcoins had been transferred, many of which were sold on BTC-e.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412667.0

Cablepair (Tom)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.msg1157524#msg1157524
Cablepair took a lot of orders for the bASIC miner and when the BTC priced spiked he started paying back USD valued refunds. More mining issues here: Mining equipment scams, shams and failed deliveries.

escrow.ms (Pankaj Bharadwaj)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13840774#msg13840774
Following a report in the India Times Escrow.ms got removed from the DT list.
The arrest was for credit card cloning and then converting it to bitcoin to launder and distribute the stolen funds.

Master-p
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13376914#msg13376914
Master-p scamming people – When Escrow goes bad.

Goat / El Cabron  (Chaang Noi)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622250.0;all
VIP accounts can change their username. Goat renamed his account El Cabron.
Goat attacking theymos
Goat versus the forum administrator.... check out the cool signature....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622250.msg7030081#msg7030081





Banned since June 5 2014

Cyber pinoy V Gleb Gamow
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990219.0;topicseen Cyberpinoy going after Gleb Gamow because Gleb caught him  using a sockpuppet to shill his company.
Only half of the conversation remains. The rest was deleted by Cyberpinoy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.5

aTriz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2751956.0
aTriz being naive and providing his signature to a scam

The exchange between aTriz and ibminer explains it.


It was a marketing strategy and they tried to say they raised so much in just a day or 2.

I doubt they raised anymore then 1 BTC.
You are ok with ICOs stating false information about how much they have raised to other potential investors... and you would call this a marketing strategy?


No, but when I'm 2 weeks into a bounty program I'm basically forced to go along with it.

This is nothing but deceitful nonsense. What you call a "marketing strategy", I would call fraud.

Scammer: a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
Swindle: to obtain money or property by fraud or deceit
Fraud: a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.

No, but when I'm 2 weeks into a bounty program I'm basically forced to go along with it.

No, you are not forced to do anything you do not want to do here, especially when someone is being fraudulent.

Zeroxal and the blackmail sting operation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.msg17624090#msg17624090
the Zeroxal case divided some of the community.
Shorena and OgNasty gave negative trust to the DTs involved.

theymos stance on extortion/blackmail by staff
Lauda/TMAN/minifrij/IronMarvel2/owlcatz extortion attempt

Lauda tried to get a confession using a sting operation from user Zeroxal who “was not able or willing to explain double evasion of forum ban, advertising of counterfeit goods, selling botnet/cloud mining packages.” according to

This resulted in Lauda leaving as a staff member of this forum.

   Zeroxal is still and active member of the forum.






After this relations between Lauda, TMAN and Owlcatz soured against OgNasty and QuickSeller

Ognasty V Lauda



TMAN V OgNasty
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.0

I’m not the only one that remained confused after reading that.


[POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer?
should Og Be Removed from DT1 [POLL]

Owlcatz V OgNasty
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3157259.0






TwitchySeal V Ognasty
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214058.msg31139998#msg31139998T
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg30944546#msg30944546
TwichySeal made the followning accusation:
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I've been doing some digging on OgNastys 2012 involvement in the massive ponzi scheme known as 'Bitcoin Savings and Trust' run by Trendon Shavers aka Pirateat40.
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BTC451.075 Total OgNasty profited personally (without risk) for ONE MONTH (June 2011)

Ognasty replied
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This thread is a joke.  The "evidence" is not evidence of any wrongdoing of any kind.  There isn't even a victim mentioned in this "ponzi" allegation.  It's quite obvious to anyone who has paid attention over the years that this is nothing more than a delusional attempt by Lauda/TMAN/TwitchySeal to enact some sort of revenge against me for their reputations being ruined as a result of their own shady actions.

Timelord2067 V  Tomatocage
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183087.msg12461192#msg12461192
Timelord2067 accusing Tomatocage of being random people



OgNasty V Lupin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg15966476#msg15966476
OgNasty: "@Lutpin: Really should kill himself."

