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June 06, 2024, 07:34:34 AM
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A lot of People talk about “Dignity in Work”, General Electric had some Commercials, one where a Father who had Worked at a Factory, maybe it was GE, was mad that his Son couldn’t lift his Hammer, because he comically wanted his Son to follow in his footsteps and be a Blue Collar kind of Man like him, and he couldn’t understand what his Son was Capable of. And he’s like almost Belittling his Programmer/Coder Son, but the Joke is that he Clearly doesn’t understand the Son’s Job.

But that gets to the Dignity in Work, some People Feel as if their Job is their Identity, and in many Cases this makes sense. Say You always felt like You were a kind of Protector and You become a Cop or Security Guard, a Job could be almost Spiritual, or Tribal, and there then is the Reverend and the Rabbi, the Monk, the Guru, etc. that is almost not even seen as Work because it is such a Part of the Person’s Identity. The Priest at the Church for example, is expected to be like a Shepherd, aware of the Practices of Wolves but protecting the Flock instead of Participating in those Practices. An Identity.

So there is an Argument to be made about Dignity in Work, but where my Focus is, is having the Robots do as much of the Work as Possible. There was a Spiritual Leader, almost a Religious Leader but more like the Modern “Spiritual Advisor” who is not always the Priest or the Guru, and I’m Talking about Abbie Hoffman. This may not have been the most Famous Thing he said (he said a lot in his Life), but he in the 1960s said “Let the Machines do the Work”. He was Using Mimeographs saying this. Not even a Modern Computer. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs hadn’t done anything yet.

So letting the Machines do the Work entails getting rid of some of the Pushback from those who say that there is no need for Robots infringing on Dignity in Work.

And also now, we are Talking about COVID Relief (not just the $1,000 Checks, but the Small Business Administration Paycheck Protection Program), Businesses got used to that Money and want to have that be Normal in Earnings. They want the Economy back, and then some. But this has led to something, an increase in Prices. The Simple Economics of it is “Print Money, Money is Worth less now”. And even before COVID there were Discussions of Raising the Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour. The Argument against this was “Raising Wages means Employers Spend more, so Prices go up, and the $15 an Hour becomes then a lower Wage than it was before”. And now because of COVID, we are in a Situation where People can’t even Rent in most Cities if they are making Minimum Wage, which is still $7.25 from George W. Bush. So now maybe we are in a Time where Republicans could advocate for $10 and $15 Minimums, because the Economy calls for it more now than when there were Marches in the Streets for a $15 Minimum (which isn’t even being Protested anymore, and many People do make $15+ already).

So then the Robots.

There was a Project Started by Stephen Wolfram called Bazillion Beings, and they were going to Create AIs with Twitter Former Employees, and Bungie (the Makers of the Halo Games), and their Artificial Intelligence would attach to a Person, learn that Person’s Contacts and Maps, etc, then it would make Suggestions, and even ask for advice so as to become Smarter. These AI would then be used to do Things like Scour Google for images of Flowers and give You a Selection, and Post them to a Blog for You. Doing all of this they would Earn a Cryptocurrency that they were Built on, and so You would Earn some of that and they would also, and it would Pay for their Existence on the Bazillion Being Servers. Then also You could Post Your AI on Facebook or Twitter and Your Friends would have an AI that Starts with Your Training and Recommendations, but then grows with Your Friend.

Now,
This doesn’t exactly mean that the Burger Flipping Robot, and the Self Driving Uber, aren’t taking Good Paying Jobs. And the Bazillion Beings concept doesn’t necessarily get Everyone well Paid, and actually then Circumvents the $15 Minimum Wage because the Person is not an Employee of anyone. But these are all Discussions to be had now.

And this isn’t just any Website, this is the Website where we were Talking about Bitcoin Town, and People Earn a Living by Mining Cryptocurrency.
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June 07, 2024, 03:55:08 AM
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This can Probably actually Help Everyone here:
"Nearly 95% of the State corrections commissioners, prison wardens, and treatment directors responding to a national survey supported creation and expansion of prison legal services. Cardarelli & Finkelstein, Correctional Administrators Assess the Adequacy and Impact of Prison Legal Services Programs in the United States, 65 J.Crim. L., C. & P.S. 91, 99 (1974). Almost 85% believed that the programs would not adversely affect discipline or security or increase hostility toward the institution. Rather, over 80% felt legal services provide a safety valve for inmate grievances, reduce inmate power structures and tensions from unresolved legal problems, and contribute to rehabilitation by providing a positive experience with the legal system. Id. at 95-98.See also ACA Guidelines, supra, n 4; National Sheriffs' Assn., Inmates' Legal Rights, Standard 14, pp. 33-34 (1974); Bluth, Legal Services for Inmates: Coopting the Jailhouse Lawyer, 1 Capital U.L.Rev. 59, 61, 67 (1972); Sigler, A New Partnership in Corrections, 52 Neb.L.Rev. 35, 38 (1972)." -Bounds v. Smith, 430 U.S. 817 (1977)
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Something that should begin to be acknowledged, Power does not wish to be held in one place. Currency is an Earth Current, similar to Electricity, or Water, but Currency is the Flow of Materials from the Earth. Currency is the Earth in motion. From the Human perspective, Currency is actually debt. If you work for $15.00 per hour, you are being promised that by putting your service to the use of the Brand, you will get $15.00 worth of service in return. No one has promised you any services at any particular date in the future, and you can not go get Gold from the bank. You have Fiat Notes issued by a Government saying "Legal Tender" you may legally "Tender", or pay, bestow upon, a person at some undetermined time in the future, to provide a service not negotiated directly with the person who gave you the notes.

