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October 24, 2022, 07:43:45 AM
Last edit: October 25, 2022, 06:49:22 AM by EarnOnVictor
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Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

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October 24, 2022, 07:58:15 AM
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I think he will win it. The fact that the company is offering him money means there is legitimacy in his claim, there must be proofs of his win that's why he won't budge at the offers given to him. Now, the gambling company will have more problems after he wins this case.
Reputation is first. Instead of just paying the man, they took the risk of going this far so now their business will be in danger too.

I have not experienced this yet and I wish to never do.
Why do they do it? Well, when it's about the money anything can be done. But sadly, in this case, they are not looking at long term profits.


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October 24, 2022, 08:02:06 AM
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Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

It's not that uncommon that (especially in "low rank" countries) national lottery or other lottery companies do rigged games. Meaning that the winners are usually not so random, instead they're linked to certain businessmen or parties.
I would not be surprised it's also the case here. There was indeed a technical error: it was not their man the one winning.


Whether he can win or not this, it's hard to tell. They afford to do this kind of shenanigans exactly because they expect the law enforcement be weak and take the side of the money, not the side of the truth (which may or may not be true).
It's now up to this guy get good proof and it's up to the judge prove the law works in your country. Best of luck (and I mean it)!

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October 24, 2022, 08:02:42 AM
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The guy can win the case if the judicial system in his location is transparent and not biased, thus if the guy has ample evidence to nail the gambling company for fraud and conspiracy to steal, then he definitely will be victorious.
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
I haven't experienced that before, i am usually picky on the platforms i play on anyway, i ensure they have a track record of paying winners and no record of unpaid wins, except in cases that the player cheated to get an unfair advantage.
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Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
The gambling company might prolly be a scam. OR they are a small company that is still growing and thus can't cover that huge win, but that is definitely not an excuse, before getting into this business, they ought to have sufficient funds to cover their maximum winnings, thus any player who wins either the exact maximum or anything under it ought to be paid.
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What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
As players, just ensure you are playing on reputable gambling platforms. Having said that, every country has their own body that checks gambling companies, so they can on their own part work harder to penalize gambling companies that are found guilty of fraud and ensure they pay whatever is owed.

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October 24, 2022, 08:37:02 AM
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The man will win the case if the judge in charge of his case is not corrupt and he also have his evidence or slip to show his winning, but if the judge is corrupt,then sorry he is only going to waste his money and time going to court. I guess the casino is a small one and might not be able to afford such amount of money because from the story he was offered almost the same amount twice at different time and reason, which means they might not even have up to $50000 to give to him,or they are scam.

I know of a gambling platform that when you win very bid like this,if they can't pay you because they are looking at just giving you alone this huge sum of money that can take care of so many persons winning, the casino might get broke so instead of depriving you of your money,in order to keep good reputation of the casino,they will give you a share in the casino by opening a branch for you to operate for them instead of you still playing, you will not be allowed by the casino to play their games. I haven't experience such before but I have heard of such


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October 24, 2022, 08:53:15 AM
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Can this guy win the case?
If he has kept proof that he played with the amount you mentioned and proof that he won that amount mentioned as well, but the gambling platform is refusing to pay, he has a really good chance of winning the case if the justice system doesn't get corrupted. Hiding behind an excuse like a technical error is flimsy, would someone who didn't win from a gambling website or casino have the boldness to demand money saying that they won? I doubt. The excuse of a technical error is not sufficient, except they would look for something to pin their refusal to remit wining to.

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October 24, 2022, 08:54:40 AM
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Please can you include the link for the authenticity of this information. I will also like to read the news in full.

I like what the guy did, the gambling site would be in panic by now, but as they do not have option, maybe they can go bankrupt if all the money is paid, or maybe the gambling site is not having up to that amount of money, not to talk if paying him.

Can this guy win the case?
I will say yes. Only want can happen is to convince him to accept low amount, which is what the gambling site is doing.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
That is life, nothing can stop this. Only what can help is for the person to be able to be in suit with the scammer (the gambling site).

