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October 19, 2023, 06:32:14 PM
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I don’t get it; the gambler won’t win constinuously ‘coz that’s impossible. Also, no matter how big a gambler would wage, a single player’s bet (considering that it is city’s best casino) won’t be enough to cause trouble with the overall bankroll. Maybe this is just an isolated case and others won’t do the same thing.There are other ways to resolve this than to immediately ban a player. Gambling platforms should love players who stake high ‘coz they’d earn from him.If these casinos would continue doing this, then they shouldn’t be in line with the “best” ‘coz they are not having the right bankroll distribution which threatens them of bankruptcy. Problem is not with the gambler but the casino itself.

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October 20, 2023, 02:45:55 AM
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I don’t get it; the gambler won’t win constinuously ‘coz that’s impossible. Also, no matter how big a gambler would wage, a single player’s bet (considering that it is city’s best casino) won’t be enough to cause trouble with the overall bankroll. Maybe this is just an isolated case and others won’t do the same thing.There are other ways to resolve this than to immediately ban a player. Gambling platforms should love players who stake high ‘coz they’d earn from him.If these casinos would continue doing this, then they shouldn’t be in line with the “best” ‘coz they are not having the right bankroll distribution which threatens them of bankruptcy. Problem is not with the gambler but the casino itself.

Well it's really hard to believed that someone will be ban, unless that is one famous player that exploited the system of the casino. Like Ivey,

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The battle in the courtrooms stemmed from several epic high-stakes baccarat sessions in 2012. Ivey and his partner, Cheung Yin “Kelly” Sun, beat the Borgata out of $9.6 million. After it was revealed that the duo was using a controversial technique called “edge sorting,” the casino filed suit against Ivey and Sun.

The technique allowed the pair to spot manufacturing defects on the cards and gain an edge over the casino. Ivey and Sun used the same technique in the UK at London’s Crockfords casino and won £7.8 million, but the casino wouldn’t pay out the money. Ivey sued the casino and lost.

Borgata, on the other hand, paid Ivey and Sun and were forced to use the legal system to try and get the money back.

Borgata sued for $15.6 million two years after Ivey’s massive win. The total which included hundreds of thousands of dollars in comps and the $5.4 million the casino’s legal team figured the casino would have beaten Ivey for if he had been playing straight up.

In 2016, the judge decided that Ivey would be forced to pay the casino $10.1 million, after factoring the $500,000 Ivey won playing craps after his baccarat session.

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/25107-poker-legend-phil-ivey-settles-10-1-million-lawsuit-with-borgata

But that is a rare cash for a player to beat the casinos in their own game and it has consequences, like being used and then they are obviously going to be ban on that casino itself. And who knows, if you are ban in one casino, you could also be ban on others

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October 20, 2023, 03:01:38 AM
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I don’t get it; the gambler won’t win constinuously ‘coz that’s impossible.
In general, casinos do limit bets, as they don't have an infinite bankroll. In the case you described, the individual is a high roller, placing substantial bets and consistently winning, so he was banned. It was actually Dana White, the President and CEO of UFC.

Also, no matter how big a gambler would wage, a single player’s bet (considering that it is city’s best casino) won’t be enough to cause trouble with the overall bankroll. Maybe this is just an isolated case and others won’t do the same thing.There are other ways to resolve this than to immediately ban a player. Gambling platforms should love players who stake high ‘coz they’d earn from him.If these casinos would continue doing this, then they shouldn’t be in line with the “best” ‘coz they are not having the right bankroll distribution which threatens them of bankruptcy. Problem is not with the gambler but the casino itself.

If casinos are wealthy, and gamblers like Dana White, who consistently earns a substantial income in his business, can easily risk millions of dollars, it becomes painful for the casino when they lose. While banning him is probably not the right approach, limiting his bets may be considered. The question is, would that satisfy Dana White?

Dana White net worth in 2023 is $500, 000,000.. he is a rich guy.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/tag/dana-white/

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October 20, 2023, 09:40:56 AM
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Casinos arent just handing out bonuses for fun; they're businesses after all. And like any business, they have to protect their interests, right? We players often forget that casinos arent our buddies; they're in it to make a profit. But you've hit the nail on the head when you say that we have choices. If one casino doesn't offer the bonuses we want, there's always another one down the virtual street. Its like shopping for a new pair of shoes; if one store doesnt have our size, we move on to the next.

I totally agree with you that gambling should be treated as entertainment, not as a source of income. Too many folks think they can beat the system, but most end up disappointed. And chasing wins? Man, thats a slippery slope. Greed has a funny way of creeping up on you when you least expect it.

