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November 17, 2021, 08:47:17 PM
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China and North Korea are very alike but China is a country with a democratic state that is controlled by the communist party who's president is also a member of CPP. I don't know what's the motive of that certain party why they like to control almost everything inside that country but it's already very greedy that it comes to a point now that they're bullying small neighbouring countries in Asia.
That's is why almost every people in the mainland of China is moving to SAR namely Hong Kong and Macau because they're more safe there and they have freedom unlike when they're in the mainland.

Well, you shouldn't be saying this in vain! China, of course, is a country with a specific government and laws, but one should not compare it with a semi-slaveholding, absolutely totalitarian, rotten regime in North Korea. Complete strange declassed, devoid of self-respect, devoid of human values, people. How could you allow yourself to be brought to such a state !? At the same time, the whole value of life is to make a mess of someone, to shake the soldiers with decrepit weapons, decrepit hands. They cannot understand that they have become a kind of "zoo" at which everybody sometimes glances and think "yes, everything is not so bad with me, if you look at the people of North Korea" ... China will never sink to this!

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November 17, 2021, 10:35:15 PM
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China and North Korea are very alike but China is a country with a democratic state that is controlled by the communist party who's president is also a member of CPP. I don't know what's the motive of that certain party why they like to control almost everything inside that country but it's already very greedy that it comes to a point now that they're bullying small neighbouring countries in Asia.
That's is why almost every people in the mainland of China is moving to SAR namely Hong Kong and Macau because they're more safe there and they have freedom unlike when they're in the mainland.

Well, you shouldn't be saying this in vain! China, of course, is a country with a specific government and laws, but one should not compare it with a semi-slaveholding, absolutely totalitarian, rotten regime in North Korea. Complete strange declassed, devoid of self-respect, devoid of human values, people. How could you allow yourself to be brought to such a state !? At the same time, the whole value of life is to make a mess of someone, to shake the soldiers with decrepit weapons, decrepit hands. They cannot understand that they have become a kind of "zoo" at which everybody sometimes glances and think "yes, everything is not so bad with me, if you look at the people of North Korea" ... China will never sink to this!
Seems like i do need up to research on what kind of government does have on North Korea yet as you described it then it turns out to be that much mess
compared on what we are currently seeing on China.

Are you sure that China wont really be falling or sink into this one? You wouldnt know and basing up on what we are seeing then they do already
have that kind of behavior.

Doesnt matter though even how they would handle out their respective vicinity then its their own rules to make.
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November 18, 2021, 09:05:24 PM
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China and North Korea are very alike but China is a country with a democratic state that is controlled by the communist party who's president is also a member of CPP. I don't know what's the motive of that certain party why they like to control almost everything inside that country but it's already very greedy that it comes to a point now that they're bullying small neighbouring countries in Asia.
That's is why almost every people in the mainland of China is moving to SAR namely Hong Kong and Macau because they're more safe there and they have freedom unlike when they're in the mainland.

Well, you shouldn't be saying this in vain! China, of course, is a country with a specific government and laws, but one should not compare it with a semi-slaveholding, absolutely totalitarian, rotten regime in North Korea. Complete strange declassed, devoid of self-respect, devoid of human values, people. How could you allow yourself to be brought to such a state !? At the same time, the whole value of life is to make a mess of someone, to shake the soldiers with decrepit weapons, decrepit hands. They cannot understand that they have become a kind of "zoo" at which everybody sometimes glances and think "yes, everything is not so bad with me, if you look at the people of North Korea" ... China will never sink to this!
Seems like i do need up to research on what kind of government does have on North Korea yet as you described it then it turns out to be that much mess
compared on what we are currently seeing on China.

Are you sure that China wont really be falling or sink into this one? You wouldnt know and basing up on what we are seeing then they do already
have that kind of behavior.

Doesnt matter though even how they would handle out their respective vicinity then its their own rules to make.

