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October 15, 2022, 06:31:20 PM
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In my view, gaming has nothing to do with gambling. This can also be the pitfall for gamers, who think they have an advantage because of their gaming experience. If you're really going to gamble, it doesn't matter how much experience you have in gaming. We all know you're not going to make it against a casino in the end. With gaming you are in principle in control and you are responsible for the end result through your own input. That is not the case at all at a casino. There are also many gamers who have tried their luck at poker, but most without success.

Games are not made to lose you in the long run. In normal games, you clear up levels and attain the highest characters and powers in the game. Game developers earn money through ads and other stuff and they are not worried about your progress in the game.

Gambling is a little different, as the intention is to earn the money right for the beginning. The gamblers are more interested to gain money and are not too worried about the fun part. The fun is usually linked with the money in gambling. As long as you are winning, you will have fun.

A gambling house's main source of income is the money that you put into wagering. So they won't let you win and gambling houses are also there to make money.

It depends on the type of game really, as many games will have a skill cap on the player - either in their ability to be faster physically than other players, through to the hardware that more privileged gamers are able to afford to even richer players being able to buy many perks without thinking twice about the real money cost. Not every game is designed equal and developers are getting a lot more manipulative in how they structure the play. I kind of disagree that gamblers are not interested in the fun part of the game, it is actually the very root of why they are playing - the buzz they got with the first few wins triggered that rush of happiness endorphins which is a feeling they are chasing every time they go back to play.

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October 16, 2022, 09:53:39 AM
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A casino will always win over the gambler and been an experience gamer as you've said does not makes any good advantage in winning over a casino because they are two different things, playing games is not real, cwn be manipulated and also enhanced but if you're gambling, you realized that something is at stake which is your money and the skills used in playing games cannot be applicable with that of gambling.
Playing games is for real. Games in the casino are one of them and that's why it's real because we deposit real money and we withdraw with real money or cryptocurrencies that they support. The difference from the traditional games that we grew up, it's for fun and no money at stake although we have the same reason why we gamble these days and it's also for fun but can't deny the true thing that we're also aiming to win with those games that we play.

(both) I think you have a crossover on the concept/use of the jargon in the niche with word  "real" .
In any Casino there are two versions to differentiate them online and offline, in offline there is no possibility of playing with play money, you play with real money, in online casinos there are two options real money or play money.

Now, in either of the two cases, if they use the adjective "real" they must use it correctly according to the jargon, because they confuse the issue of "transition" that really has to do with the skills in one case (Gamers) + the money they earn in that niche with transferring his skills to the casino environment.

I named a player, who became a world champion as a Gamer, they paid him for that, I also know professional Chess players who have switched to Poker, definitely in both cases it is a transition.

The issue of whether you do freeroll as a gamer or freeroll (play money) in a casino, which is the issue as they should call it because in the etymology of the word both are real games, that is, real players, regardless of the environment where it happens.

I hope you understand the point of the jargon, so this guys (gamers) they need transition based primarily on their skills in the niche to which they belong.

Then, one player "A" is not in the casino environment, "the Gamer, " so, if he does freeroll or receives payments, he needs to test if he can make the transition to casino games, and in the case of those who are already in a casino but only play with play money they also need to that transition, both in practice are players real...

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October 16, 2022, 11:55:54 AM
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And so you mean just because the game involves money, then it could also be considered gambling?
Though gaming and gambling may have few similarities, but this one doesn't make enough sense to me, If I understand you correctly.
I think the user doesn't mean the way you understand it.

If we try to be specific, if the gamer tops-up money for the purpose of trying their luck at the gambling part of the game, which is by trying the roll or spins with the chance of getting good items, then that's what we call gambling.

Generally, doing top-ups on the game does have different purposes.
If a gamer have topped-up for the sake of trying some loot boxes to win some items that has greats stats, then I don't entirely think that it will fall under gambling exactly, more like borderline gambling, especially if those items does not have any monetary value.

But still, do you consider yourself a gamer if you mostly play on minigames such as lootbox opening and gacha?
Most gamers I know deposit money or buy coupon codes for the games they play to buy some items that can improve the performance of their player characters. And most of these items are very rare in the market and only a few can have it mainly because of the high price. Maybe we need the opinion of a gamer who loves the game and often buys items in the game market so that we can know whether they deposited their money because they wanted to buy those rare items or if there was indeed a part of the game that was a lootbox or box. a mystery that contains rare items that must be purchased using money. If so, that would include gambling because we don't even know what's inside the mystery box.