What if all casinos start limiting bonuses? Do we just jump from one to another, or do we reassess our approach to gambling? Think about it.
If all casinos start limiting bonuses, it will confuse gamblers because many gamblers still expect them, and bonuses keep gamblers returning to their casinos. And no matter if they still experience losses that may be even more frequent, they will still return to the casino to get another bonus. And it is normal to see that many gamblers are still trying to catch bonuses from casinos, especially if the bonuses are given at an event.

But you are right that casinos are not friends and are a place to have fun by gambling. They are still trying to chase victory even though they know it is wrong but they think they still have a little luck to win in the next round. But they were wrong. Luck can go away immediately after they win. Therefore, we must know ourselves and stop gambling before everything changes.

If you think about it - this restriction from the casino is indeed quite useful to minimize so that they are not too excessive and also clearly so that there is no opportunity for them to realize their greed. It is true that we must be able to realize the fact that casinos will not always give you luck, because obviously it is contrary to their goals, we must understand that the casino's goal is only to make us lose by deceiving our mindset through the existence of opportunities that are absolutely not guaranteed. This means that it doesn't make sense if we keep chasing the winnings there while the casino just wants us to lose because they will get a lot of profit from it. Taking a little winnings and then realizing and moving to another casino is quite reasonable, I also often do this, honestly this is one of my ways, no matter how much the winnings are, the important thing is that it is above the balance I have and I will immediately make a withdrawal and then secure my capital and use the money from the previous winnings to play at another casino, so even if you lose, it's just money from the winnings.

So the point is you can gamble but not too much, and if you realize that your personality is always easily provoked and greedy then I think it's better to just stop than to keep looking for ways to win there. The fact is that you don't win but keep losing.
If it limits gamblers from winning, it means that we are not allowed to chase winnings because when we have won, we must immediately stop so as not to be subject to any bans from the casino. We already know that getting a win is difficult so we shouldn't force ourselves to chase that win again. It's enough for us to win whatever the winning amount is and we can still gamble again another day so we can win again another day. Maybe after we win and stop gambling, we can move to another casino to continue gambling, but that is not recommended because we could lose the money we have earned. And we should take a break to reduce the tension.

And that means we have to be responsible when gambling so we don't overdo it. We should gamble to get entertainment rather than to chase victory because that will cause us to experience many losses. We won't realize how much money we spend because we keep playing to chase that win.

Probably for some regular gamblers, limiting their gambling bets is okay but for high rollers like Dana White, I guess it won't work for him since he is used to bet exceedingly large amount as this could be the best way so he can also gain huge winning amount if ever. But knowing gambling casinos have set their own rules that would retain their bankroll security, so it's either Dana White will leave the gambling casino or he'll just follow the order so he can still continue to bet even if it only means winning small amounts, and losing minimal amount at some point as well.

This scenario is actually not new for everyone. When you are really a threat to every casino's business, expect that they will soon to regulate your gambling activities or nevertheless ban your presence from playing inside their casino.
For top gamblers, who are more experienced than most gamblers, they have their own way of limiting themselves. Maybe we think they have lost a lot of money because we see the amount of money they use for gambling, but that's not the case in their opinion because they are used to using that much money for gambling. And they also know how to treat gambling properly because it is gambling where there are bound to be winners and losers so they just gamble until it is enough for them.

Casinos don't want to see gamblers they don't know win regularly and the casinos will do something about it. We can try to imagine we are the owners and see the reality that way. We definitely don't want to see such a sight and we may start monitoring the gambler or even throw him out of our place so that he doesn't win again and again.

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October 20, 2023, 09:57:44 AM
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Also, no matter how big a gambler would wage, a single player’s bet (considering that it is city’s best casino) won’t be enough to cause trouble with the overall bankroll. Maybe this is just an isolated case and others won’t do the same thing.There are other ways to resolve this than to immediately ban a player. Gambling platforms should love players who stake high ‘coz they’d earn from him.If these casinos would continue doing this, then they shouldn’t be in line with the “best” ‘coz they are not having the right bankroll distribution which threatens them of bankruptcy. Problem is not with the gambler but the casino itself.

If casinos are wealthy, and gamblers like Dana White, who consistently earns a substantial income in his business, can easily risk millions of dollars, it becomes painful for the casino when they lose. While banning him is probably not the right approach, limiting his bets may be considered. The question is, would that satisfy Dana White?

Dana White net worth in 2023 is $500, 000,000.. he is a rich guy.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/tag/dana-white/
These orchestrate bans sends a strong and clear message that the casinos were not established in our best interest so therefore as a gambler just come play constantly lose your money amidst having fun and walk home smiling for your loss. They could have taken the option of considering to limit his bets but limiting his bet won't still put the casino on the winning side every penny is significant for business and this know that's why the ban. But this isn't right all, does it mean that if casinos can make it possible that gamblers don't ever get a single  win in all the times they play, they can do it. So our winnings irritate them but our constant losses doesn't, so what's the balance there if this be the case that I should just be constantly losing as a gambler?
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