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August 13, 2022, 08:31:33 AM
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There is this friend of mine that always has his Btt account on steady online on his phone chrome browser. According to him, the reason for that is to have easy access to his account.
Unfortunately, for him yesterday he lost his phone. The problem now is that he can't pinpoint where he wrote down his login password. He's now unable to memorize the password of his logins again

If you are guilty of this in this forum. The only direction I can give you are
I. Try to memorize your password.
2. Don't leave your account steady online in any browser. It can make someone have access to it easily.
3. Always stay logged out. Only log in when you want to post or read some posts.
4. Make sure no one sees or knows your password when you are about to log in with your phone.
5. Don't login your account to someone's phone, all in the name you want to make a post. In case you do, make sure you log out after the post


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August 13, 2022, 08:57:28 AM
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Tell your friend to try forgot password on the login page of this forum if he have access to his email.

Or if he had signed a message with bitcoin address before on this forum, or using the address he had used before on this forum in the past, like the one used to receive payment from a campaign manager campaign.

Recovering hacked/lost accounts

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You can forget what you memorize, even if you memorize it, only still rely on password backup.

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August 13, 2022, 08:57:38 AM
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I. Try to memorize your password.
Maybe? But only for not so important accounts. But still a bad advice.

Instead of memorizing it, people should be using Password Managers in storing their login credentials with multiple copies of paper backup of the master password secured in the safest place possible. And as far as I know, there are papers that says our brain is shitty in remembering and creating a strong password, hence suggesting PM's like Bitwarden or Keepass.

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August 13, 2022, 09:31:52 AM
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 #4

Instead of memorizing it, people should be using Password Managers in storing their login credentials with multiple copies of paper backup of the master password secured in the safest place possible. And as far as I know, there are papers that says our brain is shitty in remembering and creating a strong password, hence suggesting PM's like Bitwarden or Keepass.
I don't see password managers as a secured way because once your device is lost, you have lost access to your password managers also. Making multiple copies of your passwords on paper make your password more vulnerable.
If you can not memorize your password, then I'm sorry to say that it's not important to you. I backed up the idea of memorizing and make a copy to save in a vault. Apart from vault I'm yet to see a safest place to store security credentials.
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August 13, 2022, 09:34:00 AM
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There is this friend of mine that always has his Btt account on steady online on his phone chrome browser. According to him, the reason for that is to have easy access to his account.
Unfortunately, for him yesterday he lost his phone. The problem now is that he can't pinpoint where he wrote down his login password. He's now unable to memorize the password of his logins again

If you are guilty of this in this forum. The only direction I can give you are
I. Try to memorize your password.
2. Don't leave your account steady online in any browser. It can make someone have access to it easily.
3. Always stay logged out. Only log in when you want to post or read some posts.
4. Make sure no one sees or knows your password when you are about to log in with your phone.
5. Don't login your account to someone's phone, all in the name you want to make a post. In case you do, make sure you log out after the post


Tell your friend to first login his Google account on his new phone. The passwords on chrome are saved on the Google account, he can login from there.

I want to do add this to your list: Don't use the same passwords for multiple sites it makes it easy for your account to be hack. I also don't recommend using a very difficult password you may also forget it.

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August 13, 2022, 09:39:28 AM
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Phones can get lost or stolen, Firmware OTA updates can ruin your phone and you will be forced to reinstall OS again, the solution is writing passwords down in a book, either for BTT, exchanges or emails, this is the smartest move.
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August 13, 2022, 09:55:06 AM
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Tell your friend to first login his Google account on his new phone. The passwords on chrome are saved on the Google account, he can login from there.
Chrome does not save password automatically to your Google account, you'll be asked to give permission first before it proceed to either save or discard. And who knows whether the victim click on allow to save password or not?
Sometimes, getting access to your email is very difficult after losing your phone because your new password will be sent to the number attached to your email. This is why I attached both the numbers and email of my next of kin to my email just in case like this occur.
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August 13, 2022, 10:39:12 AM
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As long as you have the credentials needed to make a verification that is your friend's account there's no worry about it, that's why even though the email use is important for your to change your password easily and for sure your friend save those password in their browsers most of the feature of the search engine right now saving the information you inputted so you don't need to make problematic. Also if you have concern with your account Charles-Tim already give the thread you need.

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I don't see password managers as a secured way because once your device is lost, you have lost access to your password managers also. Making multiple copies of your passwords on paper make your password more vulnerable.
If you can not memorize your password, then I'm sorry to say that it's not important to you. I backed up the idea of memorizing and make a copy to save in a vault. Apart from vault I'm yet to see a safest place to store security credentials.
That's why you need to separate your device and copied it to all your device to prevent from this kind problem, secondary phone is very important and I don't think everyone can't afford to bought two phones while most of cell phones are cheap.
If your password are very secure, full combination of capitalize, number, symbol etc it's almost impossible you will always remember your password. More importantly you shouldn't using one password for all platforms to make it more secure.

