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November 13, 2022, 03:43:50 PM
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You may have your reasons subjective to yourself which probably might necessitate your diction but in a global setting as this I'll appreciate you give some regards to your nationality, it wasn't necessary mentioning name for no country is law perfected and corrupt free.
Nigeria is not the only country with corrupt judiciary or leaders. We are a great nation with great people.

Before you become emotional with my comments, it became an open discussion the moment I see the quote below:


It was open for further reading for everyone, now tell me where it has become a crime to mention the country and besides, where are the lies in my statement? This wouldn't happen in a developed country considering the fact that is gambling within its jurisdiction. If you followed up on the investigations, you would agree with me that they are only trying to reap the player and they are trying to bribe him because they will lose so much amount of money.

If you really gamble, I hope you don't become a victim because you will do worse if you have ever lost a game to a gambling vendor, keep the nationality brouhaha and let's say some facts.
I don't expect anyone to take anything personally here, @Lida93 is making it looks different with the tone of the reply. I am also a Nigerian, and what? I should not say the truth anymore? Well, I will always spit things out the way they are and call a spade what it is, not call blue a red.

A lot is happening there that is an abomination elsewhere, especially in the developed countries. Aside from all that, can the lottery company try that rubbish of not paying the guy in Europe or the US? Even the attempt to bribe him for his winning would have put them in real trouble. Let alone that government officials were involved in the bribery. Let's be realistic.

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November 15, 2022, 04:30:36 PM
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There are 85 percentage chances of that guy winning the case if he has a good and competent legal practitioner and if the judge will be fair enough. I really don't see reasons why most casinos act this why and try to rub gamblers of their winnings and it is really bad.

Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case


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November 15, 2022, 04:59:04 PM
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As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.

It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.

supposing the company story about having a glitch on the database is true, how come this would be a problem? they wouldn't be able to verify if the winner is legit?

Am I the only one who think "glitch in the database" really looks like these stories of people "losing their private keys on boating accidents"?
That's possible but it's their recklessness if they won't have a backup to avoid incidents like this. If they won't secure their database, then more players would experience the same thing which is really unfair for they have spent funds just to win such an amount.
I think the complainant will win the case and has provided enough evidence because he has the guts to reject their offer and push through with the case. If he has all the evidence, then it's a good move to fight for his right and this will also serve the casino a lesson. If I were them, if there were enough funds to pay the gambler, I would pay him so the case scenario won't get worse which can affect their reputation.

exactly
reputation could take months to years to build but can be destroyed in a couple days
the case we're seeing with SBF/FTX is an example of that
in one week it was ruined (maybe a couple months if you consider it started with Luna's colapse)

if the lottery is reliable and has the money to do it they should pay and stay in businnes

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November 15, 2022, 08:47:18 PM
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There are 85 percentage chances of that guy winning the case if he has a good and competent legal practitioner and if the judge will be fair enough. I really don't see reasons why most casinos act this why and try to rub gamblers of their winnings and it is really bad.

Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case

The fact that the lottery tried to bribe the winner, should be an obvious attempt that there's a clear anomaly here. However, the article is not complete if that said bribe incident is proven to be true. Of course, the lottery will claim it's not true I doubt too that they will consider that as that will ruin their famous reputation. But again, we don't know the truth.

We really don't know what's the real score between the two parties as we only rely on the details mentioned in the article. Almost a month since this news was posted, requesting for OP if he can found some additional progressing development about this story.

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November 15, 2022, 09:15:34 PM
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I just can't understand how gambling company prove the dishonesty of the winner if they previously said that their database had been wiped out
that means there is no evidence that the gambling company can show in court later if their database is deleted, the possibility that the winner of this case may win in court if he can't show strong evidence from the gambling company, this is an opportunity where the winner can show solid evidence against that gambling company

how often a database is wiped clean nowadays?
seems like something quite rare

would probably count against the company in court, not in favour.

but you are right, the winner should have at least some evidence that they really won.
It is so disheartened to read this news that looks very suspicious that the gambling platform purposely wipe out their data base so that the gambler will not get the full money that was won. This is will take time before full judgement will take place against the platform that refused to pay the necessary fund.
This is why we need to be very careful on the kind of platform we make bets because some casinos do have a scamming attempt to refuse payment for winners especially when the fund is big.
The key here is that its always been ideal and sticking into reputable or known gambling site or platforms which you could make bets is into those which are popular which you could really be having the confidence that

you would really be get paid in case you do hit up big wins.I dont know on why there are really people who do really touch up non popular gambling sites or betting sites if we do have currently which are known
and popular.If the said amount pending is big then you could really be able to file some legal actions but if evidences arent strong enough then it would really be sadly be ignored.

