The impact of war on global economy.

[Mate2237]

This thread was created since September 23, 2023, 06:03:11 PM and today is the first time I am seeing it. War between two countries do not have too much effect in the global economy. But it would have a serious effect in the two countries that fighting and also in the regional. It is the regional effect that will affect the nearby countries. It will not even have effect in the exchange market and stock market. Examples. The cost of living in the world is not cost by Russia and Ukraine war or it is not cased by Israel and Palestine war but the greediness of the State Governments in the world.

[Ozero]

Russia vs NATO war means WW3 and eventually the nuclear apocalypse. Russia as a global nuclear superpower simply can't lose.

Ukraine, with its drones, is now actively destroying Russia’s nuclear shield, which are long-range target detection radar stations.

Thus, on May 24, the Voronezh-DM radar station was hit near the city of Armavir in the Kuban, which is located 1,800 kilometers from the Ukrainian border.

On May 27, Ukrainian power steering drones hit the Voronezh-M long-range target detection radar station, which is located near Orsk, Orenburg region of Russia.

On the night of May 27-28, in occupied Lugansk, the Nebo-M radar, which was located on the territory of the flight school airfield, was hit.

On the night of May 29-30, SBU drones destroyed the Sky-SVU radar, worth about $100 million, which was installed near Armyansk in the occupied Crimea.

Thus, Ukraine shows its capabilities and indicates likely preparation for future operations. Their destruction may also mean further radical actions by Ukraine’s partners in the event of Russia’s use of nuclear weapons. This may well be clearing a corridor for American Tomahawk cruise missiles, which can be launched from the Mediterranean Sea or the Indian Ocean.

With such strikes, Ukraine, perhaps even at the instigation of Western advisers, shows the people around Putin, and those involved in the strategic defense of Russia, that they do not have any “strategic shield.” That all their nuclear targets are vulnerable. There are only 12 federal nuclear weapons storage facilities in Russia, the data of which is known to everyone. If you hit them at the same time, then Russia will not have even 5% of its nuclear potential left.
One Voronezh radar covers approximately 6,000 kilometers around itself. There are ten of these in Russia, several of which have already been hit by Ukrainian drones. If other radars are destroyed, Russia simply will not see what will happen around it.

Under such circumstances, Russia may well lose a nuclear war.

[sain2331]

So True The Impact of the War on global economy is really bad. It becomes the cause of high oil price which increase inflation on goods and energy. BTC

[Andrija Branislav]

So True The Impact of the War on global economy is really bad. It becomes the cause of high oil price which increase inflation on goods and energy. BTC

It doesn't really matter if you compare it to BTC, if it does, it's just a small ripple in the ocean. When the price goes up, all the bad news disappears by itself. Does anyone care anymore about the issue of war when the BTC price rises??

Investors will focus first on what they invest in, war matters are not their special concern.

[AnonBitCoiner]

The other two ideas aren't as straightforward as true or false. Statement number two is true: while war often causes a drop in the value of stocks, this is frequently not the case. during the seasons of conflict, commodities may rise because buyers believe industries that give services and products to military personnel are more secure. Finally, while war usually results in price increases, it is not a given conclusion. It relies on a number of circumstances, including the seriousness of the war and the country's general financial situation.

If war started between two countries then there is an increase in the price of materials and the reason behind this rise is that the route of export and imports will cease. Sometimes war stops immediately without creating more dangerous situations so the conditions become normal.

War has no significant impacts on the country's situation and it is not only a matter of worries for the country where war happens but other countries also suffer a lot therefore we should think about every kind of situation with a calm mind.

[serveria.com]

If the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already been almost destroyed and they are on the verge of collapse, then the Russian occupiers will soon be in Kyiv? Or at least in Kharkov, which is located relatively close to the border with Russia? Taking into account the fact that the Russian army is now actively storming the Kharkov direction, then in a month or two Russian soldiers should at least capture Kharkov, right? But I think that even by the end of the year Russia will not be able to capture even Kharkov.