Quickseller escrowing for himself
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12330041#msg12330041
Quickseller was caught escrowing for himself and admitted it.
Resulting in a whole lot of negative trust.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174622.0

Tradefortress offers to pay QuickSeller (QS) to sue Vod
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1179238.msg12406935#msg12406935]
TradeFortress was the founder of hacked wallet provider inputs.io and coinlenders. (4000btc)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328053.0

Vod is attempting to create an unlimited and unconsented liability by offering refunds for those who have rendered services from me.

To be clear, your liability only extends to those you escrow scammed.   I've asked for a link for each request, so the community will easily be able to see if you scammed them, or if you properly used a third party escrow.

You could make this easier on everyone by providing a list of those you have scammed, so they can ask for the refund you have promised.

You know the first won't happen. Self moderated threads are self moderated and the OP may do so as they please; they've been there since the inception of the forum with "Local Rules".

I agree that Vod should certainly be removed from DefaultTrust. His remarks disparaging you as a scammer could fall under Canadian defamatory law; given the business activities you conduct on bitcointalk and the damages Vod's remarks could have on you, you might be interested in pursing civil action. And you'll get justice on Vod.

@Quickseller, I'll contribute 20 BTC towards a civil lawsuit against Vod. One of his email addresses is mlawrence02@yahoo.com , as given here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1070760#msg1070760

You may be able to subpoena Yahoo Canada for his IP address (via a John Doe-style civil suit), and then subpoena the ISP for account holder details.

Quicksellers list of users that condone violence
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614573.0;topicseen
Likely as a reaction to the ongoing feud it shows the dynamics between some of the long-term members on here.

people calling Vod a pedophile vod
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1248407.msg12962871#msg12962871

This is essentially due to a false and malicious report made about Vod on the ripoffreport. The website is owned by Ed Magedson who makes it particularly difficult for process servers to find him. While he claims not to remove anything from his website. He will remove it for a ongoing fee. The ripoff report is currently in serious trouble in several jurisdictions.

In March 2017, the Italian Data Protection Authority affirmed that Ripoff Report's activities — namely, Ed Magedson's requests for money to edit web pages — are illegal in Italy. The Italian authorities also noticed that Ripoff Report's web servers are occasionally not reachable from Italy in order to evade controls by the authorities themselves. Besides, they noticed that some web pages — which were being investigated by the authorities — were deleted out of the blue by the website owner, despite the claim that Ripoff Report does not remove reports.

A federal court stated that victims have "probable cause to sue for extortion and racketeering". http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-real-rip-off-report-6445677
http://drjaniceduffy.com/2017/05/ed-magedson-ripoff-report-darren-meade-sued-for-60-million/
http://drjaniceduffy.com/2017/05/ed-magedson-ripoff-report-darren-meade-obstruction-of-justice/


According to ripoffreport, you sent them information and content that should not be relied upon... and the accuracy of the information you sent them relies on anonymous authors and commenters.  Huh
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Opinions, advice, statements, offers, or other information or content made available through Ripoff Report are those of their respective authors and not of Xcentric, and should not necessarily be relied upon. Such authors are solely responsible for the accuracy of such content.

Xcentric does not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information on Ripoff Report and neither adopts nor endorses nor is responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any opinion, advice or statement made. Under no circumstances will Xcentric be responsible for any loss or damage resulting from anyone's reliance on information or other content posted on Ripoff Report.
https://www.ripoffreport.com/terms-of-service

Repeating false accusations without proof can result in defamation proceedings.

digaran - The DT investigator:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3779450.0
digaran Started a thread called ” Re: Hire me to defend your case for 0.01BTC! “
Which is now changed to:  Voluntary service to defend your case!

Digaran attempted to assist people in getting their negative default trust removed – initially for a fee with no guarantees. This resulted in a longstanding feud between digaran and certain Default Trust members that resulted in lots of red negative feedback for digaran and in constant posts by digaran complaining about Trust abuse.

