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January 09, 2019, 04:32:36 PM
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Micropayments, using square codes, RFID, visual scanners, and crypto payments would conceivably enable every road to be operated and built by commercial companies.


Give me one example where commercial companies are more efficient than public funded companies.

Cause when I look at USA healthcare and French healthcare, all I see is US healthcare costs 50% more without bein more efficient or fair...

I could give you many such examples. The question is really ridiculous isn't it?

You've made a gigantic leap there from "roads" to "healthcare" and then to "all".

The US healthcare system is a mess BECAUSE of the lock that insurance companies and big providers have on the government. That's a Kapitalist-Socialist system illustrative of the evil that socialistic policy engenders, not the evil of capitalism.

If you want to ignore the institutional changes made possible by crypto coins and micropayments, go ahead.




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January 09, 2019, 04:36:18 PM
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I could give you many such examples. The question is really ridiculous isn't it?

You've made a gigantic leap there from "roads" to "healthcare" and then to "all".

The US healthcare system is a mess BECAUSE of the lock that insurance companies and big providers have on the government. That's a Kapitalist-Socialist system illustrative of the evil that socialistic policy engenders, not the evil of capitalism.

If you want to ignore the institutional changes made possible by crypto coins and micropayments, go ahead.

I'm not.

I'm just finding funny how you point out the evil of socialism while capitalism leads to the same thing...

Capitalism -> Capital gets rewarded -> Wealth gets concentrated at least temporary -> Individuals have the power to influence government and social rules -> your "Kapitalist-Socialist system"

Socialism -> More power to government -> At a point some individuals get most of the power with having selfish interests -> your "Kapitalist-Socialist system"

It's just that you put the blame on some kind of "socialism" while capitalism does the same thing just by another road.

Saying private companies would do better is stupid because the end result is the same.

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January 09, 2019, 04:47:29 PM
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I could give you many such examples. The question is really ridiculous isn't it?

You've made a gigantic leap there from "roads" to "healthcare" and then to "all".

The US healthcare system is a mess BECAUSE of the lock that insurance companies and big providers have on the government. That's a Kapitalist-Socialist system illustrative of the evil that socialistic policy engenders, not the evil of capitalism.

If you want to ignore the institutional changes made possible by crypto coins and micropayments, go ahead.

I'm not.

I'm just finding funny how you point out the evil of socialism while capitalism leads to the same thing...

Capitalism -> Capital gets rewarded -> Wealth gets concentrated at least temporary -> Individuals have the power to influence government and social rules -> your "Kapitalist-Socialist system"

Socialism -> More power to government -> At a point some individuals get most of the power with having selfish interests -> your "Kapitalist-Socialist system"

It's just that you put the blame on some kind of "socialism" while capitalism does the same thing just by another road.

Saying private companies would do better is stupid because the end result is the same.

It's not the same at all, but neither does this have anything to do with my comment about road funding and operation.

"Some individuals get most of the power (blah blah blah)" yeah some people are more skilled and capable that others.

Try to stick to the subject instead of meaningless generalities. Consider creating a village from scratch. Enterprising individuals go and build roads, and collect fees via crypto micropayments automatically. Never been possible before. Now it is.
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January 10, 2019, 05:59:58 AM
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Those "enterprising individuals" are now your government, but they answer to no one.  Those fees collected via microtransactions are your taxes except they aren't doing this for free.  They are going to charge as much as people are willing to pay in order to turn a profit. Your anarchocapitalist dreamworld is really just dictatorship by capital. 
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January 10, 2019, 12:38:17 PM
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Those "enterprising individuals" are now your government, but they answer to no one.  Those fees collected via microtransactions are your taxes except they aren't doing this for free.  They are going to charge as much as people are willing to pay in order to turn a profit. Your anarchocapitalist dreamworld is really just dictatorship by capital.  

I have not envisioned a utopia. Just noted that various possibilities exist currently, which have not in the prior history of civilization. In the past, many such things were "done by government," paid for by taxes collected. Now everything is changed.

In the past, this in part led to political theories such as communism and capitalism, and various gradations and nuances of them. Now there is for many of society's needs a third option.
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January 11, 2019, 01:21:34 PM
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Now there is for many of society's needs a third option.

I agree.

We had "all done by state" or "all done by private corp". Most systems going in between in a complicate equilibrium, always a bit shitty.

Now we have the "all done by ourselves cause we can be our own government".

I don't see downsides to this. I'm ultra left, I think it's the best possible thing. It's like communism, but actually working  Grin
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January 11, 2019, 05:44:19 PM
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Now there is for many of society's needs a third option.

I agree.

We had "all done by state" or "all done by private corp". Most systems going in between in a complicate equilibrium, always a bit shitty.

Now we have the "all done by ourselves cause we can be our own government".

I don't see downsides to this. I'm ultra left, I think it's the best possible thing. It's like communism, but actually working  Grin

I am interested in the ways that crypto currency can change society and our lives. Not really sure about which ways will prove with time to be superior, but am certain big changes are coming.

It's impossible for these not to have an impact on the traditional dichotomy of communism/capitalism and as you note, their interplay in any particular societal construct.
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January 11, 2019, 09:23:54 PM
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Lol!  As liberal and biased as NPR is, at least they value facts.  No matter how much the MSM attempts to spin the truth, the facts can't be hidden any longer.  One of their own just outed their lies:

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/27/670807343/fact-check-whats-happening-on-the-u-s-mexico-border

7000 invaders at the Tijuana border.  Thousands attempted to bumrush the border crossing in an attempt to "protest" the slow process of invading our country.

ROFLMFAO!  The double speak is palpable.

450 apprehended yesterday trying to cross the border, 25% are not from Mexico or Central America.
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January 12, 2019, 01:41:39 AM
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Yes, lets pretend again like it is obvious that you are right and I am wrong, then conveniently walk away without replying. I am sure it has nothing to do with a lack of an argument. No, you are just feeling casual I am sure.

Not casual at all.
This is self preservation. You're dangerous for the mental health of anyone with a brain so I don't argue with you. But that doesn't mean I can't pinpoint when you say really ridiculous things. Smiley

No, I know you aren't. You try way too hard and pretty reliably fall on your face almost every time. Interesting, why would any ideas be dangerous to your mental health if you already weren't unstable and basing your belief systems on lies?  Sounds an awful lot like you need to make personal attacks because you have zero factual arguments to reply with.
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