Yes, they are soon going to enter Kyiv and not only Kyiv, possibly even Lviv eventually. The main flaw of your logic is that you're obviously relying on historical events, something that has been happening until now. But you're ignoring some serious factors which affect the war, main one being the lack of troops. You seriously think that all the way to Kyiv there are going to be only Bakhmuts and Avdiivkas? Don't be naïve! There will be no fighting going on because there will be noone left to fight. Those who wanted to fight Russians are long dead, there are only alcoholics, elderly and guys who were caught in the street and sent to Donbas as cannon fodder. These guys are surrendering en masse, using any opportunity. This will soon lead to the front line completely collapsing. There will be complete units surrendering or even taking Russia's side. Fierce battles are over, it's a thing of the past. Russians are going to seize entire regions without a single shot.    

As for Russia’s possible war against NATO, everything depends on the aggressive appetites of Putin’s Russia. After all, Russia is currently attacking, not NATO countries. Russia, as a nuclear superpower, cannot lose a war? But the USA and France also have their own nuclear arsenals and then they also cannot lose?

No, nothing depends on Russia, everything is up to what NATO is going to do (the US will make them do). Yes, also France and the US can't lose the war if some country is going to attack their territory they are going to use their nukes 100%.

NATO has not yet lost a single soldier in this confrontation. At the same time, Russia’s losses in manpower and military equipment are simply colossal. A few more years of such a war and NATO soldiers will be able to simply march and enter Moscow without any resistance.

Huge pile of BS. NATO has lost hundreds if not thousands of soldiers. And not even regular privates but colonels and majors. Mostly military advisors killed in air raids. Then there are some NATO soldiers who left their service in the army and went to Ukraine as "volunteers". Many of them were KIA.

As to the Russian losses reported by AFU, you surely know they're a lie. AFU have started to realize that they made a mistake by reporting these fake, exagerrated loss stats because soon this number is going to exceed the total size of the Russian army and they will look stupid.

NATO soldiers will only enter Moscow in your wet dreams. Have you heard of the "dead hand"? Google it, in short, Russia will be able to launch nukes even with every single Russian killed.  

[junmisakiro]

So True The Impact of the War on global economy is really bad. It becomes the cause of high oil price which increase inflation on goods and energy. BTC

I really support what you say, because the stability of a country is certainly everyone's dream. If a condition occurs where a country is hit by war due to a conflict, whether internal conflict or external conflict, then the war will of course have a big impact on the country's economy and taxation. Prolonged war conditions can cause industry to stop working, because it is vulnerable to poor security conditions. As a result, many people don't work and don't earn money. Poor security conditions of course make investors prefer to withdraw their investments and move to other, safer countries rather than staying in war-torn countries. This condition will also be followed by the collapse of the capital market.

[Freeesta]

Well, of course, the war begins in order to earn more money and bring some countries out of the crisis. The defense industry begins to operate, high energy prices and at the same time a decrease in the number of people. Some countries make weapons, other countries buy them and spend a lot of money on it. We see all this all the time. Heads of state decide global issues and yet no one takes human life into account. For the sake of other people's interests, a large number of people, children, die. This is the world economy!

[Ozero]

If the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already been almost destroyed and they are on the verge of collapse, then the Russian occupiers will soon be in Kyiv? Or at least in Kharkov, which is located relatively close to the border with Russia? Taking into account the fact that the Russian army is now actively storming the Kharkov direction, then in a month or two Russian soldiers should at least capture Kharkov, right? But I think that even by the end of the year Russia will not be able to capture even Kharkov.

Yes, they are soon going to enter Kyiv and not only Kyiv, possibly even Lviv eventually. The main flaw of your logic is that you're obviously relying on historical events, something that has been happening until now. But you're ignoring some serious factors which affect the war, main one being the lack of troops. You seriously think that all the way to Kyiv there are going to be only Bakhmuts and Avdiivkas? Don't be naïve! There will be no fighting going on because there will be noone left to fight. Those who wanted to fight Russians are long dead, there are only alcoholics, elderly and guys who were caught in the street and sent to Donbas as cannon fodder. These guys are surrendering en masse, using any opportunity. This will soon lead to the front line completely collapsing. There will be complete units surrendering or even taking Russia's side. Fierce battles are over, it's a thing of the past. Russians are going to seize entire regions without a single shot.    

