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October 05, 2021, 06:05:06 PM
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I wonder how often you need to clean it if you use it 24/7.
Too often Sad And my replacement fan doesn't do a very good job, I don't like baking my GPU at 80 degrees (when searching for vanity addresses).
I wonder what will happen first: a phone with a fan, or standard laptops without them.

Phone with a fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LUt89E-OY0
Side note about my nodes in a box: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364113

As for running your laptop 24/7 I have a couple that I have run into the ground that way, but mostly from me not really being there.
One of the larger issues with this IMO, is that the fans are small and not that great so as they get clogged / less efficient, they try to run faster.
Sooner or later I find they do spin themselves into oblivion.

If they are not running where you can hear that happen, the laptop will overheat and shutdown.
Replacing the fan on most laptops is not that hard. But, you usually have to go and order the parts supplier someplace.
For a regular PC or RPi just about any computer store is going to have one.

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October 05, 2021, 06:30:47 PM
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I wonder how often you need to clean it if you use it 24/7.
Too often Sad And my replacement fan doesn't do a very good job, I don't like baking my GPU at 80 degrees (when searching for vanity addresses).
I wonder what will happen first: a phone with a fan, or standard laptops without them.

Phones with a fan existed few years ago - I remember seeing a "gaming phone" with a fan... found it: "Red Magic 3" from 2019.

There are fanless laptops, here is a list from 2018 (or 2019?).
MacBook Air with M1 processor is fanless as well. It happened almost an year ago. Do you consider it "standard laptop"?

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October 05, 2021, 07:47:45 PM
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Search for "fanless laptops" Smiley
No I won't, they are heating like crazy even if they have fans, and like I said before I am much more a fan of RaspberryPi devices, that are cheaper, smaller, and they don't produce any noise.

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October 05, 2021, 08:28:47 PM
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Search for "fanless laptops" Smiley
No I won't, they are heating like crazy even if they have fans, and like I said before I am much more a fan of RaspberryPi devices, that are cheaper, smaller, and they don't produce any noise.
Well, modern ARM-based laptops that run without fans, are basically a latest-gen Pi with a screen and keyboard. It's both ARM and thus very energy efficient, so they are not producing too much heat. This means they can cool themselves using the chassis as a passive heatsink and run a very long time on battery.

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October 06, 2021, 11:19:13 AM
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If you want fixed IP/address, you could use VPN (which support port-forwarding) or Tor (using onion address).

I only mentioned IP addresses as I was presuming that a person would want other nodes to open channels to their own box "in the wild", otherwise it would be just outbound connections to whomever you thought would make a suitable connection to open a channel to.  (In the wild would enable more randomness of locations your node would be connected to).

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October 06, 2021, 11:28:06 AM
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There are fanless laptops, here is a list from 2018 (or 2019?).
MacBook Air with M1 processor is fanless as well. It happened almost an year ago. Do you consider it "standard laptop"?

Most of the fanless ones don't have a physical network port so you are dangling something off of the USB for physical connection.
And they tend to have smaller drives. For the Apple ones, they are so overpriced that you can get 3 bitcoin machines for the price of 1 Apple

Well, modern ARM-based laptops that run without fans, are basically a latest-gen Pi with a screen and keyboard. It's both ARM and thus very energy efficient, so they are not producing too much heat. This means they can cool themselves using the chassis as a passive heatsink and run a very long time on battery.

But, yes again 256GB drives at most for many of them and no physical network connection.

Not surprising, laptop isn't good option if you're looking for fanless/noiseless device with 24/7. Barebone PC (such as Raspberry Pi and Intel NUC) is better option due to better ventilation.

NUCs are not always cheap or fan-free. I have a few of them at client sites sitting behind monitors.



I think the loop here keeps coming back to is 'the correct tool for the job' RPIs have many things they can do well, and many things they don't do well. You really don't want one for gaming, or as a desktop replacement if you are working on massive spreadsheets, etc. For things like being a node, they do work well.

Small fanless laptops are easy to carry for travel, carry around campus and whatever else. But they tend to have to make compromises like smaller drives and less features in order to make them smaller and lighter and extend battery life for a limited size battery. For the ones that don't the price becomes an issue.

Full size desktops and laptops are well, full size desktops and laptops which is not what this thread is about.

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October 06, 2021, 12:26:49 PM
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If you want fixed IP/address, you could use VPN (which support port-forwarding) or Tor (using onion address).
I only mentioned IP addresses as I was presuming that a person would want other nodes to open channels to their own box "in the wild", otherwise it would be just outbound connections to whomever you thought would make a suitable connection to open a channel to.  (In the wild would enable more randomness of locations your node would be connected to).
You actually don't need a fixed IP for people to connect to you and no port forwarding either, since all connections in Bitcoin are full duplex.

For Lightning, just make sure it always announces its current IP, be it static or not. (it can change; just need some script or so that adapts it accordingly - or dynDNS could be used, not sure). Or simply use IPv6 / Tor which 'stay the same' out of the box.

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October 13, 2022, 01:07:29 PM
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I just received a message from one member who told me that he placed an order and he didn't receive any reply from their support even after he contacted them several times.
I don't know if they turned out to be a scam or not, but I also sent them a message to ask what is happening, and I didn't receive any reply.
They used to work with Umbrel, but I didn't check any updates for a long time, but their twitter account seems to be active.

Please be careful with this website, and if you can help contacting them than please post any information you have below.
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October 14, 2022, 04:03:17 PM
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I just received a message from one member who told me that he placed an order and he didn't receive any reply from their support even after he contacted them several times.
Someone else had" a similar issue 8 months ago" and it seems that you have to contact them a few times on "Twitter [as opposed to their email]" to get their attention.
- It's worth noting that "they shipped to someone 8 months after he/she placed the order" and that perfectly shows what kind of company is behind its operations [SMH]!

I don't know if they turned out to be a scam or not, but I also sent them a message to ask what is happening, and I didn't receive any reply.
Personally, I don't trust them, but any update on this?

and if you can help contacting them than please post any information you have below.
- The Twitter handle of their product head is @PraneshDevaraju
- It seems that the company that's behind it [DOIDO Technologies Pvt Ltd] has moved its domain from "doido.in" to "doidotech.com":


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