This is why some people do end up on suicide because of the huge money involved and able to go into other extreme means due to desperation.

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November 15, 2022, 10:42:59 PM
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There are 85 percentage chances of that guy winning the case if he has a good and competent legal practitioner and if the judge will be fair enough. I really don't see reasons why most casinos act this why and try to rub gamblers of their winnings and it is really bad.

Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case

The fact that the lottery tried to bribe the winner, should be an obvious attempt that there's a clear anomaly here. However, the article is not complete if that said bribe incident is proven to be true. Of course, the lottery will claim it's not true I doubt too that they will consider that as that will ruin their famous reputation. But again, we don't know the truth.

We really don't know what's the real score between the two parties as we only rely on the details mentioned in the article. Almost a month since this news was posted, requesting for OP if he can found some additional progressing development about this story.
There is no progress information posted. If the judiciary have made the proper investigation, then this needs to be a win for the person who have won the lottery. To keep the reputation the platform will surely try to bribe the judicial system. In that point this will be in favour of the gambling house. Data recovery isn't a big thing, with experts it can be done. Thing is that, whether the judiciary system allows it or show interest on it.

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November 15, 2022, 11:12:26 PM
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Strange case, he needs a specialist lawyer who might argue the fine detail on this one but extreme wins can upset the expected cash flow in a game which is a problem for any operation.  Not sure why it would be his fault at all or allowable by the rules and conditions of the game but also its hard to argue as just one voice.  It could be more complicated then it appears, I would not have the guts and would have given into the offers but also I would not play there or maybe anywhere for that game again tbh.

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November 15, 2022, 11:37:29 PM
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Strange case, he needs a specialist lawyer who might argue the fine detail on this one but extreme wins can upset the expected cash flow in a game which is a problem for any operation.  Not sure why it would be his fault at all or allowable by the rules and conditions of the game but also its hard to argue as just one voice.  It could be more complicated then it appears, I would not have the guts and would have given into the offers but also I would not play there or maybe anywhere for that game again tbh.
This is a big case and the person should not take the case easily with such casinos. Many casinos are found of not paying gamblers and this is very bad. I know this is not there first time of depriving winners of their funds and I am happy if the person which is the gambler finally win the case.

This is one of the reasons why we need to look for a reputable casinos that has good history for a very long time of paying gamblers their winnings. It this continues it will become an habit for this kind of casino to always keep gamblers winnings if they are not able to take it legally.

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November 15, 2022, 11:52:52 PM
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There are 85 percentage chances of that guy winning the case if he has a good and competent legal practitioner and if the judge will be fair enough. I really don't see reasons why most casinos act this why and try to rub gamblers of their winnings and it is really bad.

Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case

The fact that the lottery tried to bribe the winner, should be an obvious attempt that there's a clear anomaly here. However, the article is not complete if that said bribe incident is proven to be true. Of course, the lottery will claim it's not true I doubt too that they will consider that as that will ruin their famous reputation. But again, we don't know the truth.

We really don't know what's the real score between the two parties as we only rely on the details mentioned in the article. Almost a month since this news was posted, requesting for OP if he can found some additional progressing development about this story.
There is no progress information posted. If the judiciary have made the proper investigation, then this needs to be a win for the person who have won the lottery. To keep the reputation the platform will surely try to bribe the judicial system. In that point this will be in favour of the gambling house. Data recovery isn't a big thing, with experts it can be done. Thing is that, whether the judiciary system allows it or show interest on it.

If we speculate things with only the details in the article, yes, the winner of the lottery should win the case.

First, it's the lottery's fault that made the mistake.
Second, they tried to bribe the winner

If these 2 things are proven true by the court, then the winner is supposedly enjoying his winnings now.

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According to the article, in 5 days will be the next hearing, and I hope we will have news of what happens, although trials can drag on for a long time and maybe nothing relevant will happen.

I also believe like most who have commented that the lottery winner has everything to win the trial before the Lagos lottery company, although in matters of law you can never take anything for granted. In any case, if the company had a problem with its system, the user does not have to pay for it.

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