The Russian army has been continuously storming the Kharkov region from Volchansk since May 10. The invaders entered the border Volchansk in the first days, having previously destroyed the minefields with the help of artillery and corrective bombs. They entered, but never progressed further. But their losses increased sharply. In May, the irretrievable losses of Russians in Ukraine amount to about 38,000 soldiers (511,130 in total), 416 tanks, 868 armored vehicles, 9 aircraft, 1,116 artillery systems and other weapons. The Russians had armored vehicles left for at most another year of war, and even then, mostly equipment from the Second World War remained. In Russia, approximately 30 thousand people a month are drafted into war, and approximately the same amount is disposed of in Ukraine. Well, let's see how many more of them will agree to die for the imperial ambitions of the distraught old man Putin.

In connection with the emergence of a new front in the Kharkov region, an unequal situation arose when the Russians could attack from their territory, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine had a ban on the use of Western weapons on Russian territory. Therefore, 15 countries have already lifted this restriction. The Russians will soon fully see what war is when many times more flames blaze on their territory. This will surely make them change their attitude towards her.

And don’t worry about the Ukrainian army. There is a bullet for each occupier, as well as for the one who will fire it. If you think this attack on Ukraine is worth it, welcome to hell.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

1. Increase in the national GDP is least likely to be caused by a war.
2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

The supply of any goods will stop when war occurs and the result will be a shortage. The increase in GDP was definitely reduced because the country was facing war and needed any resources for the process. Modern wars require oil to operate machines and without certain oils, certain weapons cannot be run so that certain countries will experience defeat.

Stocks are out of control because the country is busy dealing with war and the stock market will experience great pressure for instability. Even when Covid occurs, all sectors have an impact, even though this happens, it is not much bigger than war and we can imagine that when war occurs it will be much more dangerous.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?

There is truth and it really affects the increase in GDP, oil and the stock market because war can kill all important aspects and these three concepts require maturation in war conditions which are definitely very disturbed.

[xmonkeyx]

Normally war is a bad thing and it affects all aspect of man's life and that of their nation why because when there is war there is also economy crisis and it surely also affects the areas of your highlights. When there is war the neighboring country's enjoy the benefits of selling their ammunition and their cost prices changes over time to the higher in demand of them, including every other things in the country increases tremendously. This isn't a thing to pray for and we should try all our best to prevent and avoid war from resolute within both country's as both affected country could finds it very difficult to get back their normal ways of living because it will affect almost every other thing in the country.

I agree with your opinion, the impact on the global economy can damage and affect aspects of human life. War not only drains resources and takes lives, but also disrupts economic stability at large. War can disrupt global supply chains and international trade, resulting in inflation, reduced investment, and business losses. We must avoid war by conducting effective diplomacy and making peace to minimize the impact on the global economy. No one wants war.

[StreakW]

Normally war is a bad thing and it affects all aspect of man's life and that of their nation why because when there is war there is also economy crisis and it surely also affects the areas of your highlights. When there is war the neighboring country's enjoy the benefits of selling their ammunition and their cost prices changes over time to the higher in demand of them, including every other things in the country increases tremendously. This isn't a thing to pray for and we should try all our best to prevent and avoid war from resolute within both country's as both affected country could finds it very difficult to get back their normal ways of living because it will affect almost every other thing in the country.

I agree with your opinion, the impact on the global economy can damage and affect aspects of human life. War not only drains resources and takes lives, but also disrupts economic stability at large. War can disrupt global supply chains and international trade, resulting in inflation, reduced investment, and business losses. We must avoid war by conducting effective diplomacy and making peace to minimize the impact on the global economy. No one wants war.

It is difficult to avoid war, especially if a country has abundant natural resources and the level of national defense is weak, other countries which have great power will definitely attack a country which has great natural resources. As is happening in various countries today and in history.

