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March 16, 2020, 03:25:41 AM
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Well they have already started stealing. I'm in KFC, and they no longer put sugar, condiments,hand wipes or serviettes in the customer area. People were just filling their pockets with them. Somebody was caught in the Marks and Spencer loo trying to rip the sanitiser cream dispenser off the wall . It won't be long before we read of housebreakers stealing packs of loo rolls from peoples homes.

McDonalds has added an 8 stage hand washing instruction page over the basins in the loos. It includes illustrations in case customers don't know the parts of their hands like fingers and thumbs.

Yes yes, i see you guys are experiencing a little of what we had here for years. Indeed when toilet paper ran out, people started stealing it from anywhere, so then many places stopped putting paper and soap (and to use a public restroom, you'd better bring your own or else...) I remember when my (old) workplace stopped putting toilet paper (because the co-workers were stealing it), and also no more coffee. Get used to carry your own toilet paper in your bag...

Something you probably don't even know, most McDonalds here won't even let people in the restrooms unless they show proof of purchasing something first.

To live in a country sized prison, yes that's exactly what we feel too. Interesting how a little crisis are making you feel things for the first time you would normally never ever have felt in your lifetime. Next you need to experience: a hyperinflation.

This was also felt in the "second world" for decades, but you didn't know because that was censored. Ask any survivors of the eastern bloc and you'll know, ask about the queues, ask about the scarcity, and the black market, the corruption, the impossibility to purchase the simplest things with worthless money, etc.

Feel a bit of what the "third world" is like, but remember when the crisis is over for you, it won't be for us.

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March 16, 2020, 03:45:12 AM
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40 days sounds extreme for the length of a lockdown.

In a worst-case scenario involving a Chinese type lockdown...

It takes a maximum of 14 days to show symptoms of coronavirus, but most people will start showing symptoms after 2-5 days.

If the lockdown starts on day "1", after a week the military can go door to door to check for symptoms, those that show symptoms can be quarantined, the process takes about a week and is repeated after 14 days. This would mean that no additional spreading would happen after day "1" and all cases would be identified (and the lockdown could be lifted) on day 21.

I believe this is basically what China did in Wuhan. There are some videos on twitter of empty highways, and videos of pretty brutal police actions against Chinese citizens.

I don't know if this is something western (civilized) countries would be willing to do.  It would involve removing ~all freedoms from citizens for three weeks.
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March 16, 2020, 11:23:55 AM
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40 days sounds extreme for the length of a lockdown.

In a worst-case scenario involving a Chinese type lockdown...

It takes a maximum of 14 days to show symptoms of coronavirus, but most people will start showing symptoms after 2-5 days.

If the lockdown starts on day "1", after a week the military can go door to door to check for symptoms, those that show symptoms can be quarantined, the process takes about a week and is repeated after 14 days. This would mean that no additional spreading would happen after day "1" and all cases would be identified (and the lockdown could be lifted) on day 21.

I believe this is basically what China did in Wuhan. There are some videos on twitter of empty highways, and videos of pretty brutal police actions against Chinese citizens.

I don't know if this is something western (civilized) countries would be willing to do.  It would involve removing ~all freedoms from citizens for three weeks.

Military-style lockdowns work.  The problem is politicians do not have the balls to do them.

Sooner or later they will capitulate and agree to have a global military lockdown.

I suspect they will close the stock markets soon, keep the essential utilities/banking/health care services and food deliveries running as long as they can.

Without strict lockdown, in some projections, half of the global population will be affected.

Failure to understand the exponential function will lead to inaction or late response.



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