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October 16, 2022, 10:44:46 PM
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But still, do you consider yourself a gamer if you mostly play on minigames such as lootbox opening and gacha?

If I have to answer this question, yes, of course, I'm still a gamer that way.

The purpose of spending that money on loot box or gacha is to try luck in getting a good item to improve our character.

I don't see why it can't be considered a gamer just because they are taking their chances mostly on gachas. For sure while playing mostly those minigames or the same kind, they are also spending time grinding. That should be obvious.

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October 16, 2022, 11:23:17 PM
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A gambling house's main source of income is the money that you put into wagering. So they won't let you win and gambling houses are also there to make money.

Some people, gamers or not, are carried away when they hit their beginner's luck during a session in an online casino. Since they won right away, they will think that playing in an online casino is profitable and that making profits is just that easy.

They didn't know that those experiences are actually bait for them to continue gambling. Since they want to experience that winning experience, they won't stop chasing that feeling and that's it, the start of an addiction.
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October 17, 2022, 03:22:04 PM
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A gambling house's main source of income is the money that you put into wagering. So they won't let you win and gambling houses are also there to make money.

Some people, gamers or not, are carried away when they hit their beginner's luck during a session in an online casino. Since they won right away, they will think that playing in an online casino is profitable and that making profits is just that easy.

They didn't know that those experiences are actually bait for them to continue gambling. Since they want to experience that winning experience, they won't stop chasing that feeling and that's it, the start of an addiction.

I think that gamers can easily transition to gambling if they know how to control their greediness and emotion when playing with their money. And, we know that some gamers are really good at strategy games but it's different if we are talking about getting money on the game and maybe a 1% chance of winning a gambling game.

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But still, do you consider yourself a gamer if you mostly play on minigames such as lootbox opening and gacha?

If I have to answer this question, yes, of course, I'm still a gamer that way.

The purpose of spending that money on loot box or gacha is to try luck in getting a good item to improve our character.

I don't see why it can't be considered a gamer just because they are taking their chances mostly on gachas. For sure while playing mostly those minigames or the same kind, they are also spending time grinding. That should be obvious.
Fair enough, logically there are those gamers especially streamers and pro players that will spend a ton of money for the sake of having those limited and great stats items to boost their account or character.

However, what I mean by my question are those rich players who seldom plays and grinds the game but are always active when there's a new Gacha or Loot Boxes available. Will you still consider this type of player a gamer?

I've encountered both types of players and I never considered the latter player a gamer but rather a spoiled or rich dudes flexing their account.



Anyways, As for the main topic, about transitioning from a gamer to gambler, I guess one way to incentivize your gaming experience is by gambling on E-sports related matches as you'll be able to analyze better and see through the game better than a normal gambler.

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October 17, 2022, 06:44:11 PM
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I think that gamers can easily transition to gambling if they know how to control their greediness and emotion when playing with their money. And, we know that some gamers are really good at strategy games but it's different if we are talking about getting money on the game and maybe a 1% chance of winning a gambling game.
Based on my understanding of the OP, this kind of transition is easy, it doesn't require much effort since the gamer has already understood how to work around the game. Such would only be gambling on what he knows unless the OP refers to another aspect of gambling that does not require a direct contention through playing games. Either one it is, proper knowledge of how to gamble is required, while the betting should be well calculated and managed under the right gambling psychology. Nonetheless, starting with a little amount that will be increased gradually is a good plan too.

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October 21, 2022, 07:14:13 PM
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If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?
Which gamers do you refer to? Online gamers?
Of course, it will be easy for online gamers to adapt to casino/gambling games because those are online games as well.
But if we consider the motivation or mindset of gambling games, it is a bit different. A gamer cannot think to play casino/gambling games as often as possible because it requires money. It is not the same as free online games, we should have good time management and money management for casino/gambling games.



What I understand is that the transition from a physical or traditional casino player to a crypto casino player, which is what brings with it everything related to technology, profits, everything that has to do with connecting to the technological tools of the site, the platforms are currently very friendly, but since there are some platforms that have so many things, that sometimes it is necessary to play in DEMO mode so that you can have control of each tool that is presented, all this has a logic and that logic is for me the biggest challenge that a player who comes from a normal traditional casino to a digital one has to learn.
But still, do you consider yourself a gamer if you mostly play on minigames such as lootbox opening and gacha?