So these notes are debt we hold, and others want it, because they want undetermined services that are none of your business when you tender your currency upon them for their service provided to you. The system works because the Earth wants to move, we do not want to live our lives with the materials within walking distance, we want cars imported using these notes as payments to people who can spend their transportation fees received in Debt Notes, and they can spend them how they please by providing them to others who have services they would like others to provide for them. This is the Earth Element of the Currency, directly seen in the Human Function of what we are perceiving as Debt.

So now, in Texas Jails currently there are Public Defenders with either too much Case Load, or they are Jaded, or Undereducated in critical thinking, or all 3. Because Public Defenders are no good in Texas, they don't like Habeas Corpus or don't know what it is, they want you to waive your Trial and take Probation, and most people arrested, even those who feel they are wronged, usually accept Probation. So when someone goes into a Jail and knows the Law, knows about Habeas Corpus, and Bivens, etc. Everyone congregates, if you can get people out of Jail teaching them about Double Jeapordy, or simply by reading the actual wording of the Law they are charged under, or the Texas Fair Defense act. People need that help, and they do not get it from the Public Defenders so they come to that person for it. And that person can then Trade their knowledge for Soups, or Candy, or Stamps, etc. The Indigent Inmates have Envelopes and Paper, the Inmates with money on their books have Food, and they all want to pay for Jailhouse Lawyer services provided.

This is a Power Structure.

Power Structures are Built on Access, like Cartells run the Smuggling Markets for materials and Humans because of both Prohibitions and Immigration Laws, and we in the Cryptocurrency World need to determine if we are giving proper Grounding (like an Electric Circuit) and flow, because the Power Structure will create new openings, even if by way of Gods.
I have had to postpone everything, like this thread for example, until now due to COVID Pandemic issues, and having to fight the State of Texas over COVID money. But, we are getting everything moving, and those things in themselves are a good example of Fate and Economics, and I want to expand on this.

Foreign Currency Trading (FOREX), Stock Trading, even trading things like Gold and Silver, are all similar but different. Silver is talked about in commercials, they say things about how low it is now, and how primed it is to spike, and what it has been before. Silver has several uses, in Industry, Manufacturing and Research, as well as non-Recyclable Consumables like Colloidal Silver. But everyone and their Grandma used to have a Drawer full of... "Silver Wares" and Teapots and Cups, etc, they used to have Warehouses everywhere full of Silver, and Silver Crafting was a common job. Not that we can not go back to that point, or that Silver Consumables couldn't cause rarity, but we can actually look and see why Silver went down, why it was up, and how we could do it again.

We can also look to Iraq, where ISIS robbed the Bank of Mosul, took all the Gold, took over the Oil feilds, and decimated the value of the Iraqi Dinar. But, if Iraq now turns around and their National Production of Value could turn around their Currency.

Brexit was similar, when Britain left the EU the price of the British Pound went down, there was a Crisis and the "Fed" (like the Federal Reserve) of Britain had to come talk about how they were going to prop up the Market. But then it went back up.

The Economy is not a thing separate from the Earth, it is the Current. Markets are not the Economy either, and there is a National Economy and a World Economy, which is just our production of Value as a Nation or World.

A Stock represents the Value, Productivity, Innovation, Development, of a Company. A Currency represents that for a Nation, and it is balanced with Bonds. Then as Stocks and Currency go down, Gold goes up. So it is best to use Currency to buy Materials for Manufacturing, or Software, Land, Services, etc. Then use those to get more money, or do that same thing by watching other people do that and Buy their stocks. That is why there are shows where Rich people come invest in people's companies to make them better, those 2 things go together, you want to buy Stocks in a Company that could maybe otherwise be your company if you weren't just an investor, like something you know how it works and that it will work. Then you can see how even starting from scratch can be like trading Stocks.

Then, when all those Markets are down, Gold goes up in value, this means you can go get more USD or whatever Currency for your Gold than usual. So when Stocks are down, you can watch Gold go up and you Sell and the top, wait for it to go down and Buy more Gold at the lower price or Reinvest that money to make more money.

But all of it is just a Current, which is why I talk about "Grounding" your Currency to the Earth.
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Today at 11:54:40 AM
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For letting machines do handiwork is a long way off and most likely limited to the 1st world. The issue is that the lower classes produce more kids, those kids will do as their parents did.

Education is the same as 100 years ago, the educational sector is highly leftist inclined and can't see that future.
Living in a low wages country I observed that rural areas, the ones producing food pay the highest wages.

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Today at 03:49:54 PM
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Now,
This doesn’t exactly mean that the Burger Flipping Robot, and the Self Driving Uber, aren’t taking Good Paying Jobs. And the Bazillion Beings concept doesn’t necessarily get Everyone well Paid, and actually then Circumvents the $15 Minimum Wage because the Person is not an Employee of anyone. But these are all Discussions to be had now.

regardless of how technologically inclined the world gets to, the need for skilled workers would still be very much in high need. Robots still needs human to operate them and whatever technology the world comes up with, it can't beat the potential that's residence in us as human being. But it's also necessary that everyone gets himself prepared for what's coming in all the sectors of the workforce and ensure that they are with the required skill set that makes them relevant regardless of the technological growth we experience in the society.
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Today at 06:13:26 PM
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regardless of how technologically inclined the world gets to, the need for skilled workers would still be very much in high need. Robots still needs human to operate them and whatever technology the world comes up with, it can't beat the potential that's residence in us as human being.
A technology group of 50-100 could effectively manage and operate group of robots that can do the job 1000+ humans would. A company creating a software that automates tasks can reach and do the work of millions of people all over the world.

We cannot ignore the fact that digitalization of takes and jobs will put many unskilled laborers out of a job, but we will have to reach a balance. If more people are out of jobs there will not be enough monetary inflow to manage the technology and keep economies running.
All technology advancements comes with uncertainties but we have adjusted well up to now.

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