This resulted in a lot of negative trust:



This resulted in lots of posts and accusations:

Vod trolling me with red tag!
Marlboroza changed email address after getting on DT2!
OgNasty is misusing the trust system for personal gains!
Do not trust suchmoon, a blatant trust abuser.
Marlboroza is abusing DT power!

Please don't ban digaran. He'd be back with 500 accounts trying to prove how unfair the ban is.

Flat Earth topic:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.0
This is a long running topic and people have received negative trust for expressing their opinions on there.

Prominent flat earthers include:

notbatman
nomad13666

BFL staff posting negative feedback on Theymos:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4736673.msg42793771#msg42793771
(Details further in this thread)

Spoetnik - FUD Philanthropist™
FUD first & ask questions later™

Spoetnik (self proclaimed FUD Philanthropist) clearly likes to troll and some of his topics and posts can be amusing.

[P2P] Ever Wanted to Ask a Pirate Questions ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1289771.msg13251832#msg13251832

 [TRIVIA] Who's worse GOX or Spoetnik ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1959687.msg19469329#msg19469329

Noob.. you are an idiot.
Read the fucking sticky topic here about the rules.
Notice anything that mentions SPECULATION ?

Further more why would anyone give a shit about the scam coin anyway ?

I have never had anything to do with ETH nor will i so why would i give a shit about the price of it ?

https://www.neowin.net/news/cryptocurrencies-have-been-banned-in-pakistan

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The State Bank of Pakistan has issued a circular on its website banning the usage of any virtual currency. Banks will not be able to allow customers any transaction in the form of cryptocurrencies.

 Cheesy

Drown losers..

Dishonerable mentions:

 I've seen a handful of members here in the past 3 years get banned for trolling (I think).Mixan, fwdxlsh, and that girl who kept writing that she has a thigh gap....or maybe that was fwdxlsh, can't remember.  MPOE-PR was another, right around the time I started lurking.

There was another member, with the handle of Oxoo10 or something similar who was trolling hard.

codishmumu had the thigh gap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1540539.msg15484527#msg15484527

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203093.5



Thank you to Pugman who provided extensive source material which I could expand on.
Thank you to The Pharmacist for some of the troll history.

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Just when people think it ends here:

I have got more, bitches:

BFL staff(Pokokohua!) spamming random crap in theymos and dogie's trust walls, there is another user involved: MelMan2002

theymos received 83 negative ratings:



And dogie received 85 negative ratings:


I still can't stop laughing on these ratings, you got to hand it to him.   Grin

Anduck and Vod's case: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4415201.msg39316856#msg39316856

Quickseller's list of users who condone violence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614573.0;topicseen


There are cases that I don't want to post or even talk about, and just let them be as is, because its really not worth looking. Evil has taken over this forum in such bad form, that I don't even want to continue reading on it. I spent 2 hours reading trust walls on people and its not good. DT members have done so much to at least keep the forum from sinking into the ocean of scams. People have been scammed from 1 cent to 4 million dollars(at least). So, for those who think that this place is just a fucking forum to earn money, get the fuck out of here. Its really sad to see the things that people do for money. 

I gathered around a lot of links, don't know if I should post them or not. Explaining them would take hours.
@xtraelv, for the cases mentioned in the OP, there are way more links, for example: A lot of people have called Vod a pedophile(including QS), and I believe there are threads about Gleb suing Cyber pinoy(?)  etc

Overall, for those who don't know much or anything about this: Don't do anything for money. Don't scam people. Just don't. Make your momma proud, at least.  Wink

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Speaking of Bitcointalk trolls, most members will admit that they missed the Legendary kwukduck. Its a continues love hate relationship between Bitcointalk and kwukduck, that sometimes when you read his post, it will give you a good chuckle.  Grin

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OP, you should mention notbatman and nomad13666. People should know that dumbfucks Flat Earthers exist in bitcointalk.

And also BADecker, for he believes that rocks are better than gay people. You can't prove him wrong, can you now?

