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November 13, 2020, 09:57:01 AM
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Yobit.net and unnamed.exchange are curiously connected

I will make a full list of similarities and I will request people to add more points of similarities please.

NOTE: I do not know if my claims are right but after I saw the similar signature style I started digging and found some really important information which then inspired me to create this thread because if they are indeed connected the users might be at huge risk.

Sincere and unconditional apology to TillKoeln if I am proven wrong at the end and my allegations are wrong.


1- SSL certificate

Issuer : Both the certificates have been issued by Cloudfare Inc ECC CA-3

Yobit:(License valid from 04-09-2020 to 04-09-2021) http://prntscr.com/vhnjzk
Unnamed:(License valid from 15-06-2020 to 15-06-2021) http://prntscr.com/vhnk6a

They both have exactly 1 year license ... now what I mean by this is that when I checked the SSL certificate for Binance and Poloniex for reference, the license is not EXACTLY for 1 year for them instead it is odd like 1 year and some months like that which makes it a valid point that both these exchanges have certificates for exactly 1 year.


2- Similar operating style

Have a look at registration page and they exactly need those 4 details - Username/Login, Email, Password, Confirm Password.

Yobit: http://prntscr.com/vhnohk
Unnamed: http://prntscr.com/vhnoeg

Even, the button "I agree to terms/rules" and "I am not a robot" have the same order along with all those buttons.

You can visit Binance or Poloniex to check that how every exchange has different signup page usually so this is another key point.

Both exchanges do not require-KYC and feel proud about it

Yobit: https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1087380428883845120

Unnamed: https://twitter.com/exchangeunnamed?lang=en


3- Color Scheme

It's pretty obvious that both the websites revolve around similar colors if you closely look.

Both have EXTREMELY similar signatures as well which was mentioned countless times in their thread too.


4- Calling it Trollbox

Look at this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481722.msg28705457#msg28705457 clearly Yobit used to call it Trollbox that time and now unnamed also uses the name for their chat as Trollbox

very smartly they started calling it "Chat" on Yobit so that they can use Trollbox for unnamed.


5- Pump/Dump and the Ponzi

Yobit is very well known to Pump and Dump coins and the Ponzi scheme but the funny part is that TillKoeln also has some deep and long past with ponzi and pump and dump even supported the pumps as you can locate one of the many post here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1468142.msg14884892#msg14884892

TillKoeln has a long history with Yobit as well as he had a few coins of his own listed there.

Have a look here too - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1495387.msg32811311#msg32811311


6- Support for Yobit since start

You can see even his coins were given to people for free for chatting in the trollbox at yobit.

source - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1468142.0

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Hey guys :-)
see my latest project.
http://www.Trollpayment.com is released
you get paid for trolling the trollbox on yobit.

lets unleash the troll together :-)


7- Connection with pokerowned

pokerowned is marked as a scammer by reputed members of the community like JollyGood and others and it was concerning that his coin tip coin was added to unnamed exchange - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169406.0

What was more concerning is TillKoeln(owner of unnamed exchange) gave positive trust to pokerowned despite knowing that reputed members had given negative feedback to pokerowned .

Have a look here - http://prntscr.com/vhodn7


8- pokerowned part of the unnamed.exchange team

There were questions asked why they chose to keep the signature similar looking to Yobit and they never gave a clear answer instead pokerowned gave an answer whose post is now deleted but I catch that in another member's reply.

Watch the reply from pokerowned, a known scammer - http://prntscr.com/vhozqm

Source - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169189.msg53133505#msg53133505

Looking at the reply from pokeronwed it is quite clear he is a team member of the unnamed.exchange and it baffles me why they took a scammer in their team when clearly JollyGood's feedback was there even before pokerowned made that post.

post made by pokeronwed: November 20th 2019
Feedback from JollyGood: October 25th 2019

so why did they have a known scammer in their team?


9- Supporting the known and proven scam yobit despite being warned again and again

TillKoeln Vouching for PROVEN scam Yobit on 20th April 2019- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4416697.msg50683712#msg50683712

Why would you promote a scam when you are making your own exchange.

After being advised that Yobit is A SCAM he still was taking yobit's side without any real reason. When his own exchange is running, normally you will not promote competitors within your own thread when you are in that field and surely not scammers at least .... have a look https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169189.msg53117634#msg53117634


10-Yobit cares for Unnamed

The signature for Unnamed is identical to Yobit but when Yobit came back to forum, they changed their own signature and left to another forum instead of asking Unnamed to change theirs which sounds very strange because unnamed copied them.

Also when unnamed exchange was formed there were some vouches from yobit shills but those replies are deleted as you can see AdolfinWolf mentioned that in his post here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169189.msg51961393#msg51961393 which makes it even more dark why would yobit shills vouch for unnamed and I would be glad if someone can find those deleted posts or AdolfinWolf can recall what happened.

In case AdolfinWolf's post is deleted now, I have taken screenshot - http://prntscr.com/vhomzj

(I have screenshot and archives for almost everything so TillKoeln please don't edit/delete your or others posts)


I would like to know the community's opinion on this and I am once again sorry if the claims and allegations I am making are proven wrong because I am digging all this information and working hard just to make sure we don't have another yobit in the forum scamming users with a new name. In the process if I accuse someone innocent, please accept my unconditional apology.
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November 13, 2020, 12:10:53 PM
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And two more similarities-
1. They both used the same bbcode signature design. I have seen unnamed Exchange to use the same signature design as of the yobit one. Initially I thought they copied the signature design.
2. They both have been active in yobit forum- cryptotalk. If I'm not wrong, unnamed exchange were the first as exchange service to post ANN in cryptotalk which belongs to yobit.

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November 13, 2020, 02:30:15 PM
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I'm not exactly sure what happend there.

