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August 15, 2022, 05:25:21 PM |
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I. Try to memorize your password.
Having your passwords stored in your brain can be stressful as you may have difficulties in remembering your password again especially when you have another password stored on the same brain. Memorizing your password can also lead you to expose it to hackers because in other not to forget it, you may be tempted to use it in other things and this can lead to lost or password exposure. The best I can advise you to do is to write your password in a metal then store it in a place where you alone has access to, my personal opinion though.
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I don't see password managers as a secured way because once your device is lost, you have lost access to your password managers also.
No! You can have backups in case something bad happens (e.g., you lose your phone/computer, disaster, mental ailness, brain damage) I use Bitwarden and I periodically do backup maybe thrice a month. What I usually do is exporting the unencrypted .csv file and store it on a multiple flash drives in separate secure location while the master password and its associated backup email is written on a laminated paper to keep it from wear and tear. With that, you'll have no reason that you lose access to your PM. I also that you can backup your Keepass database both on online and on physical storeage though. Making multiple copies of your passwords on paper make your password more vulnerable.
Maybe I am missing something, but I surely don't understand why making multple copies isnt good LOL. Because it increases the risk that someone finds it IMO. Moreover, your way of doing is only efficient for very tech-savvy people but most of users will never do that, or one or two months at most, and will give up. It's way too burdensome for the average Joe, for just an account on a crypto forum. Don't forget this iron law of opsec : Security at the expense of usability comes at the expense of security.For decades, the advice from information security experts was to change your passwords frequently and use numbers, capitals, and special characters. But we humans are bad at creating randomness, and we’re bad at remembering things. So inevitably people used simple words, names, birthdates, and sayings, swapping out letters with similar-looking special characters. Hackers can crack these kinds of passwords in a matter of seconds.
In an effort to make secure systems, the prevailing password advice actually made the systems less secure. Or, as the user AviD now-famously put it on Stack Exchange, responding to the XKCD comic: “Security at the expense of usability comes at the expense of security.” In other words, if your “secure system” isn’t easy to use, people won’t use it, negating the security benefit. [...] When you use passphrases, also keep the following in mind:
Four words should be sufficient. Five words is better. Don’t choose from the most common words, and don’t choose quotes or sayings. The words should be as random as possible. Use a unique passphrase for every account you own. That way, if one passphrase is ever exposed, the other accounts remain secure. https://protonmail.com/blog/protonmail-com-blog-password-vs-passphrase/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgs.xkcd.com%2Fcomics%2Fpassword_strength.png&t=665&c=h5IOM2RrPlpMmg)
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August 15, 2022, 06:35:59 PM |
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If you are guilty of this in this forum. The only direction I can give you are I. Try to memorize your password. 2. Don't leave your account steady online in any browser. It can make someone have access to it easily. 3. Always stay logged out. Only log in when you want to post or read some posts. 4. Make sure no one sees or knows your password when you are about to log in with your phone. 5. Don't login your account to someone's phone, all in the name you want to make a post. In case you do, make sure you log out after the post
1. I don't think that remembering the password is a good idea. People are terrible at remembering things like passwords, and it will probably prompt you to use the same password across numerous services, which is a major security risk. 2. Not necessary. There are other ways to protect your device from unauthorized use. You don't have to make things difficult for yourself. 3. Same as 2. 4. I agree. Password managers can also help here because you won't have to type the passwords every time. 5. I agree with this completely. I don't see password managers as a secured way because once your device is lost, you have lost access to your password managers also. Making multiple copies of your passwords on paper make your password more vulnerable.
Most password managers have the ability to synchronize across many devices, which means you can use the same password manager on your phone, computer... With a password manager, you can have a single master password that can be used to access all of your passwords across all your devices. The benefits of password managers are that they make it easier to access your many passwords, and they help you stay secure by ensuring that only you have access to your account. Password managers may not be the best solution, but it's certainly better than remembering your password or storing it unprotected on just one device that can be lost.
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August 15, 2022, 06:53:53 PM |
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If your friend's device is locked using one of the protection methods, there will be no problem for someone to find it and try to exploit the data recorded inside it. In any case, I advise you to tell us about your friend's profile so that we know that it is no longer owned by its owner in the case that your friend is unable to access his account again.
In some of the comments there are tips to recover your account using one of the addresses that he used previously and it was staked/unedited in one of the topics, but this is not enough if he also lost the email he used for registering his account for the first time on the forum. It will definitely be a complicated process anyway.
I also don't recommend trying to remember passwords all the time or using the same password on different platforms. This would be a disastrous step in the case of lost/theft of that data .