[Awwal08]

The war is a very difficult situation and everyone will surely become affected specially when the country who engaged the war is the main supplier of fuel, gasoline, oil, etc.,there is a big possiblity that their product price will rise and leads to a very high implation and make everyone suffer a financial crisis, so we need to pray that all the war will end and we may have a one united world under god to avoid this war for good.

War is not something one should pray for, and even those that are experiencing it, i pray for it to end very quickly. Because when this happens in any organization, society or a country, it causes a lot of damages to them financially, emotionally, mode of living and even academically. there will be distabilizing in many aspect. Relatives will loose one another. The economy of the country will run down since there's no rest of mind anymore. And during the process, instead of focusing on how to build the country forward, the government will be focusing on how to settle  the crisis on the ground, which will in turn lead to down fall of the country's Economy. Is very sad to hear or seeing any country suffering in this kind of deadly situation.

[serveria.com]

The Russian army has been continuously storming the Kharkov region from Volchansk since May 10. The invaders entered the border Volchansk in the first days, having previously destroyed the minefields with the help of artillery and corrective bombs. They entered, but never progressed further.

This is another lie, my little lying friend: Vovchansk is 10km away from the border. Between Vovchansk and the border there are many villages which had to be captured en route to Vovchansk, which also took some time. So, no, Russia hasn't been holding Vovchansk under siege since May 10.  

But their losses increased sharply. In May, the irretrievable losses of Russians in Ukraine amount to about 38,000 soldiers (511,130 in total), 416 tanks, 868 armored vehicles, 9 aircraft, 1,116 artillery systems and other weapons. The Russians had armored vehicles left for at most another year of war, and even then, mostly equipment from the Second World War remained. In Russia, approximately 30 thousand people a month are drafted into war, and approximately the same amount is disposed of in Ukraine. Well, let's see how many more of them will agree to die for the imperial ambitions of the distraught old man Putin.

The total number of Russian Ground Forces is only 550,000 men.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Ground_Forces
So, if we try to take your BS seriously Ukraine has destroyed the Russian army completely. Which is of course laughable and simply not true.  

In connection with the emergence of a new front in the Kharkov region, an unequal situation arose when the Russians could attack from their territory, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine had a ban on the use of Western weapons on Russian territory. Therefore, 15 countries have already lifted this restriction. The Russians will soon fully see what war is when many times more flames blaze on their territory. This will surely make them change their attitude towards her.

Bullshit, it won't change a shit, it will only spark more hate towards Ukraine (this Russian guy who is posting here confirmed this btw).

And don’t worry about the Ukrainian army. There is a bullet for each occupier, as well as for the one who will fire it. If you think this attack on Ukraine is worth it, welcome to hell.

Bla bla bla... this pompous and retarded propaganda reminds me of this:

[Ozero]

But their losses increased sharply. In May, the irretrievable losses of Russians in Ukraine amount to about 38,000 soldiers (511,130 in total), 416 tanks, 868 armored vehicles, 9 aircraft, 1,116 artillery systems and other weapons. The Russians had armored vehicles left for at most another year of war, and even then, mostly equipment from the Second World War remained. In Russia, approximately 30 thousand people a month are drafted into war, and approximately the same amount is disposed of in Ukraine. Well, let's see how many more of them will agree to die for the imperial ambitions of the distraught old man Putin.

The total number of Russian Ground Forces is only 550,000 men.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Ground_Forces
So, if we try to take your BS seriously Ukraine has destroyed the Russian army completely. Which is of course laughable and simply not true.  

Apparently, the figures given in Wikipedia about the number of Russian Ground Forces are very outdated.

According to Russian sources, the Russian army in 2022 had the following number of military personnel:
- ground forces numbered about 800,000 people;
— approximately 100 thousand served in the aerospace forces;
- the fleet included about 150 thousand, that is, these three types of troops alone amounted to about 1,050,000 people.
In addition, the Russian Armed Forces also include the Strategic Missile Forces, Airborne Forces, and Special Operations Forces, which may also well take part in the war against Ukraine. The Russian National Guard and various PMCs are also fighting on the Ukrainian fronts. I have not yet found in open sources what the current number of ground forces in the Russian Federation is.