If I have to answer this question, yes, of course, I'm still a gamer that way.

The purpose of spending that money on loot box or gacha is to try luck in getting a good item to improve our character.

I don't see why it can't be considered a gamer just because they are taking their chances mostly on gachas. For sure while playing mostly those minigames or the same kind, they are also spending time grinding. That should be obvious.
Fair enough, logically there are those gamers especially streamers and pro players that will spend a ton of money for the sake of having those limited and great stats items to boost their account or character.

However, what I mean by my question are those rich players who seldom plays and grinds the game but are always active when there's a new Gacha or Loot Boxes available. Will you still consider this type of player a gamer?

I've encountered both types of players and I never considered the latter player a gamer but rather a spoiled or rich dudes flexing their account.



Anyways, As for the main topic, about transitioning from a gamer to gambler, I guess one way to incentivize your gaming experience is by gambling on E-sports related matches as you'll be able to analyze better and see through the game better than a normal gambler.

I think something, both games sometimes give money, and you play for money, so here the key to all this is that every time you go to play and make a transition, you must take into account something that very few say, but It's those "customs", you know very well that some players spend a whole day glued to playing and having fun and yes, for them it is the best, and when switching to a casino system, where the games are very fast and in a way violent over time, it is something that can hit them a lot, besides the only thing that can keep them excited is that the interest will become only for money.

I think that gamers can easily transition to gambling if they know how to control their greediness and emotion when playing with their money. And, we know that some gamers are really good at strategy games but it's different if we are talking about getting money on the game and maybe a 1% chance of winning a gambling game.
Based on my understanding of the OP, this kind of transition is easy, it doesn't require much effort since the gamer has already understood how to work around the game. Such would only be gambling on what he knows unless the OP refers to another aspect of gambling that does not require a direct contention through playing games. Either one it is, proper knowledge of how to gamble is required, while the betting should be well calculated and managed under the right gambling psychology. Nonetheless, starting with a little amount that will be increased gradually is a good plan too.


Well, we also have to see something, if each person is different, thinks differently, we cannot buy that we will all have the same reactions to various situations in life, obviously a transition for some will be without any kind of attachments, it will be easy, your Assimilation goes hand in hand with what they think and do, but for others it does affect them emotionally, mentally, they see that it is not the same, sociology does play a great role and even the psychology of each person, everything is very different, maybe op has a different vision of what all this could mean for a particular person or for himself, but if there is a big change in the transition, it does affect.

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October 21, 2022, 09:38:09 PM
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Some people, gamers or not, are carried away when they hit their beginner's luck during a session in an online casino. Since they won right away, they will think that playing in an online casino is profitable and that making profits is just that easy.

They didn't know that those experiences are actually bait for them to continue gambling. Since they want to experience that winning experience, they won't stop chasing that feeling and that's it, the start of an addiction.

I think that gamers can easily transition to gambling if they know how to control their greediness and emotion when playing with their money. And, we know that some gamers are really good at strategy games but it's different if we are talking about getting money on the game and maybe a 1% chance of winning a gambling game.
I think some gamers will require to make some adjustments to their attitudes they have when gaming which will make them lose a huge mount if they are gambling, and I am talking about their desire to win, people play video games for fun but gamers are beyond that, they play the game more than the average person in an effort to be better than others, and this attitude will be very unhealthy if they gamble because as we know even if you can win in the short term over the long term you will lose no matter what you do.

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October 21, 2022, 09:53:52 PM
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If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?
I honestly can not compare this two together, a gamer is different from a gambler, anything that is being done for money can not be compared to something that's been done just for passing time sake, gambling and gaming can seem similar to the ordinary eyes, but the motivation that drives the two are quite different.
On one, something(money) is at stake, while on the other, nothing is at stake.
One can make or break you, while the other can not change anything about you.
Though a gamer moving into gambling will do with some experience gained from playing games, but then, it depends on the type of game s he's going to be gambling with.

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October 22, 2022, 04:18:42 PM
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Some people, gamers or not, are carried away when they hit their beginner's luck during a session in an online casino. Since they won right away, they will think that playing in an online casino is profitable and that making profits is just that easy.

They didn't know that those experiences are actually bait for them to continue gambling. Since they want to experience that winning experience, they won't stop chasing that feeling and that's it, the start of an addiction.