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August 15, 2022, 09:22:15 PM |
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That is why I always advise people to use a password that they can be remembering even when sleeping. Use something that very familiar which contain numbers, alphabets and signs which can not be forgotten. Those who forget login details for important sites are not serious even about their life. Someone even forgot his username for BTT. lovesmayfamilis, tranthidung and others I have you the way to create and secure a strong password through you to your friend and I also believe these information are also helpful to you as well. As Charles-Tim said, Memory is not a best place to keep password, because many things enter the brain in every second so if you keep keys in your memory you might lost it. I remember when I lost my mobile anti-theft password. That thing made to format the mobile phone and I lost everything in the phone so I have to download and installed all the apps all over again and videos and pictures were permanently lost out. Since then I have taken my caution.
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August 16, 2022, 09:02:36 AM |
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That is why I always advise people to use a password that they can be remembering even when sleeping. Use something that very familiar which contain numbers, alphabets and signs which can not be forgotten. Those who forget login details for important sites are not serious even about their life. Someone even forgot his username for BTT. lovesmayfamilis, tranthidung and others I have you the way to create and secure a strong password through you to your friend and I also believe these information are also helpful to you as well. As Charles-Tim said, Memory is not a best place to keep password, because many things enter the brain in every second so if you keep keys in your memory you might lost it. I remember when I lost my mobile anti-theft password. That thing made to format the mobile phone and I lost everything in the phone so I have to download and installed all the apps all over again and videos and pictures were permanently lost out. Since then I have taken my caution.
I received a mention of my nickname in telegrams. Agbe, I do not quite understand what you want to say? Someone forgot their name on the forum? Do you recommend remembering passwords or not? A continuous stream of thoughts that do not unite logically together. And where am I in your post and trathidung? What's wrong with us? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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August 18, 2022, 09:26:15 AM |
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Though it all depends on the users, i have face similar issues what i did was to go to chrome> Settings> security> Password > enter phone password and reveal the password use for btt that will really help alot. Make sure to synchronized your phone with PCs to avoid similar cases to occur. Next time you can try set a security questions on your account like; What is your age?; At this point only you knows your real age, If your suspect your friends knows your real age you minus or plus a year to your real age to make the security question very tough quess. What is your Provence?; You alone knows your provence What is your mother's name?; you alone knows your mother's real name.
All this for account security if you can't get access to your account remember your password.
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August 18, 2022, 10:43:06 AM |
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Very sad to hear but your friend's account can be recovered easily if he had set secret question or by using forgot password option.
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August 19, 2022, 05:26:32 PM |
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Memorizing your password can also lead you to expose it to hackers because in other not to forget it, you may be tempted to use it in other things and this can lead to lost or password exposure.
You're right. At some point I have just two or three different passwords for all my online stuff. It was either this or that and I made sure they were easy words to remember. I knew it wasn't a right thing to do but I lingered on it. A day came when I took a decisive decision and added more passwords; wrote them all down. The best I can advise you to do is to write your password in a metal then store it in a place where you alone has access to, my personal opinion though.
How easy and safe can that be? I've read people talk about that here but then I believe the print on the metal can wear out with time. Again, if anyone also lays hands on the metal (I believe it won't be a tiny piece), the password could be exposed. To be frank with you, no method is fool proof. They all have their bad side.
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August 19, 2022, 06:10:51 PM |
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The most annoying of it all is that whenever one is careless about his account or couldn't exercise patience enough but to log in through someone else's gadget, then the havoc they would have cause may not be limited to what an ordinary challenge could be, they might have implemented some settings and initiated so post using the account just in the name of implicating the user, people cannot just be trusted and one must be very conscious of his privacy at all times.
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I guess your friend @OP never attached too much importance to the account to have not used a password he or she could recall at any give time when called upon or maybe attached too much importance to completely randomise he's or her password that much to secure it away from even himself. Now there are two ways to have your account always logged in on the forum
1. You get to click the stay login box while trying to access the forum (Of course this will always keep you logged in so long as you visit the forum every now and then daily or in 2days) 2. You get to save your password to Google cloud (Upon visiting the forum, you just ont get to fill in your password as it would be done by auto)
Option one is phone specific and relatively safe but, a lost phone means your account is lost should you not recall your login details. Option two goes with your mail but not entirely safe as a hacked email could mean a hacked account. The only good news is, your login details could be reproduced where ever that mail is used (advantage/disadvantage).
