Can a seed phrase on steel or titanium sheet survive this flood?

[tranthidung]

Steel or Titanium?

If its Steel it needs to be Stainless Steel and there are different grades of SS available for different
applications but generally SS does not corrode like mild or carbon steel.

Any other steel wouldnt be recommended because of corrosion.

The same goes for Titanium, it doesnt corrode so a seed phrase stamped onto either of those two
metals will survive a flood, i.e Water!

Lopp did his tests and wrote a review on Metal Bitcoin storage reviews

See the Corrosion tabs for more details.

The author provides a helpful sortable Google sheet too
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1poBdHCVrd5eErAWySjSBoKh2f_6VCHsy3ForvL8JCRE/edit#gid=197446072

[Saint-loup]

Yes actually the biggest danger of floods is not oxidation/corrosion as some people seem to think, but to carry away your steel wallet instead. That's why it's also important to strongly attach it to the ground or to a solid wall at least, especially if you don't keep it at a high place. But the most safe option is to put several backups in different locations far from each other.  

[dothebeats]

As long as the steel or titanium sheet is still intact, it can survive a flooding. The rust buildup due to the flood can be removed with the right tools anyway, but then it's better to make sure that the engraving on these steel or titanium sheet is deep enough to not get destroyed by the rust remover.

You can also just keep multiple copies of your seedphrase in different locations that you only know. Just use a randomized pattern for your seedphrase or a puzzle of some sort that you know and you will be safe from such natural disasters destroying your holdings.

[m2017]

It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

Physically (chemically) a steel (if stainless) or titanium sheet will withstand flooding (water), and the person who finds your seed phrase on it will thank you for such forethought. A piece of steel metal will rust in water and staying it in water for a long time will make the seed phrase unreadable.

In the event of a flood, the threat comes not from the impact of water, but from its consequences: when the water recedes, then with the ebb of the tide, unfixed objects can float away, even metallic ones, especially small ones like your sheet.

You can avoid this in a simple way:
- store the sheet on the upper floors or in the attic, where water ingress is unlikely;
or store it in the basement, from where the water will not go up when it decreases, but will remain below ground level, which means that the sheet will not float away being carried away by the current.
- be sure to fix the sheet on (or inside) stable structural elements of the house, such as walls, beams, foundations and the like.

[Marvelman]

This seems like a good alternative to a flood-resistant steel plate. I wonder what kind of tool I would need to engrave my seed phrase on something like this?



 

[Plaguedeath]

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

As I understand what the OP is trying to say, the OP is pointing out the disadvantages when we use steel plates to store seed phrase and they are hidden in the house or backyard. That shows that every method has its drawbacks and nothing is absolutely safe.
Your bracelet looks beautiful and quite secretive, but can you guarantee that if you encounter a strong impact it will not fall out of your hand? Don't be too subjective, everything has its risks.

Even there was no warn from the government, you don't have to panic because you need to wear the bracelet all the time, even you're sleeping, you're still wear the bracelet.

Every method has it's drawbacks, but this solution is the most safest.

If you see this solutions is too subjective, how about heavy flood that mentioned by @OP? it's also subjective since natural disasters didn't happen in every country and high unlikely to happen.

[shield132]

Flood isn't something that will occur randomly, your government should had warn the citizen for upcoming big flood. If I live in a country where extreme floods is nothing new, I would wear secret stash bracelet. Change the keys with laminated paper which I wrote my seed phrase, so it can resist against water.

No one will know if my bracelet contain almost all of my wealth.


https://www.yankodesign.com/2013/04/16/wear-your-secret-stash/

This is a great idea to keep private keys safe, there is a very low chance that someone will lose bracelet or will become a victim of theft because it looks like a very cheap bracelet. I think Rings are also a good way to store keys safely. If you use a micro printer to print private keys and somehow attach it to the ring safely, it can be a good way.

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

Erdogan arrested many building contractors because of that accident. The problem was that they were allegedly involved in shoddy and illegal construction methods. As far as I remember, the built quality was low and there wasn't a correct seismic analysis done.

[Outhue]

Stompix said it is a flood in Orenburg , Russia. There was flood in Dubai but not this image. But this does not change my question.

This was part of the flood in Dubai recently. The rain that should have fallen in almost 3 years fell in just one day and the whole of the city were flooded.



It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

To say the truth, even heavy metals will be swept away in this type of natural disaster, even if its kept in a iron box, this is the type of disaster where nothing will be saved from, but such things happen in countries where its possible, so if I am living in such country I will have to find a way to keep my recovery seed save.

Mind you, this disaster doesn't happen in a blink of an eye, water invades very slowly until it gets this big, so there will be a lot of time to take your neccesary stuffs and keep them safe, so if you have imprinted your recovery seed on stainless steel you need to grab it from the safe and end for a safer location.

Nature disasters are very common in some countries, you should be prepared for anything if you are from such countries, still, carving your recovery seed into a stainless steel is a very safe practice, to me atleast, these type of natural disasters don't happen in my country, unless a fire outbreak due to some incident, but its better to always be ready for anything.

[Marvelman]

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

Erdogan arrested many building contractors because of that accident. The problem was that they were allegedly involved in shoddy and illegal construction methods. As far as I remember, the built quality was low and there wasn't a correct seismic analysis done.

Unfortunately, these arrests are late and futile when such a disaster has already happened. That's exactly the construction mafia at work. I bet almost every country has that problem, especially if the inspections are inadequate and corrupt.

[Fiasem20]

Natural disasters have always been an issue on how to ensure our seed phrase are secured and in a safe location.Natural disaster like flood to be precise destroy lots of properties so it would be a good idea to write our seeds phrase on steel/titanium that cannot be destroyed by flood due it strong metallic properties.For the fact that steel and titanium cannot be destroyed by flood but it can be carried away by the water so it's in our position to keep our steel/titanium seed phrase in a safe place that's not affected by flood.And also seed phrase backup is very much important incase previous seed phrase are lost.