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Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

If the gambling company where he played has any license and is operating from this license in this guy jurisdiction he is going to win at a 100% rate and that is why I strongly agree with him that he did not accept the sum of money offered from the company.The company maybe is saying let's try to give this guy one fifth of the money he won and let's hope he will be happy with that which he normally was not.Now that the case is in high courts it is extremely likely that he is going to win the case and ask for more money than he originally won because of the behavior of the company.

Below my answers to last three questions.
I have always been paid every time I have won but not those huge amounts as I never won more than 3000.
They take any huge amount of bets because company like this one thinks most of them will lose so why not enrich ourselves and do not think of consequences like this.
Put to jail the owners of such companies,this would surely curb the cheating.

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October 24, 2022, 09:10:05 AM
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I do not know if your story is the same I heard making the rounds in a state in Nigeria and why the governor Charles Soludo decided to summon all the gambling companies in that state to issue them warning or it is a different one. And like Oshosondy said, you should put a link so we can read it up to get the whole story. Most casinos and gambling sites are that way. They are structured in a way that players will keep losing and when anyone escapes it, they find an excuse not to pay. It is either they accuse winners of KYC not being adequate or some double dealings. No, I have not encountered such. It is bad that casinos are set up and will not want to pay out when winnings are recorded. He will win the case. I hope no judicial manipulations happen to him.
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October 24, 2022, 09:12:14 AM
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There is every indication he will win the case and get extra bonus for stressing the matter if presented to an appeal court. He did well by rejecting such tiny amount compared to what he won. As far has his Lottery ticket is intact and the claims to his winning is visible by him the case is a won deal already. There is no way this cheating can be permanently curbed the only measure that can be taken by gamblers is to always ensure their tickets are safe and take legal actions where the gambling company tries playing partial

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October 24, 2022, 09:20:48 AM
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Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
They should, as long he has solid proof of the announcement of winners (whether it be via video, an official announcement, or whatever), as well as the lottery ticket that won. It also matters that said lottery should be a legal one though.

On the matter of experiencing it, I have to win first before I can  Grin

It might honestly be a real tech accident of sorts, it happens, I just think it's impossible for it to not leave any traces whatsoever though so them avoiding it like this kind of seems odd. It might be for money though I don't think they'd shy away from paying it that much since they're a lottery company, they'd inevitably win in the long run tbh. Put a punishment, a very heavy one for law breakers like in this scenario.

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October 24, 2022, 09:24:10 AM
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Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Is there a link or a screenshot of the story this is the first time I heard of such, it will definitely ruin the lottery company for such a poor alibi, he will definitely win the case and he can also ask the company to pay the attorney's fee, I don't know the lottery in that country but all the lottery I know about, they are under the jurisdiction of consumer board and they are obliged under the law to pay their winners, he should not accept a settlement fee because that's not his fault but the lottery company.


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October 24, 2022, 10:14:09 AM
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Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Is there a link or a screenshot of the story this is the first time I heard of such, it will definitely ruin the lottery company for such a poor alibi, he will definitely win the case and he can also ask the company to pay the attorney's fee, I don't know the lottery in that country but all the lottery I know about, they are under the jurisdiction of consumer board and they are obliged under the law to pay their winners, he should not accept a settlement fee because that's not his fault but the lottery company.

Yeah, would like to see which country is this one, because it seems that there are corruption with the lottery office. If this is government mandated lottery then they should pay the winner, no if or but.

And why are they offering him that money in the first place? they should give him full credit if by chance he really won fair and square.

So of course we are in the side of the man and hopefully he will get his full price.
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He got this case. He got the ticket, he got the proofs, and the company is trying to bribe him to not sue meaning he has a lot of sense in this lawsuit. Most of us would probably just take the L and get that $29,000, but luckily this man is very determined to get what he deserves. If anything, he could even get more than what he won if the court sees fit, and hopefully that would be the case to teach the lottery company a lesson that they cannot simply state that they voided winnings just because of an error on their part.