While your friend tires the suggested means to an account recovery as have been suggested, its important you use what is memorable and difficult for others in password creation. There js nothing wrong if you login every now and then with your password. Your muscle reflexes could help you to recall the codes even when you slightly forget.
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August 24, 2022, 03:10:27 PM |
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That is why it is necessary and very important to link an active email address to a btt account, because if this happens to anyone, you can try to forget the password.
An easy way that you can recommend 1. Login BTT Account 2. Click Forgot Password 3. Select the option send code to email address
This can be done, as long as the linking email has access, so that the account can be reused and change a new easy-to-remember password.
But if the linking email is not accessible, it gets more complicated. Alternatively, asking for help from someone who understands the network, mobile email can be disabled.
Notes: 1. Always store passwords in a safe place 2. Don't create the same password 3. Use active email for bitcoin account
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August 25, 2022, 05:55:37 AM |
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These devices can be accidentally lost and if you have your btt login then it could be problem and some of them even have stored their passwords and other stuff in the phone also which is risky.For password you can use password mangers rather then memorizing it because human mind can sometimes forget things so it could be risky for you in case you don't remember the password if you have created lengthy one mix of number and characters.Write it down somewhere safe and use seperate mails for btt login to recover your account.
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Thats a big problem if he doesnt have spare copy of his password or account details aside from the phone. Its imperative to have spare copy that you can access anytime in case a situation like this occured. Or should write in papers all important accounts and keep it safe at home. Somebody can exploit your phone and once the hacker find it then he can use your account already. Also there is an email associated with the account he can use it to retrieve the account. Problem is if that as well is forgotten too.
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My habit when creating an important account and I will continue to use it is to save a backup password on a piece of paper or in my personal book, so that when I forget I open it again. but I try to remember every account password that I create and distinguish the password in each account or email that is created. it will provide a better level of security and solve the forgotten password problem. to log in using my cellphone, I just set up a temporary login or don't remember it on my cellphone, because of security problems and losing my cellphone as experienced by the OP's friend.
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Husna QA
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August 25, 2022, 11:46:31 PM Last edit: August 26, 2022, 12:25:29 AM by Husna QA |
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Tell your friend to first login his Google account on his new phone. The passwords on chrome are saved on the Google account, he can login from there.
Chrome does not save password automatically to your Google account, you'll be asked to give permission first before it proceed to either save or discard. And who knows whether the victim click on allow to save password or not? I usually create different passwords for multiple accounts. Sometimes they are randomly generated and stored using the iCloud Keychain feature ( https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204085). I can use the previously created account and password on my MacBook when accessing similar sites (using the Safari browser) on a smartphone with the Keychain feature. In addition, I use multiple backups for accounts and passwords in several different places. I don't know the Pokapoka124's suggestion can be used or not.
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September 25, 2022, 06:42:38 AM |
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You don't have to memorize your password, just find a good big note and write down your login information, this is what I do for all my login details, your phone can get lost at any time and also it's bad to use one password on all your accounts online, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, bitcointalk etc because if one of these get hacked the hacker will try the same password everywhere else.
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September 25, 2022, 11:27:45 AM |
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Actually this happened to me last week. I have logged in my account in a particular browser since I created it and I don't log it out. I always open the browser and use the forum without problems of logging in, solving captcha or related issues. Last week I got a new mobile phone which I only use outdoors due to some sensitive files I have in my main phone. So, I was out for 2 days and had a need to use the forum. Trying to login, I forgot my password and I didn't want to reset my password. I struggled for almost 15 minutes to no avail. Finally, I have to calm myself and remember how and when I created the account, I remembered the circumstances behind creating the account, from there I remembered my password ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 26, 2022, 08:58:54 AM |
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I don't see why you would establish an account and not commit your password to memory. I'm confident that your friend can still access his Bitcointalk account if he knows the email address he used to sign up for the account and he can still access Gmail. The only thing he needs to do is enter his username and click the "forget password" button and so he will be able to retrieve the password.
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September 26, 2022, 09:16:39 AM |
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I'm confident that your friend can still access his Bitcointalk account if he knows the email address he used to sign up for the account and he can still access Gmail. The only thing he needs to do is enter his username and click the "forget password" button and so he will be able to retrieve the password. Yes, that's a great solution if the friend referred by the OP still has access to his email. But I can imagine that his friend will be very easy to forget because of his habit of saving passwords in the browser without remembering them. The final solution I can imagine is, if the OP's friend has access to the wallet he used on the forums, he can recover his account with the help of a moderator or recovery team. He can sign messages to prove ownership of his account but I believe the OP's friend might lose his account if he doesn't keep anything.
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