Regarding North Korea - "you missed a lot of interesting things" ... Read, a very instructive story. Everything is "wonderful" there - from the leader to such total lies from state propaganda that it causes a real shock. The Chinese will not allow themselves to be brought to such a bestial state. And harsh regimes in China are already a historical habit. Regarding China, the only thing I admit is that if China now starts setting conditions and pretending that it is the most irreplaceable supplier on the planet, it will be a problem. The problem is first for the whole world, and then for China and for a long time. Market monopolization and normal trade policy are acceptable. Monopolization and setting conditions and threats is not acceptable. The second way is to destroy the Chinese economy and sharply reduce the standard of living of the Chinese ... And this is internal tension, right up to a violent change of power ...

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December 11, 2021, 01:10:07 PM
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Evergrande is bankrupt. $ 308 billion. Direct influence on entire segments of the global economy of China.
Kaisa Group Holdings is bankrupt. About 11 billion. The largest borrower in the market.

It seems that very soon we will witness a very loud bang and debris flying in all directions from the bursting bubble called "the Chinese economy". What do you think - what impact will this bubble burst have on the world economy, world production and trade?

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December 12, 2021, 10:15:05 PM
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Evergrande is bankrupt. $ 308 billion. Direct influence on entire segments of the global economy of China.
Kaisa Group Holdings is bankrupt. About 11 billion. The largest borrower in the market.

It seems that very soon we will witness a very loud bang and debris flying in all directions from the bursting bubble called "the Chinese economy". What do you think - what impact will this bubble burst have on the world economy, world production and trade?
perhaps the most felt is the price of goods produced by China will weaken and this will be an opportunity for its competitors and will also have an impact on economic inflation for countries that in fact cooperate economically with China.

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December 12, 2021, 10:25:08 PM
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Evergrande is bankrupt. $ 308 billion. Direct influence on entire segments of the global economy of China.
Kaisa Group Holdings is bankrupt. About 11 billion. The largest borrower in the market.

It seems that very soon we will witness a very loud bang and debris flying in all directions from the bursting bubble called "the Chinese economy". What do you think - what impact will this bubble burst have on the world economy, world production and trade?
perhaps the most felt is the price of goods produced by China will weaken and this will be an opportunity for its competitors and will also have an impact on economic inflation for countries that in fact cooperate economically with China.

This is true as a lot of countries are relying from China when it comes to their products (cheap products), but it is not the end of the line for those consumers. They can always find better alternative to these products, it may not be as cheap as coming from China, but maybe of better quality. People will always find a way how to survive so for me, even if countries will not get something from China, there will always be other doors that will open for them. The impact may be felt initially, but in time, they can always recover. Life goes on, they are not the ultimate reason why people can survive.
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December 14, 2021, 10:20:30 PM
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Evergrande is bankrupt. $ 308 billion. Direct influence on entire segments of the global economy of China.
Kaisa Group Holdings is bankrupt. About 11 billion. The largest borrower in the market.

It seems that very soon we will witness a very loud bang and debris flying in all directions from the bursting bubble called "the Chinese economy". What do you think - what impact will this bubble burst have on the world economy, world production and trade?
perhaps the most felt is the price of goods produced by China will weaken and this will be an opportunity for its competitors and will also have an impact on economic inflation for countries that in fact cooperate economically with China.

The development of the situation will depend on what steps the Chinese government will take in the near future.
They have already begun to clamp down on the free market. They still cannot decide what to do with a highly probable global crisis in the domestic market, and subsequent secondary problems such as unemployment, internal tension, global discontent. And the crisis is not far off. All this can lead to the fact that China will cease to be a stable and guaranteed supplier of many groups of goods and services, which means there will be an outflow of investors and consumers, which will "squeeze" the economy even more ...
Or if they help business, make more free legislation, take on part of the debt obligations, and help the market not collapse - then there will be a "storm in a glass" and everything will quickly calm down, and everything will return to its place.

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