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October 24, 2022, 10:47:00 AM
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He got this case. He got the ticket, he got the proofs, and the company is trying to bribe him to not sue meaning he has a lot of sense in this lawsuit. Most of us would probably just take the L and get that $29,000, but luckily this man is very determined to get what he deserves. If anything, he could even get more than what he won if the court sees fit, and hopefully that would be the case to teach the lottery company a lesson that they cannot simply state that they voided winnings just because of an error on their part.
Yeah, if that's me, I might've accepted the first offer thinking there won't be a second one, well according to the story.
Me being lazy taking it to the high court and the hassle of doing all the paperwork and documents and then, asking a lawyer to handle the case.
I mean, that's still profit from a 690 bet. But the man is aching to receive what he deserves and I think he will get it, and justice will be served.

Is this a private lottery company?
I only know national lotteries, here in our country it's a nationwide thing and in the USA there's Powerball, mega, etc.. which is running per state.

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October 24, 2022, 11:22:06 AM
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He got this case. He got the ticket, he got the proofs, and the company is trying to bribe him to not sue meaning he has a lot of sense in this lawsuit. Most of us would probably just take the L and get that $29,000, but luckily this man is very determined to get what he deserves. If anything, he could even get more than what he won if the court sees fit, and hopefully that would be the case to teach the lottery company a lesson that they cannot simply state that they voided winnings just because of an error on their part.

Nah, I will still get my winnings and will not accept that bribe. and since he has all the proofs and the ticket then there's no way that he is going to lose this one. Unless they bribe the judge and whoever is involved.

But if this get the attention of the public, then there's no way that he should lose the case. And it's good that he is that determine, I mean it's a win-win for him. So he might as well get and fight it out till the end.

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October 24, 2022, 11:28:36 AM
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Can this guy win the case?


If the casino is offering him some money and the gambling board that means he has evidence against them that he do play the games and that make him to claim the winning he has, so yes he will win the case. What matters is the evidence he present to the court and they will investigate the claiming. The gambling board has committed already in paying that means not a false claim but they want to reduce the winning amount and the winner disagree. I think the court will judge it that they will pay gradually until complete of the winning claim



Can this guy win the case?
I will say yes. Only want can happen is to convince him to accept low amount, which is what the gambling site is doing.


He will not be convince for low price because they offered to him low price and he refuse before approach to court. He will get the winning claim but not at once.
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October 24, 2022, 11:30:38 AM
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Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

It's hard to say what his chances will be to win this case, without knowing the gambling laws in his country. With winnings of above 150,000 USD it makes sense to get an expert lawyer to take care of it. Since he was offered already two times money from the company his chances seem good. The lottery company know they are in the wrong and trying to get a cheap payout. It's good that he declined the payments avd I hope he is documenting everything properly. It shouldn't be an issue for him that the company lost the data for the winnings. If his lottery ticket shows the winning numbers and its legit than he deserves all the money. In my country the lottery company is partially owned by the state and there is no way that they could get out of paying out winnings. The winning numbers are broadcasted on TV and if you have the lottery winning slip with your name on it, its your money. Hopefully he gets all the money and doesn't except a partial payout.
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October 24, 2022, 11:33:18 AM
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Care to share the link of the source to your story to verify the authenticity of this news? Why he needs to go on National Gambling Board while he already received settlement offer from the casino? It only means that casino is guilty and he should file a case against the casino on court to force them to pay the full amount. I fhe holds the winning number and all the conversation about casino refusing to pay. He will surely win if he has money to sustain his lawyer fee but I believe this will be a settlement close to the winning amount to aboid expenses on lawyer of both side if they continue the case.

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October 24, 2022, 11:50:42 AM
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Can this guy win the case?
Yes.
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
I haven't.
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
It's either they're telling the truth that there's sort of bug but it's sketchy if they've said that they've wiped off their database. That sounds odd and crazy if it just happened recently when the guy tries to claim his winnings.
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
There's no way that we can avoid that.

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