Bank vault isn't safe since they can read your password, it's better to make your own steel plate contain your password.


To @OP don't ever login your password to your friend phones, even you've logout, the keyboard could still remember your password.
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August 13, 2022, 10:53:07 AM
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Nowadays, most people who regularly use a computer or work phone use a password storage application using 3rd party applications, or at least save it right in the browser and just log in is that we can recover the password easily.

If your friend doesn't have any of the above, we can reset the password using the email registered with the account.
Don't tell me he stores all the important stuff on his phone and doesn't have any other backups. He is a bitcoin user so I trust he will know how to secure his important documents. If he really is the owner, it shouldn't be difficult to restore them.

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I. Try to memorize your password.
You should not do this.

Because if your approach is memorize (remember) your password, it is very likely that you will use a same password for many accounts, on many platforms. That's odd enough.


In addition, in Bitcointalk, you should sign a Bitcoin message from your non custodial wallet

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Your friend should not be over confident of storing something on his phone when anytime it could be gone in second especially when it has important files in it. I bet it's not just the BTT account that's been compromised here since it's a phone I'm sure his any other social media accounts is compromised but if your friend is too wary about of his accounts he could just use other device or PC to reset his password on those any social media accounts so that it will automatically log them out.

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I see no reason why you will create account and you won't memorize your password, that's kind of bad.
If your friend knows the email that he used to register the account and he can still access the Gmail, am sure your friend can still access his Bitcointalk account. The only thing he will do is just to input his username and click on forget password, the new password will be send to his Gmail, but if he those not have access to his Gmail, maybe he can't also remember the password to his Gmail, I think his Bitcointalk account is already gone, I don't think their is anyone we he can recover his account.

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August 13, 2022, 04:28:18 PM
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Why don't you go for the best possible solution like click forgot your password? and then proceed to rest the password via email but remember he need to have access to the email which he saved under the profile.

And this is not only for bitcointalk, if you're bad at remembering your password then go for trusted password managing apps but I simply used to keep me logged in and I know I am the only person who is going to access the device.

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Using bitcointalk on phone since years on mobile.

1) For password safety, you could use password managers but do memorize password manager's password  Tongue

2) Always stay logged out is too much hassle, use phone lock.

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yep, I agree with what Findingnemo wrote if your friend only forgot the password he can just change the password by clicking "forgot the password". If I remember correctly you only need your account's user name or the email you used on that account(but he needs to have access to that email), if he has a secret question, he'll need to answer that, but if he doesn't, he'll only need the email or the user name of his account.


Why don't you go for the best possible solution like click forgot your password? and then proceed to rest the password via email but remember he need to have access to the email which he saved under the profile.

And this is not only for bitcointalk, if you're bad at remembering your password then go for trusted password managing apps but I simply used to keep me logged in and I know I am the only person who is going to access the device.

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All chromium-based browsers allow their users to log in to their google account. If your friend was logged on his mobile chrome browser and had enabled save password mode then he can access the password on any device. All he needs to do is simply login into his new device with his same google account then go to settings>>autofill>>password and it will show all passwords saved by him. You do not need to remember passwords in the 2022 if you know how to use tech.

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Now, after the tips above, you and your friend have a lot of guides on handling and storing passwords. Remembering passwords means having very vulnerable passwords that can be easily guessed. Use strong passwords, don't trust the Chrome browser, and don't save cookies in your browser. The fact that people temporarily trust saving is very easily broken if spyware is somehow installed on the phone.
Therefore, treat the resources vital to you on the network very carefully, namely, always have a backup copy cut off from the web.

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I don't see password managers as a secured way because once your device is lost, you have lost access to your password managers also.
No! You can have backups in case something bad happens (e.g., you lose your phone/computer, disaster, mental ailness, brain damage)

I use Bitwarden and I periodically do backup maybe thrice a month. What I usually do is exporting the unencrypted .csv file and store it on a multiple flash drives in separate secure location while the master password and its associated backup email is written on a laminated paper to keep it from wear and tear. With that, you'll have no reason that you lose access to your PM.

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Making multiple copies of your passwords on paper make your password more vulnerable.
Maybe I am missing something, but I surely don't understand why making multple copies isnt good LOL.

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The problem now is that he can't pinpoint where he wrote down his login password. He's now unable to memorize the password of his logins again
He can always reset his forum login details and receive new one in his email.

Try to memorize your password.
That is a bad advice.
Your brain and memory is bad place for storing data and it's not reliable, on top of that, nobody can remember passwords for all accounts.
Much better option is to use open source passwords managers like KeePass that stores all passwords, so you only need to remember and backup one password.
This can be used on phone (KeePassDX) and on computer.

Always stay logged out. Only log in when you want to post or read some posts.
You know you can always lock your devices in stand by and demand pin code for access.

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