I think that gamers can easily transition to gambling if they know how to control their greediness and emotion when playing with their money. And, we know that some gamers are really good at strategy games but it's different if we are talking about getting money on the game and maybe a 1% chance of winning a gambling game.
I think some gamers will require to make some adjustments to their attitudes they have when gaming which will make them lose a huge mount if they are gambling, and I am talking about their desire to win, people play video games for fun but gamers are beyond that, they play the game more than the average person in an effort to be better than others, and this attitude will be very unhealthy if they gamble because as we know even if you can win in the short term over the long term you will lose no matter what you do.

The kind of mentality that you will think that you can improve more will lead you to think that you win more instead of being contented with the amount that you already earned. This is really something that gamers have disadvantage. though in some cases they can also use it as an advantage if they have a good limitation on how far they are targeting, then quit once they already achieved it.

It can't be generalized as people have different take in controlling what they are thinking is best for their gambling and gaming activities.

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October 28, 2022, 04:06:07 PM
Last edit: October 28, 2022, 05:08:45 PM by LUCKMCFLY
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I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?
I do see this attempt as a easy transition because the person must have been used to how the gaming world is with so much experience on how they will be able to handle gambling just like many of the gambling games that are available on many casinos. Some gambling games that are available on some casinos are just like normal game characters where we can always play and enjoy different adventures as we keep playing.
Some of the good gamblers we have now are once a good gamers before jumping into gambling where they gain more passion and earn profits since that is one of the sole reasons why many of us choose to gamble and keep playing bets.
I have seen these cases a lot, I think that when a player of this type of games that are more focused on adventure, of being sat for a long time and waiting a certain time to play again, it is a quite shocking process, because in a casino the games are usually very fast and it tells you at once if you win or lose, while in games that are very long, the winnings are very few and the hours of play are many, which quenches the thirst to play of a player, here things are different, the amounts of money can become considerable, and the longer you play, it will not guarantee that you win, for me these things are difficult in their transitions.
Some people, gamers or not, are carried away when they hit their beginner's luck during a session in an online casino. Since they won right away, they will think that playing in an online casino is profitable and that making profits is just that easy.

They didn't know that those experiences are actually bait for them to continue gambling. Since they want to experience that winning experience, they won't stop chasing that feeling and that's it, the start of an addiction.

I think that gamers can easily transition to gambling if they know how to control their greediness and emotion when playing with their money. And, we know that some gamers are really good at strategy games but it's different if we are talking about getting money on the game and maybe a 1% chance of winning a gambling game.
I think some gamers will require to make some adjustments to their attitudes they have when gaming which will make them lose a huge mount if they are gambling, and I am talking about their desire to win, people play video games for fun but gamers are beyond that, they play the game more than the average person in an effort to be better than others, and this attitude will be very unhealthy if they gamble because as we know even if you can win in the short term over the long term you will lose no matter what you do.

The kind of mentality that you will think that you can improve more will lead you to think that you win more instead of being contented with the amount that you already earned. This is really something that gamers have disadvantage. though in some cases they can also use it as an advantage if they have a good limitation on how far they are targeting, then quit once they already achieved it.

It can't be generalized as people have different take in controlling what they are thinking is best for their gambling and gaming activities.
Yes, I see your point and it is something very interesting, for me personally I always think that one should improve their game, somehow this takes time and experience, in addition to knowing that we cannot be better than the casino, whatever the casino takes In five many things, first the advantage, second the type of game that is something already complicated and third that when it is played and it is about money things change and can be seen with another tint, the person in question who is the player, no he wants to lose, and he always wants to maintain his status to continue playing and having fun, he wants to win more, sometimes the competition against himself is very strong and that can be detrimental.

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October 28, 2022, 09:55:37 PM
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If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?
I honestly can not compare this two together, a gamer is different from a gambler, anything that is being done for money can not be compared to something that's been done just for passing time sake, gambling and gaming can seem similar to the ordinary eyes, but the motivation that drives the two are quite different.
On one, something(money) is at stake, while on the other, nothing is at stake.
One can make or break you, while the other can not change anything about you.
Though a gamer moving into gambling will do with some experience gained from playing games, but then, it depends on the type of game s he's going to be gambling with.
This is true for the average gamer but there are many gamers which are in fact gambling, and if you do not believe me take a look at MMORPGs, many of those which play those games do so for fun, but there are a significant amount of players which farm gold or items from the game, and especially in the case of those which farm items they are gambling, as they fight the same boss over and over again hoping to get a specific item, how is this any different than the gambler which keeps betting the same number on the roulette waiting for that number to appear?

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