On September 25, 2022, a decree was signed to increase the number of military personnel to 2,039,758 “due to the tense geopolitical situation.”
https://pamyatpokoleniy.ru/news/tpost/4toaxkmhs1-chislennost-armii-rossii-na-2022

The commander of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, Lieutenant General Pavlyuk, stated that as of May 3, about 510-515 thousand Russian military personnel were stationed in Ukraine.

Putin said in December 2023 that there were 617,000 Russian military personnel in the “combat zone”—probably referring to all Russian military personnel deployed in the so-called zone. “special military operation” in the war of the Russian Federation against Ukraine, including the areas where Russian troops are based in border areas on Russian territory.
https://nv.ua/ukraine/events/skolko-rossiyskih-voysk-v-ukraine-i-na-granice-rf-i-o-chem-svidetelstvuyut-eti-dannye-novosti-ukrainy-50424861.html

[Yaqs15]

I don't think war will ever have any positive impact on the world economy development, instead it will make things go hard for the people in the affected regions before they will be able to get their way back on track in sustaining from the injury, we cannot predict the consequence to which what war could effect on us, because everyone will virtually be affected at this and there is nothing we can do about it, but the best way is to avoid it from happening.

In times of war in any society, the only thing that they will experience then will be lack of peace and harmony, and when there's no peace in a place, don't even think of progress in that particular place. And what is the essence of living without progress? It's meaningless.
  So war is nothing that one will hope or pray for. Because, during this period of war, many things happen that are detrimental to us physically, emotionally, financially and academically.
 Don't forget that war causes lost of many lives. It lead to the absence of closeness and physical interaction between the family and friends. It also lead to shut down of schools, markets and working place. And finally, it leads to lack of freedom of movement because it makes government to place curfew on citizens in the affected areas.

[serveria.com]

But their losses increased sharply. In May, the irretrievable losses of Russians in Ukraine amount to about 38,000 soldiers (511,130 in total), 416 tanks, 868 armored vehicles, 9 aircraft, 1,116 artillery systems and other weapons. The Russians had armored vehicles left for at most another year of war, and even then, mostly equipment from the Second World War remained. In Russia, approximately 30 thousand people a month are drafted into war, and approximately the same amount is disposed of in Ukraine. Well, let's see how many more of them will agree to die for the imperial ambitions of the distraught old man Putin.

The total number of Russian Ground Forces is only 550,000 men.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Ground_Forces
So, if we try to take your BS seriously Ukraine has destroyed the Russian army completely. Which is of course laughable and simply not true.  

Apparently, the figures given in Wikipedia about the number of Russian Ground Forces are very outdated.

Apparently, you are retarded. Ok, I will spoon-feed you one more time: next to every number or other important info in Wikipedia there's a small reference number, if you click on that number, you'll be able to see the source/reference. How cool is that?  I'm sure it's not easy for a troll like yourself to accept the fact that there's a valid source for every claim, but you could at least try. Anyway, you click on that reference and voila: these stats are from 2023! Not quite old, don't you think so? 

According to Russian sources, the Russian army in 2022 had the following number of military personnel:
- ground forces numbered about 800,000 people;
— approximately 100 thousand served in the aerospace forces;
- the fleet included about 150 thousand, that is, these three types of troops alone amounted to about 1,050,000 people.
In addition, the Russian Armed Forces also include the Strategic Missile Forces, Airborne Forces, and Special Operations Forces, which may also well take part in the war against Ukraine. The Russian National Guard and various PMCs are also fighting on the Ukrainian fronts. I have not yet found in open sources what the current number of ground forces in the Russian Federation is.

On September 25, 2022, a decree was signed to increase the number of military personnel to 2,039,758 “due to the tense geopolitical situation.”
https://pamyatpokoleniy.ru/news/tpost/4toaxkmhs1-chislennost-armii-rossii-na-2022

What is that website? It certainly doesn't look trustworthy... 