Mentally ill troll: isoneguy

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2163283.msg21663616#msg21663616

Another user: Mixan

Threatening to Dox others and very short-tempered. Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1743036.0;all and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1743036.msg18103081#msg18103081

You should also mention that Spoetnik is obsessed with child porn.

How have you not alia and her big con attempt? Refer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31186468#msg31186468

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OP, you should mention notbatman and nomad13666. People should know that dumbfucks Flat Earthers exist in bitcointalk.

And also BADecker, for he believes that rocks are better than gay people. You can't prove him wrong, can you now?


Just be happy that these two trolls rarely crawl out from under the OT and P&S bridges!!!  My brain hurts at times from these two users.

notbatman gave me some neg trust, because I agreed with Vod once, fortunately the feedback is as irrelevant as notbatman himself!

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July 25, 2018, 01:12:09 AM
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Hey I'm not a troll, I will remember your name for the future when I post a thread about merit whores I will include your name to return the favor, just wait. Wink


Look, the above is trolling. I'd appreciate what you have done, posting this here might help theymos to wake up and see that some DT members are really abusing the trust system.
Trolling would be like going after a trusted member for doing completely nothing wrong, complaining about the actions of allegedly trusted individuals is not trolling.

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July 25, 2018, 01:58:28 AM
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And as the world turns, so do the days of our lives.

This one made me smile.  Grin When I was doing the OgNasty V _____ part I kept thinking of the old streetfighter arcade game "Round one....FIGHT !".


Hey I'm not a troll, I will remember your name for the future when I post a thread about merit whores I will include your name to return the favor, just wait. Wink


Look, the above is trolling. I'd appreciate what you have done, posting this here might help theymos to wake up and see that some DT members are really abusing the trust system.
Trolling would be like going after a trusted member for doing completely nothing wrong, complaining about the actions of allegedly trusted individuals is not trolling.

You might notice that the word troll has not been mentioned by me when your name was mentioned. It also was strategically placed near to the bottom so it wasn't inadvertently associated with any financial dishonesty.  I'd rate it more as dysfunction / flame war / feuding. I could run it as a poll....?

As for whoring for merit. Honestly it wasn't me. Sex for merit? Wink (Nothing to see here)

But if you do write about it I would gladly link to it on this page as long as you provide a balanced story completely in my favor and don't post any photos of me in my mankini from the Bondage, Discipline, Sadism and Merit website.

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August 04, 2018, 09:22:24 AM
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How about the Ann bumping thread scandal?

ICO SPAMMERS EXPOSED --> NEW SELF-MODERATED THREAD. A lot of accounts get caught in this expose including Legendary/Hero/Senior members. It was like a big fuss that time because of members giving up their alt account, just to get paid. lol.



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August 16, 2018, 02:20:27 PM
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aTriz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2751956.0
aTriz being naive and providing his signature to a scam

The exchange between aTriz and ibminer explains it.


It was a marketing strategy and they tried to say they raised so much in just a day or 2.

I doubt they raised anymore then 1 BTC.
You are ok with ICOs stating false information about how much they have raised to other potential investors... and you would call this a marketing strategy?


No, but when I'm 2 weeks into a bounty program I'm basically forced to go along with it.

This is nothing but deceitful nonsense. What you call a "marketing strategy", I would call fraud.

Scammer: a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
Swindle: to obtain money or property by fraud or deceit
Fraud: a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.

No, but when I'm 2 weeks into a bounty program I'm basically forced to go along with it.

No, you are not forced to do anything you do not want to do here, especially when someone is being fraudulent.


This was about him promoting a scam ICO and lying about them knowingly; the signature and alia thing were different.


P.S. I had seen the flat-earth thread; always thought it was a mega-troll thread and had never ventured in it...

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Just ran into this morsel of drama:  Default trust, accusations of murder, libel, it's got it all.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=858730.0

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September 06, 2018, 12:25:24 AM
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A brave attempt at analyzing a huge subject.

No reference to trolls on BCT would be complete without a mention of NotLambChop in his various guises.

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