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August 06, 2020, 02:11:48 PM
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How could they let this happen? How exactly did this happen? Were they hacked?
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August 06, 2020, 02:19:31 PM
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It’s the people who are evil and using their powers and capacity to take advantage of what they could have and do what they can give in exchange for money. Hackers could have easily taken their time and exploit their carelessness and then the hackers are rich now.

What I’m worried about are the affected people. Is there someone here who voted as well? It’s pretty serious when this happens.

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August 07, 2020, 04:35:01 AM
Last edit: August 07, 2020, 07:58:04 AM by bitsurfer2014
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How could they let this happen? How exactly did this happen? Were they hacked?

If I'm not mistaken, there was no direct hacking involved in that particular incident rather some crafty people were able to connect certain data to  passport numbers of registered voters because of the flaws in the design of the system itself.
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August 07, 2020, 03:47:31 PM
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There are more and more technologies to design blockchain, but since then there have been more hacks to steal data and steal money from computer networks. Those are the mistakes stemming from the design of blockchain structure. We need to make quick adjustments before the worst happens. The hack is also a lesson for authorities to reconsider the application of information technology to voting.
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August 07, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
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If because of the incident online vote based on blockchain technology was successfully hacked and decided to return to the old ways.
So the advancement of technology will take a long time to develop, in fact we must not give up on using online voting. It is a technological
breakthrough that must be done, but many improvements must be made so that security can be improved. I am sure that if improvements
continue to be made, we will find ways to improve the security system so that online voting is not easily hacked.

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August 07, 2020, 05:06:32 PM
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So the problem is the alledged stolen private data of voters?
Well, I don't think important data like that should be handled in centralized manner. I guess the large hack means they are handled in centralized manner. And there is possibility it could be used by the hacker or the buyers for future election fraud.
Everyone should control their private data like we are expected to control our private keys. The private data should be very secured and close to impossible to hack in large numbers.
So you could blame centralization for this if the news is indeed true.
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August 07, 2020, 05:18:03 PM
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There were many cases where people were selling fake data leaks.

There were some fake ones from bitcointalk as well and those who bought them reportedly said that it was mostly fake or scrambled.

I'm pretty sure these people are trying to find someone dumb who will pay $1.5 for a stupid string of numbers. If it even is a real number of someobody's passport it doesn't mean anything. The number by itself is useless and there are much easier ways to get it.
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August 07, 2020, 05:24:23 PM
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If because of the incident online vote based on blockchain technology was successfully hacked and decided to return to the old ways.

Because it's something that the government needs to handle carefully, if this design of the
design got hacked they need to work on it and start collecting information how things take place,
they need to use the old voting system while doing it.

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So the advancement of technology will take a long time to develop, in fact we must not give up on using online voting.

It takes time but you are correct there's should be no stopping now but to keeps on improving it to make it more safe from the hacks.

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It is a technological breakthrough that must be done, but many improvements must be made so that security can be improved.

More on securities that's needs to focus to avoid more hacking like to happen in the future.

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I am sure that if improvements continue to be made, we will find ways to improve the security system so that online voting is not easily hacked.

It will lessen the chance of being hack knowing that hackers are not stopping to find ways and also keeps on improving to continue penetrating on their target accounts.
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August 07, 2020, 06:11:15 PM
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How could they let this happen? How exactly did this happen? Were they hacked?

If I'm not mistaken, there was no direct hacking involved in that particular incident rather some crafty people were able to connect certain data to  passport numbers of registered voters because of the flaws in the design of the system itself.

And this is the problem, the blockchain technology is here to make our lives easy, but if people who don't understand it at all try to use it, then it will have tons of vulnerabilities... they should hire experts to develop the voting system, and not leave it the normal programmers.

I even think this project should be done by vitalik buterin, that would be the right way.

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August 08, 2020, 09:43:22 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, there was no direct hacking involved in that particular incident rather some crafty people were able to connect certain data to  passport numbers of registered voters because of the flaws in the design of the system itself.

And this is the problem, the blockchain technology is here to make our lives easy, but if people who don't understand it at all try to use it, then it will have tons of vulnerabilities... they should hire experts to develop the voting system, and not leave it the normal programmers.

I assume it was developed hastily and maybe they haven't done or disregarded any extensive testing. I hope this incident will serve a lesson to all who wish to utilize the benefits of blockchain technology that they should make it more robust and secure as possible in order to avoid any future issues.


I even think this project should be done by vitalik buterin, that would be the right way.

It would be nice if they have hired people with extensive experience in that field in the likes of VB but even so, it would still take significant amount of time to develop such project to become efficient and effective. Imho.
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August 08, 2020, 11:19:28 AM
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Hackers are reportedly selling the personal data of over a million Russians who voted electronically, using blockchain technology, during the recent constitutional amendment process.

Over 1.1 million data points were stolen and put on sale for $1.50 each on the online forums, the Russian newspaper Kommersant wrote. The data, consisting exclusively of passport numbers, has little value on its own, the anonymous sellers admitted to Kommersant. But such data can be used for phishing attacks when combined with information from other leaked databases.

Moscow’s Department of Information Technologies, which is responsible for the design of the voting system, denied the report in an email to CoinDesk.

“The department is regularly monitoring the internet for publications of such data, including the darknet. The database mentioned in the publication has nothing to do with the list of voters who registered to vote online,” the department’s press office wrote, adding that the information on the Moscow city hall’s servers was properly protected and “there had been no leaks since the beginning of 2020.”



Remarkable is the fact that the database was available for purchase in early July, but the Moscow government denied this. However, as a result, the database appeared in the public domain.

https://www.coindesk.com/russian-voters-data-on-sale-after-blockchain-vote-to-keep-putin-in-power-report
Of course, the government will completely deny everything, since this is their job. No one admits that they really had a hole in the system. Perhaps this information is a throw-in, in order to distract attention and reduce the vigilance of hackers. Perhaps they have already left or security services have been following them for a long time. I wouldn't be so sure of the authenticity.

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August 09, 2020, 12:00:09 AM
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Hackers are reportedly selling the personal data of over a million Russians who voted electronically, using blockchain technology, during the recent constitutional amendment process.
This is what always we are worrying about due to the data were stolen. It is also what makes me personally worry about sending the document for the KYC process or another thing that needs the document for proving ourselves. However, sometimes, we cannot ignore the KYC process. We know that the companies will always ensure the security systems of the data, they will be safely stored on the system, moreover blockchain technology. But,t his is not the first time that hackers can hack the system and steal the data easily. More badly is that they sell our data for untrusted and irresponsible purposes.

So, what should we do right now? As possible as we can, we may ignore or avoid submitting data for any kind of requirements. But can it be?
Or we cannot ignore it 100% but we can avoid it as maximal as possible.


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August 09, 2020, 12:31:27 AM
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Electronic voting is pretty risky,it doesn't matter if it's conducted in Russia or the US.
It doesn't matter if it's based on the blockchain technology or some centralized technology.
Such voting systems can get hacked and manipulated.
Unfortunately the good old paper ballots are the still the safest way to vote(if the voting administration is out of the direct control of the government so the elections are fair).


The technology is still in the early phase and they just hurried it up to show something new to it's voters, afterall many things are going to be same it was for some time. A government built technology is often of low cost and quality and probably didn't wen through any penetration testing. But as they learn form the mistakes and keeps patching the holes, electronic voting system based on blockchain would be a norm within two decades.


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