Putin said in December 2023 that there were 617,000 Russian military personnel in the “combat zone”—probably referring to all Russian military personnel deployed in the so-called zone. “special military operation” in the war of the Russian Federation against Ukraine, including the areas where Russian troops are based in border areas on Russian territory.
https://nv.ua/ukraine/events/skolko-rossiyskih-voysk-v-ukraine-i-na-granice-rf-i-o-chem-svidetelstvuyut-eti-dannye-novosti-ukrainy-50424861.html

That's not "Putin said", that's "Ukrainian propaganda said"! 

[CageMabok]

It is difficult to avoid war, especially if a country has abundant natural resources and the level of national defense is weak, other countries which have great power will definitely attack a country which has great natural resources. As is happening in various countries today and in history.

Apart from what you said, war will always exist as long as there are countries that are dissatisfied with the progress of other countries in the world. Because when war doesn't happen, of course it could be created so that weapons factories can operate in order to sell ammunition to those who need it even though they themselves know that the ending will not be good. But this is clearly not easy to avoid because there is a feeling of dissatisfaction and there is something that a country wants to control which in the end can lead to endless war.

[Moeda]

1. Increase in the national GDP is least likely to be caused by a war.
2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?

Of course there is truth in what you describe. But an increase in national GDP is possible in some cases, especially if the country obtains arms purchase contracts from other countries. The most felt negative impact is for countries involved in war, while other countries actually benefit from the war.
Oil is a very important resource in the modern era, not only during times of conflict. Because all transportation uses oil, and we can calculate how many transportation there are currently in the world. However, war is a factor in fluctuations in world oil prices.

[Ozero]

The Russian army has been continuously storming the Kharkov region from Volchansk since May 10. The invaders entered the border Volchansk in the first days, having previously destroyed the minefields with the help of artillery and corrective bombs. They entered, but never progressed further.

This is another lie, my little lying friend: Vovchansk is 10km away from the border. Between Vovchansk and the border there are many villages which had to be captured en route to Vovchansk, which also took some time. So, no, Russia hasn't been holding Vovchansk under siege since May 10.  

According to local authorities, the city of Volchansk is located only 4 km from the border with the Russian Federation. While on the map this distance can vary from 6 to 10 km depending on the direction.
Sources:
https://lenta.ru/news/2024/05/13/volchansk/

https://www.rbc.ua/ukr/news/vovchansk-mapi-boyovih-diy-shcho-vidbuvaetsya-1715594128.html

https://uatv.ua/v-5-km-ot-granitsy-s-rossiej-pod-postoyannymi-obstrelami-i-bez-gaza-kak-vyzhivayut-okolo-4000-chelovek-ostayushhihsya-v-volchanske- video/

Since the entire border territory of the Kharkov region was under constant fire from Russian troops, there was practically no first line of defense there.
According to the statement of the commander of the Ukrainian reconnaissance company fighting in this direction, Denis Yaroslavsky, the first line of defense near Volchansk allegedly “simply did not exist” and the Russians “went on foot” to this town without any resistance.
The second or third line of defense was 10-15-20 and even 30 km away from the border or front line, however, they were also under fire from the invaders, who destroyed construction equipment and the civilian builders themselves. Therefore, more than 30 types of various civil construction equipment were destroyed.
https://www.bbc.com/russian/articles/c97z71jwe7wo

It is worth recognizing that despite the statements of the Ukrainian authorities, this territory was not prepared for defense, which explains the relatively quick takeover of this border theory by the Russians. However, after almost a month of Russian offensive, the occupiers cannot advance further than Volchansk. Moreover, a significant part of this town is still not only controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but also the occupiers are being pushed out of some of its neighborhoods. In general, the Russian offensive in the Kharkov region has been stopped, their idea has completely failed.
After the ban on the Ukrainian Armed Forces striking military targets on Russian territory with Western weapons was lifted, columns of Russian equipment are destroyed even before they cross the Ukrainian border.
https://www.dialog.ua/war/296333_1717860566