It could be that it were just people spamming threads with a yobit signature because it was in a period where every forum gangster was wearing one. (I'm not sure - i think Yobit had some special signature promo campaign at the time.)

But, they may have been instructed to post there, i have no idea. I'm not even sure what the thread looked like anymore without all the purged replies.


As for the unnamed exchange, again, it could be they have ties to yobit, but their design and site seems at least an order of magnitude worse... Uhh.. anyway... I have never really looked into it - i don't know.

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November 14, 2020, 11:25:28 AM
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I'm not trying to defend them, I don't like Yobit and I don't like unnamed.exchange also. But there is nothing serious and no clear evidence for your theory.

1- SSL certificate

Issuer : Both the certificates have been issued by Cloudfare Inc ECC CA-3

Yobit:(License valid from 04-09-2020 to 04-09-2021) http://prntscr.com/vhnjzk
Unnamed:(License valid from 15-06-2020 to 15-06-2021) http://prntscr.com/vhnk6a

They both have exactly 1 year license ... now what I mean by this is that when I checked the SSL certificate for Binance and Poloniex for reference, the license is not EXACTLY for 1 year for them instead it is odd like 1 year and some months like that which makes it a valid point that both these exchanges have certificates for exactly 1 year.

When you register a domain and set up it on the server, usually then activate free or paid SSL certificate for a year. these dates probably coincide with the domain registration date. It means nothing, 90% of active domains use SSL certificate year by year.

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2- Similar operating style

Have a look at registration page and they exactly need those 4 details - Username/Login, Email, Password, Confirm Password.

Yobit: http://prntscr.com/vhnohk
Unnamed: http://prntscr.com/vhnoeg

Even, the button "I agree to terms/rules" and "I am not a robot" have the same order along with all those buttons.

You can visit Binance or Poloniex to check that how every exchange has different signup page usually so this is another key point.

Both exchanges do not require-KYC and feel proud about it


many exchange offices have a very similar appearance. They can't make login page without asking for email address/username, password etc...
"I am not a robot" is from captcha provided by Google. I guess around us is who knows how much services which also use Google captcha with this slogan. it counts in the millions.
No-KYC, Does this mean that all exchanges who require KYC are from the same owner?
Both of these exchanges are very poor and try to work with as few requests as possible to attract users. Just imagine, if unnamed exchange starts to ask KYC, who will register there? Plus, they unnamed.exchange operates without any registered company or licence. (Just a few guys started the exchange in the garage on his personal computers)

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3- Color Scheme

It's pretty obvious that both the websites revolve around similar colors if you closely look.

Both have EXTREMELY similar signatures as well which was mentioned countless times in their thread too.

it is not the first time that someone has used a similar colour scheme like much more recognised competitor.
It's not the similar signature, they use one of old Yobit signature design, just change links and text inside.

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5- Pump/Dump and the Ponzi

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6- Support for Yobit since start

We already know that there is a lot of members who are support Yobit and his mode of operation.
they liked how Yobit make money so since they have no moral barriers, theyunnamed.exchange also want their share of the cake from there. they are certainly not the only ones.

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If I remember correctly, these users participate in Yobit signature campaign at the same time as they were promoting his unnamed exchange, and converted his signature earnings in his own promotions. As I say, probably because they started his service from "the garage" with zero starting capital.
At that moment, accounts like his are only accepted in Yobit campaign and it was a good pay rate.

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10-Yobit cares for Unnamed

The signature for Unnamed is identical to Yobit but when Yobit came back to forum, they changed their own signature and left to another forum instead of asking Unnamed to change theirs which sounds very strange because unnamed copied them.

when did you see any concern on Yobit part? do you know of anything good by Yobit? I do not. it has already been proven that they are not interested in the quality and improvements of this forum. They come here only when they need new victims for his scam.

in the end, I am sure there is no connection between these two services. the initiators of unnamed exchange obviously took Yobit as a role model, which speaks enough about their intentions in the future.
Also, I think Yobit have enough money to run a completely new exchange, with new design and it certainly would not be in such a miserable way.

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November 23, 2020, 01:36:40 AM
Last edit: November 23, 2020, 01:48:50 AM by TillKoeln
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lmao


you doesnt got the joke with "Join the cool kids"  or "start playing with the cool kids" ?  in the signature ?  Grin

edit: @OP,  long story short.   the answer to your question is, No
edit²:  Cool

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November 23, 2020, 11:17:25 PM
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You guys is so dumb!  Shocked Shocked Shocked
That actually an insult to compare Unnamed.Exchange to Yobit/YoShit  Cheesy Cheesy

The level of expertise held by the team at Unnamed is far more capable than the ones at Yobit. The shitcoins they have listed on Unnamed can actually be withdrawn  Grin Grin Grin

If you're going to compare this to any make sure you have a long enough time in the industry to make such bizarre claims  Cool Because if you did have any time doing this, you would have known that this looks more like a v1 of Cryptopia!! And you def would have known if you are around in the chats when the owner says it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

This make you look like a attention fiend  Shocked Shocked Shocked

 
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November 24, 2020, 07:46:17 AM
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v1

v1.1  Wink  the engine,  
but yeah i have to admit i had many expect ^^  on rumors and lukewarm research. but the OP surprised me

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November 25, 2020, 06:29:28 AM
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can we now talk about the reputation from the topic creator

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November 25, 2020, 10:41:15 AM
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I have briefly checked both websites for comparison since Unnamed.exchange is new to me and all I can say is they don't look similar. Yeah sure they have the same register interface but other than that the U.I. is totally different. Like when you visit Yobit you will automatically see their trading platform while visiting unnamed.exchange you will see a home page, color schemes are different as well where Yobit is using a lighter theme while Unnamed.exchange is using a darker theme.
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